"Dave W" <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gcnjni9t1l1hc9h6t1kf5bd4not233i2ad@4ax.com...
> When you stretched a 4:3 picture to 16:9 did circles become ovals? Or
> did the picture grow in height, cropping top and bottom?

I know the difference between "stretch 4:3 -> 16:9" and "zoom" which keeps
the same aspect ratio, fills the LHS/RHS and therefore crops top and bottom.

Quite why "zoom" is even offered is a mystery.

On 14/12/2023 08:06 pm, NY wrote:

> "Dave W" <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

>> When you stretched a 4:3 picture to 16:9 did circles become ovals? Or
>> did the picture grow in height, cropping top and bottom?
>
> I know the difference between "stretch 4:3 -> 16:9" and "zoom" which
> keeps the same aspect ratio, fills the LHS/RHS and therefore crops top
> and bottom.
>
> Quite why "zoom" is even offered is a mystery.

The Bravia set in our living room doesn't offer it (the previous one did).

It has five aspect settings, only two of which are usable, and they are
"Normal" (4:3) and "Full" (16:9).

The others don't make any signal look good and that includes one called
"Subtitles", whose purpose is far from clear.

On 14/12/2023 20:06, NY wrote:
> "Dave W" <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:gcnjni9t1l1hc9h6t1kf5bd4not233i2ad@4ax.com...
>> When you stretched a 4:3 picture to 16:9 did circles become ovals? Or
>> did the picture grow in height, cropping top and bottom?
>
> I know the difference between "stretch 4:3 -> 16:9" and "zoom" which
> keeps the same aspect ratio, fills the LHS/RHS and therefore crops top
> and bottom.
>
> Quite why "zoom" is even offered is a mystery.

for people that don't like the black bars at the top and bottom of the
screen when a film in wide screen cinema format is broadcast ????

--
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On 15/12/2023 05:51, alan_m wrote:
> On 14/12/2023 20:06, NY wrote:
>> "Dave W" <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:gcnjni9t1l1hc9h6t1kf5bd4not233i2ad@4ax.com...
>>> When you stretched a 4:3 picture to 16:9 did circles become ovals? Or
>>> did the picture grow in height, cropping top and bottom?
>>
>> I know the difference between "stretch 4:3 -> 16:9" and "zoom" which
>> keeps the same aspect ratio, fills the LHS/RHS and therefore crops top
>> and bottom.
>>
>> Quite why "zoom" is even offered is a mystery.
>
> for people that don't like the black bars at the top and bottom of the
> screen when a film in wide screen cinema format is broadcast ????
>
>
That's me! Fair enough if it's a film made originally for the cimema.
But, increasingly, a lot of made-for-TV drama is now being made in
aspect ratios of 18 or even 20 to 9, resulting in very wide black
stripes at the top and bottom of the screen.

Why is this done?

On 15/12/2023 05:51, alan_m wrote:
> for people that don't like the black bars at the top and bottom of the
> screen when a film in wide screen cinema format is broadcast ????
>

Or for the people who have a lot of money for a very wide screen TV or
home cinema?

On Fri, 15 Dec 2023 05:51:33 +0000
alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On 14/12/2023 20:06, NY wrote:
> > "Dave W" <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:gcnjni9t1l1hc9h6t1kf5bd4not233i2ad@4ax.com...
> >> When you stretched a 4:3 picture to 16:9 did circles become ovals?
> >> Or did the picture grow in height, cropping top and bottom?
> >
> > I know the difference between "stretch 4:3 -> 16:9" and "zoom"
> > which keeps the same aspect ratio, fills the LHS/RHS and therefore
> > crops top and bottom.
> >
> > Quite why "zoom" is even offered is a mystery.
>
> for people that don't like the black bars at the top and bottom of
> the screen when a film in wide screen cinema format is broadcast ????
>
>

Back in my student days, I became a film projectionist. The university's
Union building had two auditoriums, one with a 'normal'
sized screen, and the other with a Cinemascope wide-screen one. One
evening, we were scheduled to show a Cinemascope Western, but some
higher power commandeered the wide screen, and we were forced to show a
Cinemascope film on the much narrower screen. We took two album covers,
(this was in 1969) and put one on each side of the projector's window to
narrow the projected image, and showed the film like that. It was quite
comical watching the rear of hundreds of heads following a posse off to
the side of the screen, and then suddenly stopping as the posse ran
offscreen, but the soundtrack still played the ensuing gunfight.

The pinnacle event at that auditorium was not a film, but a lecture
given by Barnes Wallis. He received a standing ovation.

--
Davey.

On 14/12/2023 20:06, NY wrote:
> "Dave W" <davewi11@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:gcnjni9t1l1hc9h6t1kf5bd4not233i2ad@4ax.com...
>> When you stretched a 4:3 picture to 16:9 did circles become ovals? Or
>> did the picture grow in height, cropping top and bottom?
>
> I know the difference between "stretch 4:3 -> 16:9" and "zoom" which
> keeps the same aspect ratio, fills the LHS/RHS and therefore crops top
> and bottom.
>
> Quite why "zoom" is even offered is a mystery.

traditionally was used for non anamorphic widescreen material