On 08/05/2023 14:48, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On Mon, 8 May 2023 10:11:52 +0100
> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 08/05/2023 09:57, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>> On Mon, 8 May 2023 09:25:04 +0100
>>> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On 08/05/2023 09:01, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 17:16:45 +0100
>>>>> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> It does when your budget is nil in the first place.
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering the amount of other works they needed to do to convert to
>>>>> electrification such as raising track/lowering platforms etc it wouldn't
>>>>> have been a significant cost.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What work was that?
>>>
>>> Like I said, platform heights. Then the cost of installing substations and
>>> I imagine the coloured light signalling went in at the same time.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> AFAIR no work was done on station platforms, you had to step down into
>> the tube stock. As others have pointed out the electrical work was
>
> No you didn't, the platforms were all more or less level tube level.
>

Eventually
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On 08.05.23 19:59, Graeme Wall wrote:
> On 08/05/2023 12:55, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
>> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 08/05/2023 09:57, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 8 May 2023 09:25:04 +0100
>>>> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On 08/05/2023 09:01, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 6 May 2023 17:16:45 +0100
>>>>>> Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> It does when your budget is nil in the first place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Considering the amount of other works they needed to do to convert to
>>>>>> electrification such as raising track/lowering platforms etc it
>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>> have been a significant cost.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What work was that?
>>>>
>>>> Like I said, platform heights. Then the cost of installing
>>>> substations and
>>>> I imagine the coloured light signalling went in at the same time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> AFAIR no work was done on station platforms, you had to step down into
>>> the tube stock. As others have pointed out the electrical work was
>>> tagged onto the Weymouth electrifcation scheme. My mid 70s photos still
>>> show semaphore signals
>>
>> "Electrification involved raising the track level to allow the lower
>> floors
>> of the Tube stock to meet on the level with platforms."
>>
>> <https://www.kentrail.org.uk/shanklin_2.htm>
>>
>>
>
> I've photos at St John's Road and Brading that clearly shows the
> difference in levels in 1974. In 1991 at Pier Head there was a level
> entrance. So it looks like raising the track was more of an on-going
> process than a step-change (sorry!).

How high were the platforms pre-electrification? A lot of secondary
routes in steam days had quite low platforms by modern standards, and I
highly doubt much money was spent on the island before electrification
to keep it up to then-modern standards.

Robin

On Tue, 9 May 2023 08:54:53 +0200
Bob <bob@domain.com> wrote:
>On 08.05.23 19:59, Graeme Wall wrote:
>> I've photos at St John's Road and Brading that clearly shows the
>> difference in levels in 1974. In 1991 at Pier Head there was a level
>> entrance. So it looks like raising the track was more of an on-going
>> process than a step-change (sorry!).
>
>How high were the platforms pre-electrification? A lot of secondary
>routes in steam days had quite low platforms by modern standards, and I
>highly doubt much money was spent on the island before electrification
>to keep it up to then-modern standards.

Presumably the heights have been adjusted again for the D stock?

On 09/05/2023 09:26, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
> On Tue, 9 May 2023 08:54:53 +0200
> Bob <bob@domain.com> wrote:
>> On 08.05.23 19:59, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>> I've photos at St John's Road and Brading that clearly shows the
>>> difference in levels in 1974. In 1991 at Pier Head there was a level
>>> entrance. So it looks like raising the track was more of an on-going
>>> process than a step-change (sorry!).
>>
>> How high were the platforms pre-electrification? A lot of secondary
>> routes in steam days had quite low platforms by modern standards, and I
>> highly doubt much money was spent on the island before electrification
>> to keep it up to then-modern standards.
>
> Presumably the heights have been adjusted again for the D stock?
>

They appear to have been. The photos online show level boarding and
modern paving complete with textured warning strip and yellow line so
money has been spent.

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Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 09/05/2023 09:26, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 May 2023 08:54:53 +0200
>> Bob <bob@domain.com> wrote:
>>> On 08.05.23 19:59, Graeme Wall wrote:
>>>> I've photos at St John's Road and Brading that clearly shows the
>>>> difference in levels in 1974. In 1991 at Pier Head there was a level
>>>> entrance. So it looks like raising the track was more of an on-going
>>>> process than a step-change (sorry!).
>>>
>>> How high were the platforms pre-electrification? A lot of secondary
>>> routes in steam days had quite low platforms by modern standards, and I
>>> highly doubt much money was spent on the island before electrification
>>> to keep it up to then-modern standards.
>>
>> Presumably the heights have been adjusted again for the D stock?
>>
>
> They appear to have been. The photos online show level boarding and
> modern paving complete with textured warning strip and yellow line so
> money has been spent.
>

There were many photos on railway social media as the work was progressing,
for example
<https://www.londonreconnections.com/wp-content/uploads/Lake-Platform-raising-IoW-SWR.jpg>

Anna Noyd-Dryver

On Tue, 9 May 2023 10:33:28 -0000 (UTC)
Anna Noyd-Dryver <anna@noyd-dryver.com> wrote:
>Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 09/05/2023 09:26, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>> They appear to have been. The photos online show level boarding and
>> modern paving complete with textured warning strip and yellow line so
>> money has been spent.
>>
>
>There were many photos on railway social media as the work was progressing,
>for example
><https://www.londonreconnections.com/wp-content/uploads/Lake-Platform-raising-I
>oW-SWR.jpg>

Hmm. I wonder if putting beams on those already somewhat manky looking wooden
planks is a good long term solution. Surely it would be better to just rebuild
the whole thing while the chance is there?