Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health? So far I have seen
only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
data, though I had to request it.

These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
"busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
leave"!

Do doctors fear competition given the My Health data can be accessed
by any other doctor? Unlikely, because patient data is shared within
a clinic.
Maybe they don't want other doctors at other clinics pinching their
patients.

Same for hospitals and outpatients?

I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health, so one has to
specifically request no upload.

Can I go back and request past info be uploaded? A visit to a
hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
like on MyHealth.

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?

Nope.

> So far I have seen
> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
> data, though I had to request it.

> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
> leave"!

Dont get that with mine.

> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed by
> any other doctor?

Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap to
implement.

> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.

But there is no competition within it.

> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
> patients.

Not possible.

> Same for hospitals and outpatients?

> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,

Yes.

> so one has to specifically request no upload.

Yes.

> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?

Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.

> A visit to a
> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
> like on MyHealth.

It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.

On Sat, 04 Nov 2023 10:31:04 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>
>Nope.
>
>> So far I have seen
>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
>> data, though I had to request it.
>
>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
>> leave"!
>
>Dont get that with mine.
>
>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed by
>> any other doctor?
>
>Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap to
>implement.
>
>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>
>But there is no competition within it.
>
>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
>> patients.
>
>Not possible.
>
>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>
>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>
>Yes.
>
>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>
>Yes.
>
>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>
>Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>
>> A visit to a
>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
>> like on MyHealth.
>
>It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.

Well, then the system is flawed!
My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
was meant to prevent this.
The hospitals have their own databases, each with a different one it
seems. Wadda load of crap.

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?

>> Nope.

>>> So far I have seen
>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
>>> data, though I had to request it.

>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
>>> leave"!

>> Dont get that with mine.

>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed by
>>> any other doctor?

>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap to
>> implement.

>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.

>> But there is no competition within it.

>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
>>> patients.

>> Not possible.

>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?

>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,

>> Yes.

>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.

>> Yes.

>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?

>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.

>>> A visit to a
>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
>>> like on MyHealth.

>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.

> Well, then the system is flawed!

That's inevitable with any system like that.

> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
> was meant to prevent this.

Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.

> The hospitals have their own databases,

Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is inevitable.

> each with a different one it seems.

That is complete bullshit.

> Wadda load of crap.

Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
hospital.

That will see them get their act into gear for sure.

On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 06:21:32 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>
>>> Nope.
>
>>>> So far I have seen
>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>
>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
>>>> leave"!
>
>>> Dont get that with mine.
>
>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed by
>>>> any other doctor?
>
>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap to
>>> implement.
>
>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>
>>> But there is no competition within it.
>
>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
>>>> patients.
>
>>> Not possible.
>
>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>
>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>
>>> Yes.
>
>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>
>>> Yes.
>
>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>
>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>
>>>> A visit to a
>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
>>>> like on MyHealth.
>
>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>
>> Well, then the system is flawed!
>
>That's inevitable with any system like that.
>
>> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
>> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
>> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
>> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
>> was meant to prevent this.
>
>Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
>you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
>
>> The hospitals have their own databases,
>
>Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is inevitable.
>
>> each with a different one it seems.
>
>That is complete bullshit.

No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
scintilla of bullshit in it.
Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular, grouped,
home Care/Nursing homes affiliations, and they have there own computer
systems, designed and installed by this/that IT firm. No hospital
wants to trash their system & join another because of the cost
involved.
Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems were hacked
because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
I rest my case, and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit
epithet.
>
>> Wadda load of crap.
>
>Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
>hospital.
>
>That will see them get their act into gear for sure.

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>
>>>> Nope.
>>
>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>
>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
>>>>> leave"!
>>
>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>
>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed
>>>>> by
>>>>> any other doctor?
>>
>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap
>>>> to
>>>> implement.
>>
>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>
>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>
>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
>>>>> patients.
>>
>>>> Not possible.
>>
>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>
>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>
>>>> Yes.
>>
>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>
>>>> Yes.
>>
>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>
>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>
>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>
>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>>
>>> Well, then the system is flawed!
>>
>> That's inevitable with any system like that.
>>
>>> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
>>> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
>>> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
>>> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
>>> was meant to prevent this.
>>
>> Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
>> you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
>>
>>> The hospitals have their own databases,
>>
>> Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is inevitable.
>>
>>> each with a different one it seems.
>>
>> That is complete bullshit.

> No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
> scintilla of bullshit in it.

It is in fact complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.

> Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular,

Doesnt mean that every single govt base hospital
has had its own personal database designed from
the ground up just for them, fuckwit.

> grouped, home Care/Nursing homes affiliations,and they have there own
> computer systems,designed and installed by this/that IT firm.

You are just plain wrong on the designed.

> No hospital wants to trash their system & joinanother because of the
> cost involved.

Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
you have never ever had a fucking clue about
anything at all, ever, let along database design.

It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.

> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?

Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
their own personal despoke database designed for them.

> I rest my case,

You never had one.

> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.

I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.

>>> Wadda load of crap.
>>
>> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
>> hospital.
>>
>> That will see them get their act into gear for sure.

On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 11:14:43 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
>>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
>>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>>
>>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
>>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
>>>>>> leave"!
>>>
>>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>>
>>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> any other doctor?
>>>
>>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap
>>>>> to
>>>>> implement.
>>>
>>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>>
>>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>>
>>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
>>>>>> patients.
>>>
>>>>> Not possible.
>>>
>>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>>
>>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>>
>>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>>
>>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be centralized,
>>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>>
>>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>>>
>>>> Well, then the system is flawed!
>>>
>>> That's inevitable with any system like that.
>>>
>>>> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
>>>> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
>>>> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
>>>> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
>>>> was meant to prevent this.
>>>
>>> Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
>>> you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
>>>
>>>> The hospitals have their own databases,
>>>
>>> Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is inevitable.
>>>
>>>> each with a different one it seems.
>>>
>>> That is complete bullshit.
>
>> No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
>> scintilla of bullshit in it.
>
>It is in fact complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>
>> Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular,
>
>Doesnt mean that every single govt base hospital
>has had its own personal database designed from
>the ground up just for them, fuckwit.
>
>> grouped, home Care/Nursing homes affiliations,and they have there own
>> computer systems,designed and installed by this/that IT firm.
>
>You are just plain wrong on the designed.
>
>> No hospital wants to trash their system & joinanother because of the
>> cost involved.
>
>Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>anything at all, ever, let along database design.

Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
So I DO know something of them!

>
>It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.

Yet they DO. At least in a particular group. I happen to know a firm
of IT database designers, and this is their game.
>
>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>
>Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>their own personal despoke database designed for them.

Vide Supra; and stop throwing up smokescreens.
>
>> I rest my case,
>
>You never had one.

I did & do.
>
>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>
>I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.

OK, done that....now what!
>
>>>> Wadda load of crap.
>>>
>>> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
>>> hospital.
>>>
>>> That will see them get their act into gear for sure.

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>>>
>>>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
>>>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
>>>>>>> leave"!
>>>>
>>>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> any other doctor?
>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> implement.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>>>
>>>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
>>>>>>> patients.
>>>>
>>>>>> Not possible.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>>>
>>>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>>>
>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>
>>>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>>>
>>>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be
>>>>>>> centralized,
>>>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>>>
>>>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>>>>
>>>>> Well, then the system is flawed!
>>>>
>>>> That's inevitable with any system like that.
>>>>
>>>>> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
>>>>> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
>>>>> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
>>>>> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
>>>>> was meant to prevent this.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
>>>> you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
>>>>
>>>>> The hospitals have their own databases,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is inevitable.
>>>>
>>>>> each with a different one it seems.
>>>>
>>>> That is complete bullshit.
>>
>>> No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
>>> scintilla of bullshit in it.
>>
>> It is in fact complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>
>>> Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular,
>>
>> Doesnt mean that every single govt base hospital
>> has had its own personal database designed from
>> the ground up just for them, fuckwit.
>>
>>> grouped, home Care/Nursing homes affiliations,and they have there own
>>> computer systems,designed and installed by this/that IT firm.
>>
>> You are just plain wrong on the designed.
>>
>>> No hospital wants to trash their system & joinanother because of the
>>> cost involved.
>>
>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.

> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
> So I DO know something of them!

But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.

>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.

> Yet they DO.

Bullshit they do.

> At least in a particular group.

Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.

> I happen to know a firm of IT database designers,

But you dont actually have a fucking clue about what they actually do.

> and this is their game.

Like hell it is with every single individual hospital.

>>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>>
>> Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>> their own personal despoke database designed for them.

> Vide Supra;

Completely useless as always with your shit, wog boy.

> and stop throwing up smokescreens.

You wouldnt know what a real smokescreen
was if it bit you on your lard arse, wog boy.

>>> I rest my case,

>> You never had one.

> I did & do.

Only your own personal nut case.

>>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.

>> I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.

> OK, done that....now what!

Time to set fire to yourself outside your local hospital, wog boy.

>>>>> Wadda load of crap.
>>>>
>>>> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
>>>> hospital.
>>>>
>>>> That will see them get their act into gear for sure.

On Mon, 06 Nov 2023 16:15:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because they're
>>>>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
>>>>>>>> leave"!
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be accessed
>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> any other doctor?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt cheap
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> implement.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching their
>>>>>>>> patients.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be
>>>>>>>> centralized,
>>>>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, then the system is flawed!
>>>>>
>>>>> That's inevitable with any system like that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her age
>>>>>> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
>>>>>> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which creates
>>>>>> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
>>>>>> was meant to prevent this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
>>>>> you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The hospitals have their own databases,
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is inevitable.
>>>>>
>>>>>> each with a different one it seems.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is complete bullshit.
>>>
>>>> No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
>>>> scintilla of bullshit in it.
>>>
>>> It is in fact complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>>
>>>> Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular,
>>>
>>> Doesnt mean that every single govt base hospital
>>> has had its own personal database designed from
>>> the ground up just for them, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> grouped, home Care/Nursing homes affiliations,and they have there own
>>>> computer systems,designed and installed by this/that IT firm.
>>>
>>> You are just plain wrong on the designed.
>>>
>>>> No hospital wants to trash their system & joinanother because of the
>>>> cost involved.

And MyHealth was supposed to help here.
>>>
>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>
>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>> So I DO know something of them!
>
>But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.

You are appallingly negative.
Dinosaur! Austropithicine!
>
>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>
>> Yet they DO.
>
>Bullshit they do.
>
>> At least in a particular group.
>
>Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.

It's an individual GROUP!

>
>> I happen to know a firm of IT database designers,
>
>But you dont actually have a fucking clue about what they actually do.
>
>> and this is their game.
>
>Like hell it is with every single individual hospital.
>
>>>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>>>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>>>
>>> Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>>> their own personal despoke database designed for them.
>
>> Vide Supra;
>
>Completely useless as always with your shit, wog boy.

>
>> and stop throwing up smokescreens.
>
>You wouldnt know what a real smokescreen
>was if it bit you on your lard arse, wog boy.
>
>>>> I rest my case,
>
>>> You never had one.
>
>> I did & do.
>
>Only your own personal nut case.
>
>>>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>
>>> I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.
>
>> OK, done that....now what!
>
>Time to set fire to yourself outside your local hospital, wog boy.
>
>>>>>> Wadda load of crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your nearest
>>>>> hospital.

How rude! Why not give us a demo as a test?
>>>>>
>>>>> That will see them get their act into gear for sure.

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because
>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
>>>>>>>>> leave"!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be
>>>>>>>>> accessed
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> any other doctor?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt
>>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> implement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching
>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> patients.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>>>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be
>>>>>>>>> centralized,
>>>>>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, then the system is flawed!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's inevitable with any system like that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her
>>>>>>> age
>>>>>>> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
>>>>>>> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which
>>>>>>> creates
>>>>>>> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
>>>>>>> was meant to prevent this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
>>>>>> you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The hospitals have their own databases,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is
>>>>>> inevitable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> each with a different one it seems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is complete bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
>>>>> scintilla of bullshit in it.
>>>>
>>>> It is in fact complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>>>
>>>>> Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular,
>>>>
>>>> Doesnt mean that every single govt base hospital
>>>> has had its own personal database designed from
>>>> the ground up just for them, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> grouped, home Care/Nursing homes affiliations,and they have there
>>>>> own
>>>>> computer systems,designed and installed by this/that IT firm.
>>>>
>>>> You are just plain wrong on the designed.
>>>>
>>>>> No hospital wants to trash their system & joinanother because of the
>>>>> cost involved.

> And MyHealth was supposed to help here.

Nope, MyHealth is actually about having a single database
for MEDICAL RECORDS which everyone involved in the
medical industry and those who have used the medical
industry at any time have access to if they want to do that.

Nothing whatever to do with the vast amounts of other
data that any hospital needs to have, most obviously
with appointments, employment records, medical supplys,
general hospital maintenance and construction etc.

>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>>
>>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>>> So I DO know something of them!
>>
>> But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
>>
>>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>>
>>> Yet they DO.
>>
>> Bullshit they do.
>>
>>> At least in a particular group.
>>
>> Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>
> It's an individual GROUP!

Which just happens to include the entire collection
of govt hospitals in the entire fucking state, stupid.

>>> I happen to know a firm of IT database designers,
>>
>> But you dont actually have a fucking clue about what they actually do.
>>
>>> and this is their game.
>>
>> Like hell it is with every single individual hospital.
>>
>>>>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>>>>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>>>>
>>>> Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>>>> their own personal despoke database designed for them.
>>
>>> Vide Supra;
>>
>> Completely useless as always with your shit, wog boy.
>>
>>> and stop throwing up smokescreens.
>>
>> You wouldnt know what a real smokescreen
>> was if it bit you on your lard arse, wog boy.
>>
>>>>> I rest my case,
>>
>>>> You never had one.
>>
>>> I did & do.
>>
>> Only your own personal nut case.
>>
>>>>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>>
>>>> I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.
>>
>>> OK, done that....now what!
>>
>> Time to set fire to yourself outside your local hospital, wog boy.
>>
>>>>>>> Wadda load of crap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your
>>>>>> nearest
>>>>>> hospital.
>
> How rude! Why not give us a demo as a test?

On Wed, 08 Nov 2023 15:54:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>>>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I
>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because
>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even "maternity
>>>>>>>>>> leave"!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be
>>>>>>>>>> accessed
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> any other doctor?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt
>>>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> implement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> patients.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>>>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>>>>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be
>>>>>>>>>> centralized,
>>>>>>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, then the system is flawed!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's inevitable with any system like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her
>>>>>>>> age
>>>>>>>> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time she's
>>>>>>>> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which
>>>>>>>> creates
>>>>>>>> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought MyHealth
>>>>>>>> was meant to prevent this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
>>>>>>> you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The hospitals have their own databases,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is
>>>>>>> inevitable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> each with a different one it seems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is complete bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
>>>>>> scintilla of bullshit in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is in fact complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular,
>>>>>
>>>>> Doesnt mean that every single govt base hospital
>>>>> has had its own personal database designed from
>>>>> the ground up just for them, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> grouped, home Care/Nursing homes affiliations,and they have there
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> computer systems,designed and installed by this/that IT firm.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are just plain wrong on the designed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> No hospital wants to trash their system & joinanother because of the
>>>>>> cost involved.
>
>> And MyHealth was supposed to help here.
>
>Nope, MyHealth is actually about having a single database
>for MEDICAL RECORDS which everyone involved in the
>medical industry and those who have used the medical
>industry at any time have access to if they want to do that.
>
>Nothing whatever to do with the vast amounts of other
>data that any hospital needs to have, most obviously
>with appointments, employment records, medical supplys,
>general hospital maintenance and construction etc.

Who gives a rat's bum about appointments? I'm talking about static
data on history, Neanderthal. For example (since ewe need one), if
you're discovered one early morning face down in a Red-light district
gutter, then a short application to a central database would reveal
your whole sordid medical history resulting in a life-saving injection
of the latest penicillins. No appointment necessary.
>
>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>>>
>>>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>>>> So I DO know something of them!
>>>
>>> But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
>>>
>>>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>>>
>>>> Yet they DO.
>>>
>>> Bullshit they do.
>>>
>>>> At least in a particular group.
>>>
>>> Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>>
>> It's an individual GROUP!
>
>Which just happens to include the entire collection
>of govt hospitals in the entire fucking state, stupid.

I have actually BEEN in a hospital and it had its own system. Even
though the admitting nurse didn't know how to access it.
>
>>>> I happen to know a firm of IT database designers,
>>>
>>> But you dont actually have a fucking clue about what they actually do.
>>>
>>>> and this is their game.
>>>
>>> Like hell it is with every single individual hospital.
>>>
>>>>>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>>>>>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>>>>>
>>>>> Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>>>>> their own personal despoke database designed for them.
>>>
>>>> Vide Supra;
>>>
>>> Completely useless as always with your shit, wog boy.
>>>
>>>> and stop throwing up smokescreens.
>>>
>>> You wouldnt know what a real smokescreen
>>> was if it bit you on your lard arse, wog boy.
>>>
>>>>>> I rest my case,
>>>
>>>>> You never had one.
>>>
>>>> I did & do.
>>>
>>> Only your own personal nut case.
>>>
>>>>>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>>>
>>>>> I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.
>>>
>>>> OK, done that....now what!
>>>
>>> Time to set fire to yourself outside your local hospital, wog boy.
>>>
>>>>>>>> Wadda load of crap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your
>>>>>>> nearest
>>>>>>> hospital.
>>
>> How rude! Why not give us a demo as a test?
>
>Even you should be able to work out how to do that
>for yourself, if anyone is actually stupid enough to
>lend you a seeing eye dog, given that you have
>obviously wanked yourself completely blind.
>
>>>>>>> That will see them get their act into gear for sure.

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>>>>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last
>>>>>>>>>>> checkup I
>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did
>>>>>>>>>>> upload
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because
>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even
>>>>>>>>>>> "maternity
>>>>>>>>>>> leave"!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be
>>>>>>>>>>> accessed
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> any other doctor?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt
>>>>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> implement.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching
>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>> patients.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not possible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>>>>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>>>>>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be
>>>>>>>>>>> centralized,
>>>>>>>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, then the system is flawed!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's inevitable with any system like that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her
>>>>>>>>> age
>>>>>>>>> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time
>>>>>>>>> she's
>>>>>>>>> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which
>>>>>>>>> creates
>>>>>>>>> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought
>>>>>>>>> MyHealth
>>>>>>>>> was meant to prevent this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
>>>>>>>> you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The hospitals have their own databases,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is
>>>>>>>> inevitable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> each with a different one it seems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is complete bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
>>>>>>> scintilla of bullshit in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is in fact complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doesnt mean that every single govt base hospital
>>>>>> has had its own personal database designed from
>>>>>> the ground up just for them, fuckwit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> grouped, home Care/Nursing homes affiliations,and they have there
>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>> computer systems,designed and installed by this/that IT firm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are just plain wrong on the designed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No hospital wants to trash their system & joinanother because of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> cost involved.
>>
>>> And MyHealth was supposed to help here.
>>
>> Nope, MyHealth is actually about having a single database
>> for MEDICAL RECORDS which everyone involved in the
>> medical industry and those who have used the medical
>> industry at any time have access to if they want to do that.
>>
>> Nothing whatever to do with the vast amounts of other
>> data that any hospital needs to have, most obviously
>> with appointments, employment records, medical supplys,
>> general hospital maintenance and construction etc.

> Who gives a rat's bum about appointments?

Obviously the hospital database system has to, stupid.

> I'm talking about static data on history,

But are so stupid that you can't manage to work out
that hospital database systems have to handle a hell
of a lot more than just static data on history, fuckwit.

>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>>>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>>>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>>>>
>>>>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>>>>> So I DO know something of them!
>>>>
>>>> But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
>>>>
>>>>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>>>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>>> Yet they DO.
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit they do.
>>>>
>>>>> At least in a particular group.
>>>>
>>>> Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>>>
>>> It's an individual GROUP!
>>
>> Which just happens to include the entire collection
>> of govt hospitals in the entire fucking state, stupid.
>
> I have actually BEEN in a hospital and it had its own system.

Peter Jason wrote:
> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health? So far I have seen
> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last checkup I had
> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did upload the
> data, though I had to request it.
>

Mine has blood tests, which were ordered by both public hospital and
local GP. But only seems to go back to 2020, although the system began
in 2016 as far as I know.

On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 07:35:12 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>>>>>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last
>>>>>>>>>>>> checkup I
>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did
>>>>>>>>>>>> upload
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because
>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even
>>>>>>>>>>>> "maternity
>>>>>>>>>>>> leave"!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be
>>>>>>>>>>>> accessed
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> any other doctor?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt
>>>>>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> implement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching
>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>> patients.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not possible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>>>>>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>>>>>>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be
>>>>>>>>>>>> centralized,
>>>>>>>>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, then the system is flawed!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's inevitable with any system like that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My 92yo mother's niece has a constellation of ailments due to her
>>>>>>>>>> age
>>>>>>>>>> and has to go through the rigmarole of disclosure every time
>>>>>>>>>> she's
>>>>>>>>>> dumped into this-and-that clinic/specialist/rehab etc, which
>>>>>>>>>> creates
>>>>>>>>>> confusion if she cannot remember tiny details. I thought
>>>>>>>>>> MyHealth
>>>>>>>>>> was meant to prevent this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, but given the cost of being part of it, and the fact that
>>>>>>>>> you are free to not be part of that, that result is inevitable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The hospitals have their own databases,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, but given how things were done pre MyHealth, that is
>>>>>>>>> inevitable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> each with a different one it seems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is complete bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, it is not bullshit. Not even slightly bullshit. There's not a
>>>>>>>> scintilla of bullshit in it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is in fact complete and utter mindless pig ignorant bullshit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hospitals come in all shapes and sizes, religious, secular,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doesnt mean that every single govt base hospital
>>>>>>> has had its own personal database designed from
>>>>>>> the ground up just for them, fuckwit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> grouped, home Care/Nursing homes affiliations,and they have there
>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>> computer systems,designed and installed by this/that IT firm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are just plain wrong on the designed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No hospital wants to trash their system & joinanother because of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> cost involved.
>>>
>>>> And MyHealth was supposed to help here.
>>>
>>> Nope, MyHealth is actually about having a single database
>>> for MEDICAL RECORDS which everyone involved in the
>>> medical industry and those who have used the medical
>>> industry at any time have access to if they want to do that.
>>>
>>> Nothing whatever to do with the vast amounts of other
>>> data that any hospital needs to have, most obviously
>>> with appointments, employment records, medical supplys,
>>> general hospital maintenance and construction etc.
>
>> Who gives a rat's bum about appointments?
>
>Obviously the hospital database system has to, stupid.
>
>> I'm talking about static data on history,
>
>But are so stupid that you can't manage to work out
>that hospital database systems have to handle a hell
>of a lot more than just static data on history, fuckwit.
>
>>>>>>> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof that
>>>>>>> you have never ever had a fucking clue about
>>>>>>> anything at all, ever, let along database design.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tsk! I use my own designed database based on MSoft Access
>>>>>> So I DO know something of them!
>>>>>
>>>>> But you dont have a fucking clue about how hospitals do theirs.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would cost a fucking sight more to have their own personal
>>>>>>> bespoke design for each individual hospital, fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet they DO.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit they do.
>>>>>
>>>>>> At least in a particular group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thats not an INDIVIDUAL HOSPITAL, fuckwit.
>>>>
>>>> It's an individual GROUP!
>>>
>>> Which just happens to include the entire collection
>>> of govt hospitals in the entire fucking state, stupid.
>>
>> I have actually BEEN in a hospital and it had its own system.
>
>You have no fucking idea if it did or not.
>
>>>>>> I happen to know a firm of IT database designers,
>>>>>
>>>>> But you dont actually have a fucking clue about what they actually do.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and this is their game.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like hell it is with every single individual hospital.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Christ! Remember the panic when some hospitals' systems werehacked
>>>>>>>> because their Windows XP systems were not upgraded?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Irrelevant to whether each individual hospital ever had
>>>>>>> their own personal despoke database designed for them.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vide Supra;
>>>>>
>>>>> Completely useless as always with your shit, wog boy.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and stop throwing up smokescreens.
>>>>>
>>>>> You wouldnt know what a real smokescreen
>>>>> was if it bit you on your lard arse, wog boy.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I rest my case,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> You never had one.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I did & do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only your own personal nut case.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and I expect you to withdraw, humbly, that bullshit epithet.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I require you to go and fuck yourself, again.
>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, done that....now what!
>>>>>
>>>>> Time to set fire to yourself outside your local hospital, wog boy.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wadda load of crap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself outside your
>>>>>>>>> nearest
>>>>>>>>> hospital.
>>>>
>>>> How rude! Why not give us a demo as a test?
>>>
>>> Even you should be able to work out how to do that
>>> for yourself, if anyone is actually stupid enough to
>>> lend you a seeing eye dog, given that you have
>>> obviously wanked yourself completely blind.
>>>
>>>>>>>>> That will see them get their act into gear for sure.
>
>> Phooey. They'll just upgrade the fire system.
>
>Nope, just hose the remains away.

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last
>>>>>>>>>>>>> checkup I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "maternity
>>>>>>>>>>>>> leave"!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other doctor?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It isnt
>>>>>>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> implement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> patients.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not possible.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of kin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> centralized,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.

I have just checked on that and my hospital does upload to the
MyHealth system, but there is no real information uploaded, just
the name of the doctor involved and the date with one of mine.
And nothing at all with the latest, minor surgery/skin cancer.

The GP has uploaded all the scripts and just stated the
date and doctor's name for the consult that produced
the referral for the minor op in the hospital.

I didnt have to explicitly request any of that be uploaded.

No test results have been uploaded. The recent tests have
been done by a woman who shows up in the GP clinic for
the morning. Not clear who pays her.

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are doctors OBLIGED to upload data to My Health?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far I have seen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only references to vaccinations during covid. The last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> checkup I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to a different doctor at the usual clinic who actually did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upload
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data, though I had to request it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These days one has a "clinic" and less so a doctor because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "busy", "rostered off", "sick", or "on leave" and even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "maternity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leave"!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dont get that with mine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do doctors fear competition given the My Healthdata can be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other doctor?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, they are just taking their time to implement it. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>> isnt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheap
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> implement.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unlikely, because patient data is shared within a clinic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But there is no competition within it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe they don't want other doctors atother clinics pinching
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> patients.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same for hospitals and outpatients?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand there's an "opt-out" clause for My Health,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so one has to specifically request no upload.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I go back and request past info be uploaded?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously only if your doctor's clinic does it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A visit to a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hospital means filling out a form with old data, next of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allergies etc etc etc! Surely all this data should be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> centralized,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like on MyHealth.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is stored by my hospital. Not clear about MyHealth.
>
> I have just checked on that and my hospital does upload to the
> MyHealth system, but there is no real information uploaded, just
> the name of the doctor involved and the date with one of mine.
> And nothing at all with the latest, minor surgery/skin cancer.

> The GP has uploaded all the scripts and just stated the
> date and doctor's name for the consult that produced
> the referral for the minor op in the hospital.

> I didnt have to explicitly request any of that be uploaded.

> No test results have been uploaded. The recent tests have
> been done by a woman who shows up in the GP clinic for
> the morning. Not clear who pays her.

Just checked why that is and that's just because my GP
is a real technohater. A couple of the other GPs in that
surgery do upload them to myhealth but he doesnt yet.
He is all setup to do it but just doesnt. He has started
to do escripts now, so likely it will happen sometime.