In uk.transport.london Lew1 <email@nowhere.com> wrote:
> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As expected, the all-new £419m Thameslink station opened today. Apparently
> > it's the first all-new mainline station in London in a decade, and has four
> > 12-car platforms. Confusingly, it's not really aimed at visitors to Brent
> > Cross shopping centre, which is 20 minutes walk away, but at the major new
> > Brent Cross Town development.
> >
> > Geoff's video: https://youtu.be/cdybq0_R_g4?si=6R9Zv1-Q5kK7x23B
> >
> > It allseems quite impressive.
>
> I noted while passing through today that the new station has not been
> fitted with the suicide-prevention fences that the stations before and
> after it have - the ones preventing access to the fast lines.
>
> A change in policy, or an oversight..?

I thought the idea is (some) trains will stop on the fast lines? That's why
they've built a whole platform for them and installed a lift. Maybe not the
regular service to begin with, but at times of disruption, engineering etc,
and maybe more once the nearby development is completed?

Theo

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> In uk.transport.london Lew1 <email@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> As expected, the all-new £419m Thameslink station opened today. Apparently
>>> it's the first all-new mainline station in London in a decade, and has four
>>> 12-car platforms. Confusingly, it's not really aimed at visitors to Brent
>>> Cross shopping centre, which is 20 minutes walk away, but at the major new
>>> Brent Cross Town development.
>>>
>>> Geoff's video: https://youtu.be/cdybq0_R_g4?si=6R9Zv1-Q5kK7x23B
>>>
>>> It allseems quite impressive.
>>
>> I noted while passing through today that the new station has not been
>> fitted with the suicide-prevention fences that the stations before and
>> after it have - the ones preventing access to the fast lines.
>>
>> A change in policy, or an oversight..?
>
> I thought the idea is (some) trains will stop on the fast lines? That's why
> they've built a whole platform for them and installed a lift. Maybe not the
> regular service to begin with, but at times of disruption, engineering etc,
> and maybe more once the nearby development is completed?

Exactly. They can open the upstairs barriers in such circumstances.

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> In uk.transport.london Lew1 <email@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> As expected, the all-new £419m Thameslink station opened today. Apparently
>>> it's the first all-new mainline station in London in a decade, and has four
>>> 12-car platforms. Confusingly, it's not really aimed at visitors to Brent
>>> Cross shopping centre, which is 20 minutes walk away, but at the major new
>>> Brent Cross Town development.
>>>
>>> Geoff's video: https://youtu.be/cdybq0_R_g4?si=6R9Zv1-Q5kK7x23B
>>>
>>> It allseems quite impressive.
>>
>> I noted while passing through today that the new station has not been
>> fitted with the suicide-prevention fences that the stations before and
>> after it have - the ones preventing access to the fast lines.
>>
>> A change in policy, or an oversight..?
>
> I thought the idea is (some) trains will stop on the fast lines? That's why
> they've built a whole platform for them and installed a lift. Maybe not the
> regular service to begin with, but at times of disruption, engineering etc,
> and maybe more once the nearby development is completed?
>
>

That hasn't prevented the installation of fences at GWML stations - the
large gates in them are opened by station staff when a train requires to
call on the main lines.

Anna Noyd-Dryver

On 20/12/2023 03:36, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> In uk.transport.london Lew1 <email@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> As expected, the all-new £419m Thameslink station opened today. Apparently
>>>> it's the first all-new mainline station in London in a decade, and has four
>>>> 12-car platforms. Confusingly, it's not really aimed at visitors to Brent
>>>> Cross shopping centre, which is 20 minutes walk away, but at the major new
>>>> Brent Cross Town development.
>>>>
>>>> Geoff's video: https://youtu.be/cdybq0_R_g4?si=6R9Zv1-Q5kK7x23B
>>>>
>>>> It allseems quite impressive.
>>>
>>> I noted while passing through today that the new station has not been
>>> fitted with the suicide-prevention fences that the stations before and
>>> after it have - the ones preventing access to the fast lines.
>>>
>>> A change in policy, or an oversight..?
>>
>> I thought the idea is (some) trains will stop on the fast lines? That's why
>> they've built a whole platform for them and installed a lift. Maybe not the
>> regular service to begin with, but at times of disruption, engineering etc,
>> and maybe more once the nearby development is completed?
>>
>>
>
> That hasn't prevented the installation of fences at GWML stations - the
> large gates in them are opened by station staff when a train requires to
> call on the main lines.
>

Similarly, SWR have one at Wimbledon.

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Graeme Wall
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