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* Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fearsJava Jive
+* Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fearsAdrian Caspersz
|+- Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fearsWoody
|`- Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fearsnotya...@gmail.com
`* Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fearsMarco Moock
 `- Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fearsnotya...@gmail.com

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Subject: Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fears
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 by: Java Jive - Sat, 13 May 2023 11:21 UTC

Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fears
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65545865

"Campaigners have warned that Vodafone turning off its 3G network will
lead to people with older and more basic phones falling into "digital
poverty.""

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From: email@here.invalid (Adrian Caspersz)
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 by: Adrian Caspersz - Sat, 13 May 2023 14:39 UTC

On 13/05/2023 12:21, Java Jive wrote:
> Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fears
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65545865
>
> "Campaigners have warned that Vodafone turning off its 3G network will
> lead to people with older and more basic phones falling into "digital
> poverty.""

Anyone who falls into the camp "people with older and more basic phones"
is unlikely to be using internet access for various reasons - ability,
interest, cost and compatibility. They will be most likely be speaking
and texting.

Basic 4G compatible Dumb-Phones are cheap, but user re-education
seemingly is not.

EE Nokia 105 4G Mobile Phone - Black - Argos £13.50
https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9483051

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Adrian C

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From: harrogate3@ntlworld.com (Woody)
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 by: Woody - Sat, 13 May 2023 14:47 UTC

On Sat 13/05/2023 15:39, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> On 13/05/2023 12:21, Java Jive wrote:
>> Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fears
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65545865
>>
>> "Campaigners have warned that Vodafone turning off its 3G network will
>> lead to people with older and more basic phones falling into "digital
>> poverty.""
>
> Anyone who falls into the camp "people with older and more basic phones"
> is unlikely to be using internet access for various reasons - ability,
> interest, cost and compatibility. They will be most likely be speaking
> and texting.
>
> Basic 4G compatible Dumb-Phones are cheap, but user re-education
> seemingly is not.
>
> EE Nokia 105 4G Mobile Phone - Black - Argos £13.50
> https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9483051
>
>
>
BUT there are areas that 3G free zones......

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From: mo01@posteo.de (Marco Moock)
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 by: Marco Moock - Sat, 13 May 2023 16:19 UTC

Am 13.05.2023 um 12:21:24 Uhr schrieb Java Jive:

> "Campaigners have warned that Vodafone turning off its 3G network
> will lead to people with older and more basic phones falling into
> "digital poverty.""

Why don't they just use 2G?

I only know that some cellular network USB/PCCard/PCMCIA modems only
support 3G, but most phones should support 2G and 3G.

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 by: notya...@gmail.com - Sun, 14 May 2023 12:19 UTC

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 17:21:05 UTC+1, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 13.05.2023 um 12:21:24 Uhr schrieb Java Jive:
>
> > "Campaigners have warned that Vodafone turning off its 3G network
> > will lead to people with older and more basic phones falling into
> > "digital poverty.""
> Why don't they just use 2G?
>
> I only know that some cellular network USB/PCCard/PCMCIA modems only
> support 3G, but most phones should support 2G and 3G.

Indeed, and they dropped back to 2.5g (GPRS or EDGE) when no 3G coverage, except of course Three. I had a work Blackberry (8900) in 2008 and it did not have 3G, not much use for surfing, but email etc. worked just fine, albeit taking a minute or two to receive a large one.

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 by: notya...@gmail.com - Sun, 14 May 2023 12:38 UTC

On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 15:41:16 UTC+1, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> On 13/05/2023 12:21, Java Jive wrote:
> > Vodafone 3G turn-off sparks internet access fears
> > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65545865
> >
> > "Campaigners have warned that Vodafone turning off its 3G network will
> > lead to people with older and more basic phones falling into "digital
> > poverty.""
> Anyone who falls into the camp "people with older and more basic phones"
> is unlikely to be using internet access for various reasons - ability,
> interest, cost and compatibility. They will be most likely be speaking
> and texting.
>
> Basic 4G compatible Dumb-Phones are cheap, but user re-education
> seemingly is not.
>
> EE Nokia 105 4G Mobile Phone - Black - Argos £13.50
> https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9483051
>

It does not say that it is unlocked, and was locked but since April they are unlocked.

Apparently only uses 4G for calls: -

"Does this phone connect to the Internet

A
Hello ,

I can advise the following for the EE Nokia 105 4G Mobile Phone - Black:

Apologies, no, this just uses the 4G network to allow for Voice over LTE (VoLTE).

"

This phone https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9417687?clickPR=plp:1:172 is 2G, 3Gand 4G compatible, runs Android, and is a similar spec' to my Nokia N8 of a dozen years ago. £60

>
>
> --
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