Hi all,

The above has been suggested to me as being a valid VFM s/h upgrade
given how old the Samsung Galaxy S8 is compared with the A52s?

Basically, as long as all things were roughly equal or better, then a
A52s could be what we are looking for?

Anyone here have / had an A52s and if so, what do / did you think of it
please?

Cheers, T i m

In message <knm74uFgo1jU2@mid.individual.net>
T i m <individual@spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The above has been suggested to me as being a valid VFM s/h upgrade given
> how old the Samsung Galaxy S8 is compared with the A52s?
>
> Basically, as long as all things were roughly equal or better, then a A52s
> could be what we are looking for?
>
> Anyone here have / had an A52s and if so, what do / did you think of it
> please?

I don't know what an A52s is specifically, but I've had an A52 for quite
a while now, and I'm very happy with it.

David

On 28/09/2023 22:13, David Higton wrote:
> In message <knm74uFgo1jU2@mid.individual.net>
> T i m <individual@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The above has been suggested to me as being a valid VFM s/h upgrade given
>> how old the Samsung Galaxy S8 is compared with the A52s?
>>
>> Basically, as long as all things were roughly equal or better, then a A52s
>> could be what we are looking for?
>>
>> Anyone here have / had an A52s and if so, what do / did you think of it
>> please?
>
> I don't know what an A52s is specifically,

I think it's pretty well the same as the A52 but with a slightly better
SoC (Qualcomm Snapdragon 778G 5G).

> but I've had an A52 for quite
> a while now, and I'm very happy with it.

Excellent, thanks David.

Googling about I think the only thing that we would miss with the
A52(/x) compared with the S8 is I don't think the A52's do Wireless
charging? I think you can get add-on charging coil kits but I think that
then blocks the USBc port. ;-(

I appreciate that Samsung have to separate their A and S model lines but
even my ancient SGS7 has wireless charging!?

I guess it might be a matter of looking to see how easy it might be to
remove the wireless charging pad and make use of the USBc port for
charging, say when on train (without having to also carry the wireless
charger etc).

Cheers, T i m

On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 21:48:35 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The above has been suggested to me as being a valid VFM s/h upgrade
> given how old the Samsung Galaxy S8 is compared with the A52s?
>
> Basically, as long as all things were roughly equal or better, then a
> A52s could be what we are looking for?
>
> Anyone here have / had an A52s and if so, what do / did you think of it
> please?
>
> Cheers, T i m

Had the S8 for five years before pre-ordering S23u and Px'ing it.

S8 - great phone, Android 9. On mine battery tired and earpiece weak. s/h ~£120. S9 better.
A52 has lower res' screen, no wireless charging (but fast wired), and not IP68. Cameras, storage and battery better. FM radio. Android 11 [upgradeable]
A52s adds 5G, loses FM radio
A54 adds Android 13, more RAM and £200 to new price.

Full comparison here: -
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12070&idPhone2=11039&idPhone3=8161

On 29/09/2023 13:25, notya...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, 28 September 2023 at 21:48:35 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The above has been suggested to me as being a valid VFM s/h upgrade
>> given how old the Samsung Galaxy S8 is compared with the A52s?
>>
>> Basically, as long as all things were roughly equal or better, then a
>> A52s could be what we are looking for?
>>
>> Anyone here have / had an A52s and if so, what do / did you think of it
>> please?
>>
>> Cheers, T i m
>
> Had the S8 for five years before pre-ordering S23u and Px'ing it.
>
> S8 - great phone,

Yeah, a mate gave me two that were his sons after they were replaced
with S10's quite a few years ago now and daughter is still using (and
liking) one today. It has a cracked screen (but useable), faulty
charging on the USBc port (by-passable via wireless) and a pretty tired
battery.

The other one I keep here as a spare sort of for the Mrs to use with
Whatsapp but I think it has a faulty microphone or ear speaker.

If hers didn't have such a weak battery she would put up with the other
bits for now.

> Android 9. On mine battery tired and earpiece weak. s/h ~£120. S9 better.

Ok.

> A52 has lower res' screen, no wireless charging (but fast wired), and not IP68. Cameras, storage and battery better. FM radio. Android 11 [upgradeable]

Ok.

> A52s adds 5G, loses FM radio

Noted.

> A54 adds Android 13, more RAM and £200 to new price.

As long as they will take a large SD card for photos she isn't big on
apps. She mainly uses it as a camera, Whatsapp client and phone,
probably in that order.
>
> Full comparison here: -
> https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12070&idPhone2=11039&idPhone3=8161

Thanks. So would a s/h S9 be a worthwhile replacement? She does have
some funds available to buy the right solution (because it is important
to her) but we are out of touch with it all so don't really know where
the VFM sweet spot would be right now?

Cheers, T i m

In message <knmgekFikd9U1@mid.individual.net>
T i m <individual@spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> I don't think the A52's do Wireless charging?

Certainly I'm not aware of it in my A52 - but I've never wanted it
anyway. I plug mine into the computer each evening (that's where I
spend my time!) so it's at 100% each morning, having been turned off
overnight.

I guess your needs depend most of all on how much you use the screen
when you're on the train.

David

On 28/09/2023 21:48, T i m wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The above has been suggested to me as being a valid VFM s/h upgrade
> given how old the Samsung Galaxy S8 is compared with the A52s?
>
> Basically, as long as all things were roughly equal or better, then a
> A52s could be what we are looking for?
>
> Anyone here have / had an A52s and if so, what do / did you think of it
> please?
>
> Cheers, T i m
My Dad has the A52s and he's very happy with it. He's not a power user
by any stretch. He mainly uses it for taking photos/video, browsing,
email, WhatsApp, Youtube, podcasts, listening to online radio etc.

He's not had any problems with it. Says it's fast. reliable, battery
lasts him through the day easily. He's got a 128GB micro SD card in it
for photo/video storage. It can take up to 1TB though as far as I know.

On 29/09/2023 13:25, notya...@gmail.com wrote:
> Full comparison here: -
> https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12070&idPhone2=11039&idPhone3=8161

Thanks, must have a read when I get home.

Might be only a minor thing but I really miss wireless charging and keep
thinking of changing just to get that back.

On 30/09/2023 08:24, JMB99 wrote:
> On 29/09/2023 13:25, notya...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Full comparison here: -
>> https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12070&idPhone2=11039&idPhone3=8161
>
>
> Thanks, must have a read when I get home.
>
> Might be only a minor thing but I really miss wireless charging and keep
> thinking of changing just to get that back.
>
>

There is a number of self adhesive wireless charging pad "things" on the
market which might be worth considering. They all look fairly hideous
and I have no idea if any of them are any good, but it costs nothing to
look.

On 29/09/2023 22:43, David Higton wrote:
> In message <knmgekFikd9U1@mid.individual.net>
> T i m <individual@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> I don't think the A52's do Wireless charging?
>
> Certainly I'm not aware of it in my A52 - but I've never wanted it
> anyway.

Nor did I till I found I had it, now I would prefer to not be without
it. ;-)

> I plug mine into the computer each evening (that's where I
> spend my time!) so it's at 100% each morning, having been turned off
> overnight.

The thing is that whilst USBc makes it a lot easier than uUSB, not
having to plug it in to charge it *at all* is even easier. Not only do
you just have to lay it down (my charger is a horizontal puck style
thing) but you don't have to plug it in and so there is less risk
pulling it off the desk when the cable gets caught up with you /
something. Plus you are less likely to (therefore) wear the connector
out or damage it.
>
> I guess your needs depend most of all on how much you use the screen
> when you're on the train.

If our phones (my S7 or daughters S8) had good batteries we wouldn't
need to charge them on the train at all and if her USBc socket was still
working, she wouldn't *have* to use Wireless charging, even from a
battery pack. ;-(

I nearly got a basic Alcatel from Argos but ended up with an A04s that
seems 'ok' for the little I've used it so far. It is frustrating having
to find the end of the USB cable, hold the phone with the other hand and
plug it in, rather than just dropping it onto the charger with one hand
but maybe with a new / good battery, that wouldn't be such an issue
(basically if my phone isn't in my belt pouch or down somewhere in the
house where I am, it's laying on the charger, just in case I need to go
out and need a reasonably charged phone).

Cheers, T i m

On 30/09/2023 16:45, notya...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, 29 September 2023 at 19:16:17 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
>> On 29/09/2023 13:25, notya...@gmail.com wrote:
> SNIP
>>>
>>> Full comparison here: -
>>> https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12070&idPhone2=11039&idPhone3=8161
>> Thanks. So would a s/h S9 be a worthwhile replacement? She does have
>> some funds available to buy the right solution (because it is important
>> to her) but we are out of touch with it all so don't really know where
>> the VFM sweet spot would be right now?
>
> S9 one generation on from S8. Normal configuration is a hybrid SIM slot that takes two SIMs or a SIM and a MicroSD, but dual SIM only enabled on phones bought from Samsung so a previously locked phone probably won't run two. Single 12MP camera.
>
> A s/h phone is probably five years old now, so the battery is likely to be tired by now and although replaceable this can compromise the water proofing.
>
> Around £150 online. As with my S8 Samsung took a mate's S9 for £160 px last year, and they remarket refurbished phones, but the cheapsest ATM is £500 https://www.samsung.com/uk/certified-re-newed-phones.
>
Ouch.

> You may be better buying from a local retail outlet as then you have somewhere to take it back to if its a dud.

I mean, the chances are there are genuine light-use s/h phones out there
and as you say, if they come with a warranty worth having then there is
less to lose.

Cheers, T i m

On 30/09/2023 08:24, JMB99 wrote:
> On 29/09/2023 13:25, notya...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Full comparison here: -
>> https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12070&idPhone2=11039&idPhone3=8161
>
>
> Thanks, must have a read when I get home.
>
> Might be only a minor thing but I really miss wireless charging and keep
> thinking of changing just to get that back.
>
Having had wireless charging on my old S7 and the spare S8 ... not
having it on a brand new A04s, whilst not a surprise, is a bit of a
PITA. You just get so used to laying the phone down (with one hand) and
seeing / hearing it go on charge, having to hold the phone whilst
finding the end of the cable and plugging it in is way more 'messy',
especially if you are having to do it as often as I do because of the
weak battery. USBc make the process easier of course, just not as easy
as laying the phone down or standing it in a more upright type (that my
Mrs can do, even with her dementia).

Cheers, T i m

On 01/10/2023 08:50, Abandoned Trolley wrote:
> On 30/09/2023 08:24, JMB99 wrote:
>> On 29/09/2023 13:25, notya...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Full comparison here: -
>>> https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12070&idPhone2=11039&idPhone3=8161
>>
>>
>> Thanks, must have a read when I get home.
>>
>> Might be only a minor thing but I really miss wireless charging and
>> keep thinking of changing just to get that back.
>>
>>
>
> There is a number of self adhesive wireless charging pad "things" on the
> market which might be worth considering. They all look fairly hideous
> and I have no idea if any of them are any good, but it costs nothing to
> look.

The one I am going to try suggests it fits inside a std case but looking
at it you may have to perform some small surgery on the protective case
to allow the USBc plug easily.

It's sufficiently as issue for me to want to try that. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
[snip]
> weak battery. USBc make the process easier of course, just not as easy
>
Only if you use non-reversible micro-B charging cables, I switched
to using only reversible micro-B cables long ago, just as easy to use
as USB-C. My Kobo (Kindle look-alike) was supplied with a reversible
micro-B cable.

I really don't understand why non-reversible micro-B cables became the
norm!

--
Chris Green
·

On Thursday, 12 October 2023 at 09:33:05 UTC+1, Chris Green wrote:
> T i m <ete...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
> [snip]
> > weak battery. USBc make the process easier of course, just not as easy
> >
> Only if you use non-reversible micro-B charging cables, I switched
> to using only reversible micro-B cables long ago, just as easy to use
> as USB-C. My Kobo (Kindle look-alike) was supplied with a reversible
> micro-B cable.
>
> I really don't understand why non-reversible micro-B cables became the
> norm!
>
> --
> Chris Green
> ·

Neither do I, my early examples were all bi, but a recently bought 2m cable is not, which fooled me when it didn't work.

On 12/10/2023 09:28, Chris Green wrote:
> T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
> [snip]
>> weak battery. USBc make the process easier of course, just not as easy
>>
> Only if you use non-reversible micro-B charging cables, I switched
> to using only reversible micro-B cables long ago, just as easy to use
> as USB-C. My Kobo (Kindle look-alike) was supplied with a reversible
> micro-B cable.
>
> I really don't understand why non-reversible micro-B cables became the
> norm!
>
I didn't even know such a thing existed!

So do they fit in *all* mUSB socketed devices?

Cheers, T i m

On 29/09/2023 23:07, Phil wrote:

> My Dad has the A52s and he's very happy with it. He's not a power user
> by any stretch. He mainly uses it for taking photos/video, browsing,
> email, WhatsApp, Youtube, podcasts, listening to online radio etc.

Not sure about 'power user' but it sounds like he uses it for more
things than I do!
>
> He's not had any problems with it. Says it's fast. reliable, battery
> lasts him through the day easily.

That's what I miss the most. Nothing more frustrating when your phone
goes flat, just as you are trying to arrange parking payment etc. ;-(

> He's got a 128GB micro SD card in it
> for photo/video storage. It can take up to 1TB though as far as I know.

Cool, thanks.

Cheers, T i m