What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
the north).

You know one of the three answers.
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Roland Perry

On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:

>What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>the north).
>
>You know one of the three answers.

Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
Douglas and St Asaph.

Mark

Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>
>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>> the north).
>>
>> You know one of the three answers.
>
> Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
> Douglas and St Asaph.

Before I look at a map, I’d hazard that St Davids might also be north of
Cardiff…

… and so it is. So is Swansea.

Sam

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Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>> the north).
>>>
>>> You know one of the three answers.
>>
>> Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>> Douglas and St Asaph.
>
> Before I look at a map, I’d hazard that St Davids might also be north of
> Cardiff…
>
> … and so it is. So is Swansea.
>
> Sam
>

Glasgow

In message <sc7b1j16834ne7cu7spk108hhtjka8j01l@4ax.com>, at 21:02:55 on
Tue, 9 Apr 2024, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
remarked:
>On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>
>>What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>the north).
>>
>>You know one of the three answers.
>
>Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>Douglas and St Asaph.

None of those, it was Ely (hurrah!) Chelmsford, and one other which I've
now forgotten (Norwich maybe).
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Roland Perry

In message <uv4arr$f4n2$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:10:19 on Tue, 9 Apr
2024, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>> the north).
>>>
>>> You know one of the three answers.
>>
>> Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>> Douglas and St Asaph.
>
>Before I look at a map, I’d hazard that St Davids might also be north of
>Cardiff…
>
>… and so it is. So is Swansea.

St Davids is too well known as a pub-quiz answer to be "pointless".
That's part of the joy of the programme, the answers need to be better
than that.
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 08:09:16 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:

>In message <sc7b1j16834ne7cu7spk108hhtjka8j01l@4ax.com>, at 21:02:55 on
>Tue, 9 Apr 2024, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
>remarked:
>>On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>>the north).
>>>
>>>You know one of the three answers.
>>
>>Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>>Douglas and St Asaph.
>
>None of those, it was Ely (hurrah!) Chelmsford, and one other which I've
>now forgotten (Norwich maybe).

That surprises me, because Ely is rarely pointless. Maybe people were
disregarding it because they think it's further south. Ditto Chelmsford.

Mark

On 09/04/2024 17:31, Roland Perry wrote:
> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
> the north).
>
> You know one of the three answers.

I've not watched that episode yet but I'd go for St Asaph, Lichfield and
anywhere in Northern Ireland. Depending on the exact wording, we might
also include Moscow and Adak, Alaska.

On 10/04/2024 06:57, Tweed wrote:
> Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>>> the north).
>>>>
>>>> You know one of the three answers.
>>>
>>> Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>>> Douglas and St Asaph.
>>
>> Before I look at a map, I’d hazard that St Davids might also be north of
>> Cardiff…
>>
>> … and so it is. So is Swansea.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>
> Glasgow
>

That was my answer during the programme, but I was not sure!

--
Colin

On 10/04/2024 09:59, Certes wrote:
> On 09/04/2024 17:31, Roland Perry wrote:
>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>> the north).
>>
>> You know one of the three answers.
>
> I've not watched that episode yet but I'd go for St Asaph, Lichfield and
> anywhere in Northern Ireland.  Depending on the exact wording, we might
> also include Moscow and Adak, Alaska.

The question was definitely "UK cities" so not Russia or the Excited States.

--
Colin

On 10/04/2024 08:10, Roland Perry wrote:
> In message <uv4arr$f4n2$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:10:19 on Tue, 9 Apr
> 2024, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>>> the north).
>>>>
>>>> You know one of the three answers.
>>>
>>> Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>>> Douglas and St Asaph.
>>
>> Before I look at a map, I’d hazard that St Davids might also be north of
>> Cardiff…
>>
>> … and so it is.  So is Swansea.
>
> St Davids is too well known as a pub-quiz answer to be "pointless".
> That's part of the joy of the programme, the answers need to be better
> than that.

Just looked at iPlayer - Roland is partially correct, the first board of
three pointless answers included Ely. However, there were two other
boards with pointless answers, a total of 9 pointless answers:
Chelmsford, Colchester, Ely, Lichfield, Milton Keynes, Ripon,
Southend-on-sea, St Albans and Westminster. Lots from NI were single
points as was either St Asaph or St Davids.

Must admit I was surprised at the Southend answer, must be a fairly
newly created city!

--
Colin

ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
> On 10/04/2024 08:10, Roland Perry wrote:
>> In message <uv4arr$f4n2$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:10:19 on Tue, 9 Apr
>> 2024, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>>>> the north).
>>>>>
>>>>> You know one of the three answers.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>>>> Douglas and St Asaph.
>>>
>>> Before I look at a map, I’d hazard that St Davids might also be north of
>>> Cardiff…
>>>
>>> … and so it is.  So is Swansea.
>>
>> St Davids is too well known as a pub-quiz answer to be "pointless".
>> That's part of the joy of the programme, the answers need to be better
>> than that.
>
> Just looked at iPlayer - Roland is partially correct, the first board of
> three pointless answers included Ely. However, there were two other
> boards with pointless answers, a total of 9 pointless answers:
> Chelmsford, Colchester, Ely, Lichfield, Milton Keynes, Ripon,
> Southend-on-sea, St Albans and Westminster. Lots from NI were single
> points as was either St Asaph or St Davids.
>
> Must admit I was surprised at the Southend answer, must be a fairly
> newly created city!
>

A man died for that:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/david-amess-southendonsea-essex-uk-city-of-culture-city-b2203333.html

On 10/04/2024 10:29, Recliner wrote:
> ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 10/04/2024 08:10, Roland Perry wrote:
>>> In message <uv4arr$f4n2$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:10:19 on Tue, 9 Apr
>>> 2024, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>>>> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>>>>> the north).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know one of the three answers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>>>>> Douglas and St Asaph.
>>>>
>>>> Before I look at a map, I’d hazard that St Davids might also be north of
>>>> Cardiff…
>>>>
>>>> … and so it is.  So is Swansea.
>>>
>>> St Davids is too well known as a pub-quiz answer to be "pointless".
>>> That's part of the joy of the programme, the answers need to be better
>>> than that.
>>
>> Just looked at iPlayer - Roland is partially correct, the first board of
>> three pointless answers included Ely. However, there were two other
>> boards with pointless answers, a total of 9 pointless answers:
>> Chelmsford, Colchester, Ely, Lichfield, Milton Keynes, Ripon,
>> Southend-on-sea, St Albans and Westminster. Lots from NI were single
>> points as was either St Asaph or St Davids.
>>
>> Must admit I was surprised at the Southend answer, must be a fairly
>> newly created city!
>>
>
> A man died for that:
>
> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/david-amess-southendonsea-essex-uk-city-of-culture-city-b2203333.html
>

Thanks, I recall that now.

--
Colin

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:22:48 +0100, ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 10/04/2024 08:10, Roland Perry wrote:

>> St Davids is too well known as a pub-quiz answer to be "pointless".
>> That's part of the joy of the programme, the answers need to be better
>> than that.
>
>Just looked at iPlayer - Roland is partially correct, the first board of
>three pointless answers included Ely. However, there were two other
>boards with pointless answers, a total of 9 pointless answers:
>Chelmsford, Colchester, Ely, Lichfield, Milton Keynes, Ripon,
>Southend-on-sea, St Albans and Westminster. Lots from NI were single
>points as was either St Asaph or St Davids.

OK, so I still got one. Lichfield is the one that everybody forgets. It's
not a location that has any other claim to fame (unlike St Davids), and nor
is it among the outliers (eg, in NI) that geography nerds make a point of
memorising.

Mark

Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
> In message <uv4arr$f4n2$1@dont-email.me>, at 21:10:19 on Tue, 9 Apr
> 2024, Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> remarked:
>> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>>> the north).
>>>>
>>>> You know one of the three answers.
>>>
>>> Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>>> Douglas and St Asaph.
>>
>> Before I look at a map, I’d hazard that St Davids might also be north of
>> Cardiff…
>>
>> … and so it is. So is Swansea.
>
> St Davids is too well known as a pub-quiz answer to be "pointless".
> That's part of the joy of the programme, the answers need to be better
> than that.

I wasn’t really trying to play, I was just checking my geography. I don’t
watch live TV or the BBC.

Sam

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On 10/04/2024 10:44, Mark Goodge wrote:
> OK, so I still got one. Lichfield is the one that everybody forgets. It's
> not a location that has any other claim to fame (unlike St Davids), and nor
> is it among the outliers (eg, in NI) that geography nerds make a point of
> memorising.

It is interesting how quite obscure answers have now learnt by people.
Any question on the names of elements brings out ones most have never
heard of, it happens so often that quite common elements can get low
scores because they get overlooked.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:44:25 +0100, Mark Goodge
<usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:

>On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:22:48 +0100, ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>On 10/04/2024 08:10, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>>> St Davids is too well known as a pub-quiz answer to be "pointless".
>>> That's part of the joy of the programme, the answers need to be better
>>> than that.
>>
>>Just looked at iPlayer - Roland is partially correct, the first board of
>>three pointless answers included Ely. However, there were two other
>>boards with pointless answers, a total of 9 pointless answers:
>>Chelmsford, Colchester, Ely, Lichfield, Milton Keynes, Ripon,
>>Southend-on-sea, St Albans and Westminster. Lots from NI were single
>>points as was either St Asaph or St Davids.
>
>OK, so I still got one. Lichfield is the one that everybody forgets. It's
>not a location that has any other claim to fame (unlike St Davids), and nor
>is it among the outliers (eg, in NI) that geography nerds make a point of
>memorising.
>

Lichfield has an unmissable transmitter and a rather nice cathedral.

Whilst I knew Southend was a (newly formed) city I'd have been hard
pressed to decide whether it was North or South of Cardiff.

I do find saying Milton Keynes City somewhat difficult.

--
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Why ever wait to finish a job before starting the next?

On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:34:48 +0100, JMB99 wrote:
> It is interesting how quite obscure answers have now learnt by people.
> Any question on the names of elements brings out ones most have never
> heard of, it happens so often that quite common elements can get low
> scores because they get overlooked.

It's clear that the "100 people" polled includes some regular Pointless
viewers. Once the contestants pick up on a frequent pointless answer, it
rapidly stops being pointless. It's caught contestants out too - give an
answer that's always been pointless in previous seasons, and end up
scoring 1 or 2.

Mike

ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk> wrote:
> On 10/04/2024 06:57, Tweed wrote:
>> Sam Wilson <ukr@dummy.wislons.fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>>>> the north).
>>>>>
>>>>> You know one of the three answers.
>>>>
>>>> Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>>>> Douglas and St Asaph.
>>>
>>> Before I look at a map, I’d hazard that St Davids might also be north of
>>> Cardiff…
>>>
>>> … and so it is. So is Swansea.
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>
>> Glasgow
>>
>
> That was my answer during the programme, but I was not sure!
>
> --
> Colin
>
>

Yes, it’s 0.09 degrees south of Edinburgh.

On 10/04/2024 18:38, Mike Humphrey wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 12:34:48 +0100, JMB99 wrote:
>> It is interesting how quite obscure answers have now learnt by people.
>> Any question on the names of elements brings out ones most have never
>> heard of, it happens so often that quite common elements can get low
>> scores because they get overlooked.
>
> It's clear that the "100 people" polled includes some regular Pointless
> viewers. Once the contestants pick up on a frequent pointless answer, it
> rapidly stops being pointless. It's caught contestants out too - give an
> answer that's always been pointless in previous seasons, and end up
> scoring 1 or 2.

Pointless has several favourite themes such as "Name a country which..."
and "Name a chemical element which...". The show is responsible for the
man on the Clapham Junction train learning that Vanuatu and oganesson
exist, even if he can't locate them on a map or periodic table.

One day, people who don't do organised quizzes may even learn the U.S.
state capitals.

On 10/04/2024 19:30, Certes wrote:
> Pointless has several favourite themes such as "Name a country which..."
> and "Name a chemical element which...".  The show is responsible for the
> man on the Clapham Junction train learning that Vanuatu and oganesson
> exist, even if he can't locate them on a map or periodic table.

They seem to be trying a few new themes. One would be to name capitals
starting with letter C to P - you can almost guarantee that someone will
name one beginning with R!

In message <nghc1jhkhsel9bqt5gttn0rh0lfu8fp50l@4ax.com>, at 08:57:08 on
Wed, 10 Apr 2024, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
remarked:
>On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 08:09:16 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <sc7b1j16834ne7cu7spk108hhtjka8j01l@4ax.com>, at 21:02:55 on
>>Tue, 9 Apr 2024, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
>>remarked:
>>>On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 17:31:24 +0100, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What cities are found between Cardiff (in the south) and Edinburgh (in
>>>>the north).
>>>>
>>>>You know one of the three answers.
>>>
>>>Assuming you only want the pointless ones, my guesses would be Lisburn,
>>>Douglas and St Asaph.
>>
>>None of those, it was Ely (hurrah!) Chelmsford, and one other which I've
>>now forgotten (Norwich maybe).
>
>That surprises me, because Ely is rarely pointless. Maybe people were
>disregarding it because they think it's further south.

It's an hour due north of London (by train, about 1.5hr by car) and I
think Cardiff is pretty much due west.

Ely isn't that far south of Peterborough which is famously just north of
Wolverhampton. Ely is due east of Coventry.

>Ditto Chelmsford.

Southend is due east of London, and Chelmsford about half an hour north
(by road)

>Mark

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On 10/04/2024 12:47, AnthonyL wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:44:25 +0100, Mark Goodge
> <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:22:48 +0100, ColinR <rail@greystane.shetland.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/04/2024 08:10, Roland Perry wrote:
>>
>>>> St Davids is too well known as a pub-quiz answer to be "pointless".
>>>> That's part of the joy of the programme, the answers need to be better
>>>> than that.
>>>
>>> Just looked at iPlayer - Roland is partially correct, the first board of
>>> three pointless answers included Ely. However, there were two other
>>> boards with pointless answers, a total of 9 pointless answers:
>>> Chelmsford, Colchester, Ely, Lichfield, Milton Keynes, Ripon,
>>> Southend-on-sea, St Albans and Westminster. Lots from NI were single
>>> points as was either St Asaph or St Davids.
>>
>> OK, so I still got one. Lichfield is the one that everybody forgets. It's
>> not a location that has any other claim to fame (unlike St Davids), and nor
>> is it among the outliers (eg, in NI) that geography nerds make a point of
>> memorising.
>>
>
> Lichfield has an unmissable transmitter and a rather nice cathedral.

It's the aerials which are unmissable not the transmitter!

>
> Whilst I knew Southend was a (newly formed) city I'd have been hard
> pressed to decide whether it was North or South of Cardiff.
>
> I do find saying Milton Keynes City somewhat difficult.
>
>