I had a Oneplus 5T that was never easy to see in outside liight.
On the local beach I couldn't see anything on the display.
Yet, I could see the display on my daughter's Samsung phone quite
well. Please can anyone advise me on a relatively inexpensive,
slightly older than the most recent phones, with a good display?
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Richard Treen wrote:

> I had a Oneplus 5T that was never easy to see in outside liight.
> On the local beach I couldn't see anything on the display.
> Yet, I could see the display on my daughter's Samsung phone quite
> well.

You can get quite bright OLED screens, unfortunately unlikely to be on
cheaper/older phones ...

On Sun 21/01/2024 11:33, Andy Burns wrote:
> Richard Treen wrote:
>
>> I had a Oneplus 5T that was never easy to see in outside liight.
>> On the local beach I couldn't see anything on the display.
>> Yet, I could see the display on my daughter's Samsung phone quite
>> well.
>
> You can get quite bright OLED screens, unfortunately unlikely to be on
> cheaper/older phones ...
>

Have a look at the 'simple' smartphones by Doro.

On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 11:29:24 +0000
Richard Treen <treenoakio@home.com> wrote:

> I had a Oneplus 5T that was never easy to see in outside liight.
> On the local beach I couldn't see anything on the display.
> Yet, I could see the display on my daughter's Samsung phone quite
> well. Please can anyone advise me on a relatively inexpensive,
> slightly older than the most recent phones, with a good display?

Unwarp this:
https://www.rnib.org.uk/living-with-sight-loss/assistive-aids-and-technology/tech-support-and-information/phones-and-tablets/

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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> Wrote in message:
> Richard Treen wrote:
>
>> I had a Oneplus 5T that was never easy to see in outside liight.
>> On the local beach I couldn't see anything on the display.
>> Yet, I could see the display on my daughter's Samsung phone quite
>> well.
>
> You can get quite bright OLED screens, unfortunately unlikely to be on
> cheaper/older phones ...

Richard: find out what model your daughter's Samsung is, and hence
what sort of display it has. Maybe the Oneplus 5T is just dim.
Then you might know what display technology you should look
for.

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On 21/01/2024 11:29, Richard Treen wrote:
> I could see the display on my daughter's Samsung phone quite
> well. Please can anyone advise me on a relatively inexpensive,
> slightly older than the most recent phones, with a good display?

My limited experience of Samsung phones is that only those with an OLED
can outperform bright sunlight.

OLED is always going to be a premium feature, although I had a J5
(2017), which is mid- to low-range, with one. The problem it has now is
that the upgrades means there is no room for any apps, and it is end of
life in terms of security updates.

You might be able to get a display replaced with an OLED one, but it is
likely to cost more than a low end non-OLED, just for the upgrade.

Thanks for the advice. I'm thinking of going for the Samsung S21 or
S22 or Google Pixel 7 Pro, when I've sorted out which has the display
quality I need,
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On 21/01/2024 11:29, Richard Treen wrote:
>
> I had a Oneplus 5T that was never easy to see in outside liight.
> On the local beach I couldn't see anything on the display.
> Yet, I could see the display on my daughter's Samsung phone quite
> well. Please can anyone advise me on a relatively inexpensive,
> slightly older than the most recent phones, with a good display?

I note that you've already received a number of suggestions, but I'm
wondering how far you investigated this on the problem phone. I have a
Samsung Galaxy Tab SM-T719 Android 7, so obviously quite old now, and
there are various display options which make quite a difference to how
bright the screen is in various situations, and which I've had to tweak
in the distant past, but not recently so I can't remember what they were
by default. The settings which I list below suit me fine in most
situations, but I can't comment on a beach in bright sunlight.

Under Settings, Display I have:

Brightness A slider which is about two-thirds maximum
Auto brightness On
Screen mode Basic*

* Under current lighting, a single table lamp a couple of meters away in
the gloom of a Scottish rain-washed dusk, of the different options only
'Reading mode' is significantly different, and dimmer, compared to
'Basic', but vague memory suggests that originally it was on different
setting, probably 'Adaptive display'.

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On Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:42:17 +0000, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid>
wrote:

>On 21/01/2024 11:29, Richard Treen wrote:
>>
>> I had a Oneplus 5T that was never easy to see in outside liight.
>> On the local beach I couldn't see anything on the display.
>> Yet, I could see the display on my daughter's Samsung phone quite
>> well. Please can anyone advise me on a relatively inexpensive,
>> slightly older than the most recent phones, with a good display?
>
>I note that you've already received a number of suggestions, but I'm
>wondering how far you investigated this on the problem phone. I have a
>Samsung Galaxy Tab SM-T719 Android 7, so obviously quite old now, and
>there are various display options which make quite a difference to how
>bright the screen is in various situations, and which I've had to tweak
>in the distant past, but not recently so I can't remember what they were
>by default. The settings which I list below suit me fine in most
>situations, but I can't comment on a beach in bright sunlight.
>
>Under Settings, Display I have:
>
> Brightness A slider which is about two-thirds maximum
> Auto brightness On
> Screen mode Basic*
>
>* Under current lighting, a single table lamp a couple of meters away in
>the gloom of a Scottish rain-washed dusk, of the different options only
>'Reading mode' is significantly different, and dimmer, compared to
>'Basic', but vague memory suggests that originally it was on different
>setting, probably 'Adaptive display'.

Thanks. I've had the OnePlus 5T phone for a few years now and have
been through all the options you suggest.
The phone is now dead and I'm looking not to find myself in a similar
position with the display quality of the next one.
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On 21/01/2024 16:42, Java Jive wrote:
>     Brightness       A slider which is about two-thirds maximum
>     Auto brightness  On
>     Screen mode      Basic*
Samsung Android sliders set the absolute current level, not that
relative to the ambient lighting. Two thirds is rather high if the
ambient level is a table light. If you need that for a table light you
will maxxed out long before you get to bright sunlight.
On the phones I've used backlit displays have intrinsically less
brightness at maximum than active emitters, like OLED.
The SM-T719 has an OLED (AMOLED) display.

On 21/01/2024 22:41, David Woolley wrote:
>
> On 21/01/2024 16:42, Java Jive wrote:
>>
>>      Brightness       A slider which is about two-thirds maximum
>>      Auto brightness  On
>>      Screen mode      Basic*
>
> Samsung Android sliders set the absolute current level, not that
> relative to the ambient lighting.  Two thirds is rather high  if the
> ambient level is a table light.  If you need that for a table light you
> will maxxed out long before you get to bright sunlight.

All I can say is that I find the settings I have work for me, but that's
not to say that I won't have to change them if I leave my normal use
environment.

> On the phones I've used backlit displays have intrinsically less
> brightness at maximum than active emitters, like OLED.
>
> The SM-T719 has an OLED (AMOLED) display.

Yes. It's a good display.

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