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America yes but perhaps we should learn.

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From: lizandtony@orcon.net.nz (Tony)
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Subject: America yes but perhaps we should learn.
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by: Tony - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:10 UTC

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by: Rich80105 - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:52 UTC

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:10:31 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

>https://thegoodcitizen.live/p/evirtue-signaling?r=1ggdo
>EVs are no panacea, not that we really need one!

So you believe the medical face-mask is a display of low IQ. Tell that
to the doctors who continue to use them regularly - particularly for
operations or when seeing patients who may have Covid . . .

I don't see why anyone would think it a good idea to borrow to
purchase a car - clearly you associate with idiots

New Zealand does not use coal power very often, so that bit is
irrelevant to New Zealand.

What we should be concerned about however is the amount New Zealand
may have to pay if we do not meet emission reduction targets -
remember that international agreement that Paula Bennett signed us up
to all those years ago?

As the page says - "True Lies"

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by: Gordon - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 21:56 UTC

On 2024-03-10, Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
> https://thegoodcitizen.live/p/evirtue-signaling?r=1ggdo
> EVs are no panacea, not that we really need one!

The Clean Energy Transistion, 4 parts, on the substack, https://substack.com/@bushfoodforager
link are worth a read. (77min read total)

Good to see people are producing the "opposition" to the "new, and improved
ideas".

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by: Tony - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 23:33 UTC

Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:10:31 -0000 (UTC), Tony
><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>https://thegoodcitizen.live/p/evirtue-signaling?r=1ggdo
>>EVs are no panacea, not that we really need one!
>
>
Off topic garbage removed.
>
Abuse removed. Rich is an abusive fool.
>
>New Zealand does not use coal power very often, so that bit is
>irrelevant to New Zealand.
Wow so you read it!
>
>What we should be concerned about however is the amount New Zealand
>may have to pay if we do not meet emission reduction targets -
>remember that international agreement that Paula Bennett signed us up
>to all those years ago?
ANsweree os nothing and you know it.
>
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by: Tony - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 23:37 UTC

Tony <lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>Rich80105 <Rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:10:31 -0000 (UTC), Tony
>><lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>https://thegoodcitizen.live/p/evirtue-signaling?r=1ggdo
>>>EVs are no panacea, not that we really need one!
>>
>>
>Off topic garbage removed.
>>
>Abuse removed. Rich is an abusive fool.
>>
>>New Zealand does not use coal power very often, so that bit is
>>irrelevant to New Zealand.
>Wow so you read it!
>>
>>What we should be concerned about however is the amount New Zealand
>>may have to pay if we do not meet emission reduction targets -
>>remember that international agreement that Paula Bennett signed us up
>>to all those years ago?
>ANsweree os nothing and you know it.
Correction -
Answer is nothing and you know it. Such a silly thing for you to post.
>>
>ABuse removed.

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by: Crash - Mon, 11 Mar 2024 02:26 UTC

On Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:10:31 -0000 (UTC), Tony
<lizandtony@orcon.net.nz> wrote:

>https://thegoodcitizen.live/p/evirtue-signaling?r=1ggdo
>EVs are no panacea, not that we really need one!

I stopped reading when I got to "The electric vehicle will soon be
like the medical face maskanother public display of low IQ."

While there may be a few pertinent facts in the article anyone who
writes emotive claptrap like that gets the 'stop reading' downtick
from me.

I agree that EVs are not a panacea as was used to justify subsidies
here - but those subsidies (on purchase) are gone and (on RUCs) about
to go.

I chose to buy a used BEV for 2 reasons: it is the perfect short-trip
vehicle (does not suffer from startup running with no lubricating oil)
and is cheap to run (even with RUCs) and maintain (as long as the
motive battery lasts). It still requires regular maintenance - but
not to the drive-chain, only to braking, the wheel components and
battery chiller.

--
Crash McBash

Subject	Author
America yes but perhaps we should learn.	Tony
Re: America yes but perhaps we should learn.	Rich80105
Re: America yes but perhaps we should learn.	Tony
Re: America yes but perhaps we should learn.	Tony
Re: America yes but perhaps we should learn.	Gordon
Re: America yes but perhaps we should learn.	Crash