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Re: Eurostar from Amsterdam to be suspended for 6 months

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From: roland@perry.uk (Roland Perry)
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Subject: Re: Eurostar from Amsterdam to be suspended for 6 months
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by: Roland Perry - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:41 UTC

In message <g4femi53iheti2gjo0u0emi35cfd77g0ob@4ax.com>, at 13:30:23 on
Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 12:47:55 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <7v4emih0gde9suc877fpqv23o6r5lsujvm@4ax.com>, at 10:37:19 on
>>Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 07:26:40 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In message <ksmplvFj5auU1@mid.individual.net>, at 18:26:07 on Tue, 28
>>>>Nov 2023, Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> remarked:
>>>>>On 27/11/2023 07:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is the security arrangements at Centraal, so no problem
>>>>>>with inbound trains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When did they start going to the Hague?
>>>>
>>>>>> You know what was said yesterday about journalists knowing nothing
>>>>>>(even when writing for paid-for publications).
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes but they are, from what I saw, also cancelling services from
>>>>>Rotterdam. Are there works going on there too?
>>>>
>>>>If they had emigration/security facilities at Rotterdam (I'll take your
>>>>word for it) they would only be used by a handful of passengers boarding
>>>>the train which had earlier mainly loaded up at Amsterdam. Without the
>>>>latter, the former would be uneconomic.
>>>
>>>The trains will be running from Amsterdam anyway, with domestic
>>>Schengen (non-security checked) passengers. Presumably the trains will
>>>use domestic platforms at Brussels?
>>
>>In which case passengers bound for the UK can do their own "Brussels
>>shuffle" without the train company having to ensure they are quarantined
>>in specific carriages on the train (having paid for the uneconomic
>>facilities at Rotterdam). Assuming even that the same carriages were
>>bound for the UK.
>
>Yes
>
>It's only for the six months that the Amsterdam international
>facilities won't be available.

The news story is they've dramatically shortened that period of
unavailablity. Maybe they've hired *two* men and a dog, to do
it a bit quicker?
--
Roland Perry

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by: Recliner - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 09:33 UTC

Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> In message <g4femi53iheti2gjo0u0emi35cfd77g0ob@4ax.com>, at 13:30:23 on
> Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 12:47:55 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <7v4emih0gde9suc877fpqv23o6r5lsujvm@4ax.com>, at 10:37:19 on
>>> Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 07:26:40 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In message <ksmplvFj5auU1@mid.individual.net>, at 18:26:07 on Tue, 28
>>>>> Nov 2023, Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> remarked:
>>>>>> On 27/11/2023 07:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is the security arrangements at Centraal, so no problem
>>>>>>> with inbound trains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When did they start going to the Hague?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know what was said yesterday about journalists knowing nothing
>>>>>>> (even when writing for paid-for publications).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes but they are, from what I saw, also cancelling services from
>>>>>> Rotterdam. Are there works going on there too?
>>>>>
>>>>> If they had emigration/security facilities at Rotterdam (I'll take your
>>>>> word for it) they would only be used by a handful of passengers boarding
>>>>> the train which had earlier mainly loaded up at Amsterdam. Without the
>>>>> latter, the former would be uneconomic.
>>>>
>>>> The trains will be running from Amsterdam anyway, with domestic
>>>> Schengen (non-security checked) passengers. Presumably the trains will
>>>> use domestic platforms at Brussels?
>>>
>>> In which case passengers bound for the UK can do their own "Brussels
>>> shuffle" without the train company having to ensure they are quarantined
>>> in specific carriages on the train (having paid for the uneconomic
>>> facilities at Rotterdam). Assuming even that the same carriages were
>>> bound for the UK.
>>
>> Yes
>>
>> It's only for the six months that the Amsterdam international
>> facilities won't be available.
>
> The news story is they've dramatically shortened that period of
> unavailablity.

Yes, agreed. The headline is much gloomier than the actual story.

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Subject: Re: Eurostar from Amsterdam to be suspended for 6 months
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by: Tweed - Fri, 1 Dec 2023 09:56 UTC

Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
> Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>> In message <g4femi53iheti2gjo0u0emi35cfd77g0ob@4ax.com>, at 13:30:23 on
>> Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 12:47:55 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In message <7v4emih0gde9suc877fpqv23o6r5lsujvm@4ax.com>, at 10:37:19 on
>>>> Wed, 29 Nov 2023, Recliner <recliner.usenet@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>>> On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 07:26:40 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In message <ksmplvFj5auU1@mid.individual.net>, at 18:26:07 on Tue, 28
>>>>>> Nov 2023, Clive Page <usenet@page2.eu> remarked:
>>>>>>> On 27/11/2023 07:13, Roland Perry wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The problem is the security arrangements at Centraal, so no problem
>>>>>>>> with inbound trains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When did they start going to the Hague?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You know what was said yesterday about journalists knowing nothing
>>>>>>>> (even when writing for paid-for publications).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes but they are, from what I saw, also cancelling services from
>>>>>>> Rotterdam. Are there works going on there too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they had emigration/security facilities at Rotterdam (I'll take your
>>>>>> word for it) they would only be used by a handful of passengers boarding
>>>>>> the train which had earlier mainly loaded up at Amsterdam. Without the
>>>>>> latter, the former would be uneconomic.
>>>>>
>>>>> The trains will be running from Amsterdam anyway, with domestic
>>>>> Schengen (non-security checked) passengers. Presumably the trains will
>>>>> use domestic platforms at Brussels?
>>>>
>>>> In which case passengers bound for the UK can do their own "Brussels
>>>> shuffle" without the train company having to ensure they are quarantined
>>>> in specific carriages on the train (having paid for the uneconomic
>>>> facilities at Rotterdam). Assuming even that the same carriages were
>>>> bound for the UK.
>>>
>>> Yes
>>>
>>> It's only for the six months that the Amsterdam international
>>> facilities won't be available.
>>
>> The news story is they've dramatically shortened that period of
>> unavailablity.
>
> Yes, agreed. The headline is much gloomier than the actual story.
>
>
>

Hopefully it will result in better E* facilities at Amsterdam. What they
currently have is pretty grim.

Avoid contact with skin.

aus+uk / uk.railway / Re: Eurostar from Amsterdam to be suspended for 6 months

Subject	Author
Re: Eurostar from Amsterdam to be suspended for 6 months	Roland Perry
Re: Eurostar from Amsterdam to be suspended for 6 months	Recliner
Re: Eurostar from Amsterdam to be suspended for 6 months	Tweed