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* Spusu: mediocre data speeds, packet loss, etcOttavio Caruso
`* Re: Spusu: mediocre data speeds, packet loss, etcAndy Burns
 `* Re: Spusu: mediocre data speeds, packet loss, etcOttavio Caruso
  `* Re: Spusu: mediocre data speeds, packet loss, etcAndy Burns
   `* Re: Spusu: mediocre data speeds, packet loss, etcOttavio Caruso
    +* Re: Spusu: mediocre data speeds, packet loss, etcChristof Meerwald
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    `* Re: Spusu: mediocre data speeds, packet loss, etcMark
     `- Re: Spusu: mediocre data speeds, packet loss, etcOttavio Caruso

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From: ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com (Ottavio Caruso)
Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile
Subject: Spusu: mediocre data speeds, packet loss, etc
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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Mon, 11 Mar 2024 15:45 UTC

So I have finally completed the move to Spusu from Asda Mobile.

Pros: very quick, almost instant support on the Signal app, more bang
for the buck, etc.

The only thing is that data (4G) is mediocre. I don't even complain
about the speed. It's the atrocious packet loss. See screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/co2iXOR.png

The bottleneck seems to be 142.250.171.82, which is in the USA and has
presumably nothing to with Spusu, however, as we know most of websites
are in the USA. I didn't have this packet loss when I was an ASDA.

Only me or can anybody relate?

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Ottavio Caruso

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 11 Mar 2024 17:07 UTC

Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> The bottleneck seems to be 142.250.171.82, which is in the USA

It's a google IP addr.

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Mon, 11 Mar 2024 17:45 UTC

Am 11/03/2024 um 17:07 schrieb Andy Burns:
> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>
>> The bottleneck seems to be 142.250.171.82, which is in the USA
>
> It's a google IP addr.

Yes, but how come I didn't have this on Asda?

--
Ottavio Caruso

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 by: Andy Burns - Mon, 11 Mar 2024 17:51 UTC

Ottavio Caruso wrote:

> schrieb Andy Burns:
>
>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>
>>> The bottleneck seems to be 142.250.171.82, which is in the USA
>>
>> It's a google IP addr.
>
> Yes, but how come I didn't have this on Asda?

spusu over EE seems to be routing to America via COLT, presumably ASDA
(over Vodafone?) routed a different way?

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From: ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com (Ottavio Caruso)
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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Tue, 12 Mar 2024 09:16 UTC

Am 11/03/2024 um 17:51 schrieb Andy Burns:
> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>
>> schrieb Andy Burns:
>>
>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>
>>>> The bottleneck seems to be 142.250.171.82, which is in the USA
>>>
>>> It's a google IP addr.
>>
>> Yes, but how come I didn't have this on Asda?
>
> spusu over EE seems to be routing to America via COLT, presumably ASDA
> (over Vodafone?) routed a different way?
>
>

I'm also getting packet loss from 10.10.15.200, a private IP but not
mine because my phone is in the 192.168.** range:
https://i.imgur.com/tIsAYPc.png

and 83.216.40.34, which is in Austria:
https://i.imgur.com/c71CM3Q.png

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Ottavio Caruso

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 by: Christof Meerwald - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:36 UTC

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 09:16:59 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Am 11/03/2024 um 17:51 schrieb Andy Burns:
>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>> schrieb Andy Burns:
>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>> The bottleneck seems to be 142.250.171.82, which is in the USA

That IP address is not in the USA. It might be part of an IP subnet
that is owned by a US company, but that doesn't really mean much as
Google has data centres and servers around the world.

And just because your tool shows any particular packet loss for a
specific IP address doesn't really mean much either - it's most likely
just that the router rate-limits ICMP replies.

> I'm also getting packet loss from 10.10.15.200, a private IP but not
> mine because my phone is in the 192.168.** range:
> https://i.imgur.com/tIsAYPc.png
>
> and 83.216.40.34, which is in Austria:
> https://i.imgur.com/c71CM3Q.png

Same thing here, just because the IP address is owned by an Austrian
company doesn't mean that the router for that IP address is physically
located in Austria.

Christof

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:32 UTC

Am 13/03/2024 um 15:36 schrieb Christof Meerwald:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 09:16:59 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>> Am 11/03/2024 um 17:51 schrieb Andy Burns:
>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>> schrieb Andy Burns:
>>>>> Ottavio Caruso wrote:
>>>>>> The bottleneck seems to be 142.250.171.82, which is in the USA
>
> That IP address is not in the USA. It might be part of an IP subnet
> that is owned by a US company, but that doesn't really mean much as
> Google has data centres and servers around the world.
>
> And just because your tool shows any particular packet loss for a
> specific IP address doesn't really mean much either - it's most likely
> just that the router rate-limits ICMP replies.
>
>
>> I'm also getting packet loss from 10.10.15.200, a private IP but not
>> mine because my phone is in the 192.168.** range:
>> https://i.imgur.com/tIsAYPc.png
>>
>> and 83.216.40.34, which is in Austria:
>> https://i.imgur.com/c71CM3Q.png
>
> Same thing here, just because the IP address is owned by an Austrian
> company doesn't mean that the router for that IP address is physically
> located in Austria.

Apparently, it seems to be located in Vienna.

https://en.ipshu.com/ip_d_list/83.216.40

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 16:33 UTC

Am 13/03/2024 um 15:36 schrieb Christof Meerwald:

Forgot to add:
>
> And just because your tool shows any particular packet loss for a
> specific IP address doesn't really mean much either - it's most likely
> just that the router rate-limits ICMP replies.
>
>

I'll try again tonight but using udp instead of ICMP.

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 by: Mark - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:08 UTC

On 12/03/2024 09:16, Ottavio Caruso wrote:

[snip]

>
> I'm also getting packet loss from 10.10.15.200, a private IP but not
> mine because my phone is in the 192.168.** range:
> https://i.imgur.com/tIsAYPc.png

Install IP tools and see if that is an internal IP address established
by Spusu. I see 10.x.x.x addressses when Mobile data is on, and
connected. It's an address in addition to any WLAN IP address from home
broadband (typically 192.168.x.x as you say)

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 by: Ottavio Caruso - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 10:12 UTC

Am 13/03/2024 um 19:08 schrieb Mark:
> On 12/03/2024 09:16, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
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> [snip]
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>>
>> I'm also getting packet loss from 10.10.15.200, a private IP but not
>> mine because my phone is in the 192.168.** range:
>> https://i.imgur.com/tIsAYPc.png
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>
> Install IP tools and see if that is an internal IP address established
> by Spusu.  I see 10.x.x.x addressses when Mobile data is on, and
> connected.  It's an address in addition to any WLAN IP address from home
> broadband (typically 192.168.x.x as you say)
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>

I was going to reply that 10.10.15.200 is defo a private address, however:

c@t440:~$ sudo traceroute bbc.co.uk
traceroute to bbc.co.uk (151.101.0.81), 30 hops max, 46 byte packets
1 _gateway (192.168.43.1) 0.950 ms 1.000 ms 0.954 ms
2 83.216.41.34 (83.216.41.34) 41.211 ms 46.623 ms 32.936 ms
3 10.10.15.201 (10.10.15.201) 39.018 ms 37.588 ms 40.353 ms
4 pw-ether538.2-lo0-sr2.lon.router.colt.net (80.169.93.201) 39.555
ms * 56.079 ms
5 212.74.73.109 (212.74.73.109) 40.884 ms 193.114.176.199
(193.114.176.199) 41.048 ms 212.74.66.249 (212.74.66.249) 39.348 ms

So, why is the first hop a public address 83.216.41.34, but the second
is a private one (10.10.15.201)?

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Ottavio Caruso

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