This series on BBC TV about forensic science showed the software used
for tracking mobile phones.

DOCUMENTARY: Forensics: The Real CSI
On: BBC Two England HD
Date: Tuesday 23rd May 2023 (Already shown)
Time: 21:00 to 22:00 (1 hour long)

Gold Heist. Series 3, episode 2.
When an armed gang of jewellery thieves robs £300,000 worth of gold from
a Birmingham jewellery store, police need to use forensic evidence to
track down the gold. West Midland Police's Force Priorities Unit, a
specialist team tasked with completing the most high risk jobs and
manhunts, swarm the local area to find witnesses and CCTV that could
give them a lead.
(High Definition, Subtitles, Widescreen, New Episode, Series 3, Episode 2)

Directors: Nick Gardner, Jules Endersby
Starring: Siobhan Finneran, Denis McWilliams, Nigel Warbrick, Steve Barclay

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On 23/05/2023 22:11, MB wrote:
> This series on BBC TV about forensic science showed the software used
> for tracking mobile phones.
>
>
> DOCUMENTARY: Forensics: The Real CSI
> On: BBC Two England HD
> Date: Tuesday 23rd May 2023 (Already shown)
> Time: 21:00 to 22:00 (1 hour long)
>
> Gold Heist. Series 3, episode 2.
> When an armed gang of jewellery thieves robs £300,000 worth of gold from
> a Birmingham jewellery store, police need to use forensic evidence to
> track down the gold. West Midland Police's Force Priorities Unit, a
> specialist team tasked with completing the most high risk jobs and
> manhunts, swarm the local area to find witnesses and CCTV that could
> give them a lead.
> (High Definition, Subtitles, Widescreen, New Episode, Series 3, Episode 2)

I watched it last night. A very interesting programme.

(Spoiler) I had no idea that a car could have a sim, and linking a
mobile phone's location to that of the Range Rover's sim was an
important piece of evidence.

> Directors: Nick Gardner, Jules Endersby
> Starring: Siobhan Finneran, Denis McWilliams, Nigel Warbrick, Steve Barclay

Starring?? Siobhan Finneran narrated, Denis McWilliams was the programme
editor, etc.

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Jeff

On Wed, 24 May 2023 07:44:09 +0100
Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> (Spoiler) I had no idea that a car could have a sim, and linking a
> mobile phone's location to that of the Range Rover's sim was an
> important piece of evidence.

Yes, my car has a SIM built in. It allows the Emergency call system tow
operate even if I don't have my mobile turned on. It is also meant to
enable Software Updates overnight, but that didn't work when we tried
it. Nice idea, though.

--
Davey.

Jeff Layman wrote:

> I had no idea that a car could have a sim

My car can either use a bluetooth protocol (rSAP) to "share" my phone's
SIM, or can use an eSIM provided by the manufacturer.

On 24/05/2023 07:44, Jeff Layman wrote:
> (Spoiler) I had no idea that a car could have a sim, and linking a
> mobile phone's location to that of the Range Rover's sim was an
> important piece of evidence.

My VW connects to a network but there is nothing to say which one.

On Wednesday, 24 May 2023 at 08:14:56 UTC+1, Davey wrote:
> On Wed, 24 May 2023 07:44:09 +0100
> Jeff Layman <Je...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> > (Spoiler) I had no idea that a car could have a sim, and linking a
> > mobile phone's location to that of the Range Rover's sim was an
> > important piece of evidence.
> Yes, my car has a SIM built in. It allows the Emergency call system tow
> operate even if I don't have my mobile turned on. It is also meant to
> enable Software Updates overnight, but that didn't work when we tried
> it. Nice idea, though.
>
> --
> Davey.

My BMW does too, but I can't directly access it. Sends service reminders, recalls and traffic information (even though I think I need to have a subscription to get this). It is very slow and on 2G.

Later BMW's can allow data access via one's phone's Bluetooth.

From about a decade ago top end Audi's could have an optional SIM tray, which made the car into a Wi-Fi hot spot and increased the info on the display (like current weather etc.)

Mark Clayton wrote:

> Jeff Layman wrote:
>
>> I had no idea that a car could have a sim
>
> My BMW does too, but I can't directly access it. Sends service reminders, recalls and traffic information (even though I think I need to have a subscription to get this). It is very slow and on 2G.
>
> Later BMW's can allow data access via one's phone's Bluetooth.
>
> From about a decade ago top end Audi's could have an optional SIM tray, which made the car into a Wi-Fi hot spot and increased the info on the display (like current weather etc.)

Mine's an Audi, it came with 3 years of included 4G data, for satnav/map
updates, remote access (where did I leave my car, let me remotely check
how how much fuel it has, are the doors/windows/sunroof/bonnet open?)
mostly pretty useless gimmickery

Now the eSIM is still active (needs to be for e-Call I presume) but the
licence to use most of the features has expired, they would like
£SILLY/month to renew the licence, they can fuck off.

MB wrote:

> My VW connects to a network but there is nothing to say which one.

I think mine has some sort of pan-european roaming, from a MVNO similar
to Manx or Channel Isles providers ...

On Thursday, 25 May 2023 at 14:27:31 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
> MB wrote:
>
> > My VW connects to a network but there is nothing to say which one.
> I think mine has some sort of pan-european roaming, from a MVNO similar
> to Manx or Channel Isles providers ...

Liechtenstein.