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* OT Facebook orderkeithr0
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From: user@account.invalid (keithr0)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: OT Facebook order
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 14:37:55 +1000
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 by: keithr0 - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 04:37 UTC

I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the package

6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.

And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the senders
address on the package was

Ao Rui Zhen
1B next door to No.1
Great China Middle Section
Fifty Metres Avenue
Shantwei City
Guangdong Province
China.

The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods journey
from Alaska?

Re: OT Facebook order

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From: petzlx@gmail.com (Petzl)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: OT Facebook order
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 15:56:05 +1100
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 by: Petzl - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 04:56 UTC

On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 14:37:55 +1000, keithr0 <user@account.invalid>
wrote:
>
> pens (for marking out on metal)
>
Possibly resold from somwhere cheaper?
<https://www.temu.com/search_result.html?search_key=pens%20for%20marking%20out%20on%20metal&search_method=user&refer_page_el_sn=200010&srch_enter_source=top_search_entrance_10032&_x_sessn_id=pdwhtxjckj&refer_page_name=goods&refer_page_id=10032_1708923168349_hz7vg2er0e&refer_page_sn=10032>
https://t.ly/Q01ek
--
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Re: OT Facebook order

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From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: OT Facebook order
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:57:22 +1100
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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 05:57 UTC

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote

> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
> package

> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.

> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the senders
> address on the package was

> Ao Rui Zhen
> 1B next door to No.1
> Great China Middle Section
> Fifty Metres Avenue
> Shantwei City
> Guangdong Province
> China.

> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods journey
> from Alaska?

Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.

More likely he had discovered that that works out
cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.

Re: OT Facebook order

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From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
Newsgroups: aus.computers,aus.aviation
Subject: Re: OT Facebook order
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 17:06:00 +1100
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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 06:06 UTC

On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:57:22 +1100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>
>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>> package
>
>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>
>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the senders
>> address on the package was
>
>> Ao Rui Zhen
>> 1B next door to No.1
>> Great China Middle Section
>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>> Shantwei City
>> Guangdong Province
>> China.
>
>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods journey
>> from Alaska?
>
> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>
> More likely he had discovered that that works out
> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.

Interesting that Alaska Airlines has a major
hub in Achorage where they do quite a bit
of very heavy maintenance on real antiques
like C47s and Electras which they still use.
Presumably they use the specialised pens that
you may have ordered for the same sort or work.

Re: OT Facebook order

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Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: OT Facebook order
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:07:49 +1000
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 by: keithr0 - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 06:07 UTC

On 26/02/2024 3:57 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>
>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>> package
>
>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>
>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the senders
>> address on the package was
>
>> Ao Rui Zhen
>> 1B next door to No.1
>> Great China Middle Section
>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>> Shantwei City
>> Guangdong Province
>> China.
>
>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>> journey from Alaska?
>
> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>
> More likely he had discovered that that works out
> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.

There is no fraud because I got the goods and they seem to be as
advertised. I just can't understand the charade of all those bullshit
messages.

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From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: OT Facebook order
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 19:29:43 +1100
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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 08:29 UTC

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote

>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>>> package

>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.

>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what?Well the senders
>>> address on the package was

>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>> Great China Middle Section
>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>> Shantwei City
>>> Guangdong Province
>>> China.

>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>> journey from Alaska?

>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.

>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.

> There is no fraud because I got the goodsand they seem to be as
> advertised.

I meant fraud in the sense of misrepresenting where the pens were shipped
from.

> I just can't understand the charade of all those bullshit messages.

It is very far from clear that there is any charade.

They may well have be shipped from Anchorage.

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 by: keithr0 - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:38 UTC

On 26/02/2024 6:29 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>
>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>>>> package
>
>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>
>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what?Well the senders
>>>> address on the package was
>
>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>> Shantwei City
>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>> China.
>
>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>> journey from Alaska?
>
>>>  Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>
>>>  More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>
>> There is no fraud because I got the goodsand they seem to be as
>> advertised.
>
> I meant fraud in the sense of misrepresenting where the pens were
> shipped from.
>
>> I just can't understand the charade of all those bullshit  messages.
>
> It is very far from clear that there is any charade.
>
> They may well have be shipped from Anchorage.

Via China?

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From: dwalford@westpine.com.au (Daryl)
Newsgroups: aus.computers,aus.aviation
Subject: Re: OT Facebook order
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:49:08 +1100
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 by: Daryl - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 10:49 UTC

On 26/2/2024 5:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:57:22 +1100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>
>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>>> package
>>
>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>
>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the senders
>>> address on the package was
>>
>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>> Great China Middle Section
>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>> Shantwei City
>>> Guangdong Province
>>> China.
>>
>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>> journey from Alaska?
>>
>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>
>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>
> Interesting that Alaska Airlines has a major
> hub in Achorage where they do quite a bit
> of very heavy maintenance on real antiques
> like C47s and Electras which they still use.
> Presumably they use the specialised pens that
> you may have ordered for the same sort or work.

I know that Buffalo Airways in Canada still use C47's and Electra's and
also that at one time Alaska used those aircraft but I can't find
anything saying that Alaska still flys those old planes?

--
Daryl

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 by: keithr0 - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 11:34 UTC

On 26/02/2024 8:49 pm, Daryl wrote:
> On 26/2/2024 5:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:57:22 +1100, Rod Speed
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>
>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>>>> package
>>>
>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>>
>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the senders
>>>> address on the package was
>>>
>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>> Shantwei City
>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>> China.
>>>
>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>> journey from Alaska?
>>>
>>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>>
>>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>>
>> Interesting that Alaska Airlines has a major
>> hub in Achorage where they do quite a bit
>> of very heavy maintenance on real antiques
>> like C47s and Electras which they still use.
>> Presumably they use the specialised pens that
>> you may have ordered for the same sort or work.
>
>
> I know that Buffalo Airways in Canada still use C47's and Electra's and
> also that at one time Alaska used those aircraft but I can't find
> anything saying that Alaska still flys those old planes?

If you're flying Alaskan on one of their 737 Max-9s, try and avoid seat
26K, if you can't avoid it check for bolts rolling around on the floor :)

>

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 by: Rod Speed - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 18:59 UTC

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>
>>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>>>>> package
>>
>>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United
>>>>> States.
>>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>
>>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what?Well the senders
>>>>> address on the package was
>>
>>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>>> Shantwei City
>>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>>> China.
>>
>>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>>> journey from Alaska?
>>
>>>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>
>>>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>>
>>> There is no fraud because I got the goodsand they seem to be as
>>> advertised.
>> I meant fraud in the sense of misrepresenting where the pens were
>> shipped from.
>>
>>> I just can't understand the charade of all those bullshit messages.

>> It is very far from clear that there is any charade.
>> They may well have be shipped from Anchorage.

> Via China?

Nope. No evidence that they came via China.

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 by: Daryl - Mon, 26 Feb 2024 22:36 UTC

On 26/2/2024 10:34 pm, keithr0 wrote:
> On 26/02/2024 8:49 pm, Daryl wrote:
>> On 26/2/2024 5:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:57:22 +1100, Rod Speed
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>>>>> package
>>>>
>>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
>>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>>>
>>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the
>>>>> senders address on the package was
>>>>
>>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>>> Shantwei City
>>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>>> China.
>>>>
>>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>>> journey from Alaska?
>>>>
>>>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>>>
>>>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>>>
>>> Interesting that Alaska Airlines has a major
>>> hub in Achorage where they do quite a bit
>>> of very heavy maintenance on real antiques
>>> like C47s and Electras which they still use.
>>> Presumably they use the specialised pens that
>>> you may have ordered for the same sort or work.
>>
>>
>> I know that Buffalo Airways in Canada still use C47's and Electra's
>> and also that at one time Alaska used those aircraft but I can't find
>> anything saying that Alaska still flys those old planes?
>
> If you're flying Alaskan on one of their 737 Max-9s, try and avoid seat
> 26K, if you can't avoid it check for bolts rolling around on the floor :)
>
>>
>
LOL, also make sure your seatbelt is always on and tight:-)
--
Daryl

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 04:37 UTC

On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:49:08 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:

> On 26/2/2024 5:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:57:22 +1100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>
>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>>>> package
>>>
>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>>
>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the senders
>>>> address on the package was
>>>
>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>> Shantwei City
>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>> China.
>>>
>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>> journey from Alaska?
>>>
>>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>>
>>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>> Interesting that Alaska Airlines has a major
>> hub in Achorage where they do quite a bit
>> of very heavy maintenance on real antiques
>> like C47s and Electras which they still use.
>> Presumably they use the specialised pens that
>> you may have ordered for the same sort or work.

> I know that Buffalo Airways in Canada still use C47's and Electra's and
> also that at one time Alaska used those aircraft but I can't find
> anything saying that Alaska still flys those old planes?

Yeah, I managed to mangle that.

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 by: keithr0 - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 06:50 UTC

On 27/02/2024 4:59 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of
>>>>>> the package
>>>
>>>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United
>>>>>> States.
>>>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>>>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>>
>>>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what?Well the
>>>>>> senders  address on the package was
>>>
>>>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>>>> Shantwei City
>>>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>>>> China.
>>>
>>>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>>>> journey from Alaska?
>>>
>>>>>  Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>>
>>>>>  More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>>>
>>>> There is no fraud because I got the goodsand they seem to be as
>>>> advertised.
>>>  I meant fraud in the sense of misrepresenting where the pens were
>>> shipped from.
>>>
>>>> I just can't understand the charade of all those bullshit  messages.
>
>>>  It is very far from clear that there is any charade.
>>>  They may well have be shipped from Anchorage.
>
>> Via China?
>
> Nope. No evidence that they came via China.

Are you trolling or just plain stupid? A final e-mail came today

Detail status of the logistics:【AU】已妥投,2024-02-26 10:10:00.

The Chinese characters translate as "Delivered". The package never went
anywhere near Alaska, or in deed the USA, it came straight from China.

When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter, I got what I ordered, but
the e-mail charade is just weird.

End of story.

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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 08:15 UTC

> Rod Speed wrote
>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of
>>>>>>> the package
>>>>
>>>>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United
>>>>>>> States.
>>>>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of
>>>>>>> Australia.
>>>>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>>>
>>>>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what?Well the
>>>>>>> senders address on the package was
>>>>
>>>>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>>>>> Shantwei City
>>>>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>>>>> China.
>>>>
>>>>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>>>>> journey from Alaska?
>>>>
>>>>>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>>>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>>>
>>>>>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>>>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>>>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>>>>
>>>>> There is no fraud because I got the goodsand they seem to be as
>>>>> advertised.
>>>> I meant fraud in the sense of misrepresenting where the pens were
>>>> shipped from.
>>>>
>>>>> I just can't understand the charade of all those bullshit messages.
>>
>>>> It is very far from clear that there is any charade.
>>>> They may well have be shipped from Anchorage.
>>
>>> Via China?

>> Nope. No evidence that they came via China.

<reams of pomshit flushed where it belongs>

> A final e-mail came today

> Detail status of the logistics:【AU】已妥投,2024-02-26 10:10:00.

> The Chinese characters translate as "Delivered".

Irrelevant to where the package actually went.

> The package never went anywhere near Alaska,or in deed the USA, it came
> straight from China.

You don't know that, and can't explain why
the seller claimed it came from Achorage.

> When it comes down to it, it doesn't matter, I gotwhat I ordered, but
> the e-mail charade is just weird.

You don't know that is was a charage.

> End of story.

Nope, dope.

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 by: Daryl - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 09:49 UTC

On 27/2/2024 3:37 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:49:08 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 26/2/2024 5:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:57:22 +1100, Rod Speed
>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>>>>> package
>>>>
>>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United States.
>>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of Australia.
>>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>>>
>>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the
>>>>> senders address on the package was
>>>>
>>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>>> Shantwei City
>>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>>> China.
>>>>
>>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>>> journey from Alaska?
>>>>
>>>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>>>
>>>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>>>  Interesting that Alaska Airlines has a major
>>> hub in Achorage where they do quite a bit
>>> of very heavy maintenance on real antiques
>>> like C47s and Electras which they still use.
>>> Presumably they use the specialised pens that
>>> you may have ordered for the same sort or work.
>
>> I know that Buffalo Airways in Canada still use C47's and Electra's
>> and also that at one time Alaska used those aircraft but I can't find
>> anything saying that Alaska still flys those old planes?
>
> Yeah, I managed to mangle that.

Looks like Buffalo Airways has now entered the jet age, they bought one
of those new fangled 737-300's:-)

--
Daryl

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 by: Petzl - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:11 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 20:49:12 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
wrote:

>>> I know that Buffalo Airways in Canada still use C47's and Electra's
>>> and also that at one time Alaska used those aircraft but I can't find
>>> anything saying that Alaska still flys those old planes?
>>
>> Yeah, I managed to mangle that.
>
>Looks like Buffalo Airways has now entered the jet age, they bought one
>of those new fangled 737-300's:-)
>
Here's the movie
https://youtu.be/az4ntVjE0h0?si=b1NM4ytq1MwDoXPV
DELIVERY FLIGHT! Buffalo Airways 737-300 Landing and Up Close at
Edmonton Airport (4K)
--
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Great lawyers know the judge

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High Court reveals every current judge is a
member of Qantas’ ‘most exclusive club in Australia’
The High Court has exposed secret members of Qantas’
exclusive Chairman’s Lounge amid a landmark case over
the sacking of 1700 workers.

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From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
Newsgroups: aus.computers,aus.aviation
Subject: Re: OT Facebook order
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 08:52:08 +1100
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 by: Rod Speed - Tue, 27 Feb 2024 21:52 UTC

On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 20:49:12 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:

> On 27/2/2024 3:37 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:49:08 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 26/2/2024 5:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:57:22 +1100, Rod Speed
>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of the
>>>>>> package
>>>>>
>>>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United
>>>>>> States.
>>>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of
>>>>>> Australia.
>>>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the
>>>>>> senders address on the package was
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>>>> Shantwei City
>>>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>>>> China.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>>>> journey from Alaska?
>>>>>
>>>>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>>>>
>>>>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>>>> Interesting that Alaska Airlines has a major
>>>> hub in Achorage where they do quite a bit
>>>> of very heavy maintenance on real antiques
>>>> like C47s and Electras which they still use.
>>>> Presumably they use the specialised pens that
>>>> you may have ordered for the same sort or work.
>>
>>> I know that Buffalo Airways in Canada still use C47's and Electra's
>>> and also that at one time Alaska used those aircraft but I can't find
>>> anything saying that Alaska still flys those old planes?

>> Yeah, I managed to mangle that.

> Looks like Buffalo Airways has now entered the jet age,they bought one
> of those new fangled 737-300's:-)

Likely when they were going very cheap indeed.

Bit surprising in some ways given how low to the ground the engines are.

Likely to be 'interesting' for the engine if they
come off the cleared runway into a snow drift.

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From: dwalford@westpine.com.au (Daryl)
Newsgroups: aus.computers,aus.aviation
Subject: Re: OT Facebook order
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 by: Daryl - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 03:33 UTC

On 28/2/2024 8:52 am, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2024 20:49:12 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 27/2/2024 3:37 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 21:49:08 +1100, Daryl <dwalford@westpine.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26/2/2024 5:06 pm, Rod Speed wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2024 16:57:22 +1100, Rod Speed
>>>>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I bought some specialised pens (for marking out on metal) from a
>>>>>>> Facebook ad. The vendor sent regular updates on the progress of
>>>>>>> the package
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 6/2: Anchorage,99695,United States,The shipment has been processed
>>>>>>> 7/2: The shipment has left the sorting center.
>>>>>>> 9/2: The shipment is in transit in Madison,53711,United States
>>>>>>> 12/2: The shipment arrived at the customs of United States.
>>>>>>> 15/2: The shipment is being inspected at the customs of United
>>>>>>> States.
>>>>>>> 18/2: The shipment has been shipped to Australia.
>>>>>>> 23/2: The shipment is declared at the customs clearance of
>>>>>>> Australia.
>>>>>>> 25/2: Arrived Shipping Partner Facility in the Australia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the goods arrived as advertised today. So what? Well the
>>>>>>> senders address on the package was
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ao Rui Zhen
>>>>>>> 1B next door to No.1
>>>>>>> Great China Middle Section
>>>>>>> Fifty Metres Avenue
>>>>>>> Shantwei City
>>>>>>> Guangdong Province
>>>>>>> China.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The transaction was legit, so why the pantomime about the goods
>>>>>>> journey from Alaska?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unlikely there is any deliberate fraid involved
>>>>>> given that it is pretty odd coming from Alaska.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More likely he had discovered that that works out
>>>>>> cheaper for the majority of his sales to americans
>>>>>> that shipping individual orders from Shantwei City.
>>>>>  Interesting that Alaska Airlines has a major
>>>>> hub in Achorage where they do quite a bit
>>>>> of very heavy maintenance on real antiques
>>>>> like C47s and Electras which they still use.
>>>>> Presumably they use the specialised pens that
>>>>> you may have ordered for the same sort or work.
>>>
>>>> I know that Buffalo Airways in Canada still use C47's and Electra's
>>>> and also that at one time Alaska used those aircraft but I can't
>>>> find anything saying that Alaska still flys those old planes?
>
>>>  Yeah, I managed to mangle that.
>
>> Looks like Buffalo Airways has now entered the jet age,they bought
>> one  of those new fangled 737-300's:-)
>
> Likely when they were going very cheap indeed.

Very likely but they did spend a lot of money getting it up to spec.
>
> Bit surprising in some ways given how low to the ground the engines are.
>
> Likely to be 'interesting' for the engine  if they
> come off the cleared runway into a snow drift.

That wouldn't be fun, its main use is between Edmonton and Yellowknife
shuttling freight so between 2 decent size airports.
AFAIK the 737 200's can operate into unsealed runways if fitted with a
"gravel kit", don't know if the 300's can do that, possibly not with
bigger engines being closer to the ground.

--
Daryl

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