File on 4: The Great Replacement (21 September 2023)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gfx08t

Raffaello Pantucci explores the Great Replacement theory fueling
far-right recruitment, and asks if we need to be more open about the
effects of immigration to tackle extremism.

"Sorry, this episode is not currently available"

Quite an interesting programme, but the podcast was removed before I
could download it.

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Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> File on 4: The Great Replacement (21 September 2023)
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gfx08t
>
> Raffaello Pantucci explores the Great Replacement theory fueling
> far-right recruitment, and asks if we need to be more open about the
> effects of immigration to tackle extremism.
>
> "Sorry, this episode is not currently available"
>
> Quite an interesting programme, but the podcast was removed before I
> could download it.
>

It is on BBC Sounds, under the Radio 4 schedule. But it was broadcast on
Tuesday 19th, not 21st.

On 23/09/2023 18:32, Tweed wrote:
> Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>> File on 4: The Great Replacement (21 September 2023)
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gfx08t
>>
>> Raffaello Pantucci explores the Great Replacement theory fueling
>> far-right recruitment, and asks if we need to be more open about the
>> effects of immigration to tackle extremism.
>>
>> "Sorry, this episode is not currently available"
>>
>> Quite an interesting programme, but the podcast was removed before I
>> could download it.

> It is on BBC Sounds, under the Radio 4 schedule. But it was broadcast on
> Tuesday 19th, not 21st.

H'mm. 21st is the podcast date. The R4 edition on BBC Sounds can't be
saved as an MP3 AFAIK. I wonder why they removed the podcast? Has it
been "edited"?

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On 24/09/2023 12:12, Max Demian wrote:
> On 23/09/2023 18:32, Tweed wrote:
>> It is on BBC Sounds, under the Radio 4 schedule. But it was broadcast on
>> Tuesday 19th, not 21st.
>
> H'mm. 21st is the podcast date. The R4 edition on BBC Sounds can't be
> saved as an MP3 AFAIK. I wonder why they removed the podcast? Has it
> been "edited"?
>
It is now not listed on BBC sounds either. The newest programme is dated
the 12th Setember and is about problems with ballet schools.

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John.

In message <uep5jk$1atav$1@dont-email.me> at Sun, 24 Sep 2023 12:12:49,
Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> writes
[]
>H'mm. 21st is the podcast date. The R4 edition on BBC Sounds can't be
>saved as an MP3 AFAIK. I wonder why they removed the podcast? Has it
>been "edited"?
>
At risk of drawing their attention to the fact, I've generally found
yt-dlp works on BBC podcasts, if that's URLs of the form with a string
of characters at the end.
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John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 24/09/2023 12:12, Max Demian wrote:
>> On 23/09/2023 18:32, Tweed wrote:
>>> It is on BBC Sounds, under the Radio 4 schedule. But it was broadcast on
>>> Tuesday 19th, not 21st.
>>
>> H'mm. 21st is the podcast date. The R4 edition on BBC Sounds can't be
>> saved as an MP3 AFAIK. I wonder why they removed the podcast? Has it
>> been "edited"?
>>
> It is now not listed on BBC sounds either. The newest programme is dated
> the 12th Setember and is about problems with ballet schools.
>

Seems to be an indexing error. It’s still on Sounds. Go to the Radio4
schedule for 19th Sept

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n8kf

On 24/09/2023 13:54, Tweed wrote:
> John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 24/09/2023 12:12, Max Demian wrote:
>>> On 23/09/2023 18:32, Tweed wrote:
>>>> It is on BBC Sounds, under the Radio 4 schedule. But it was broadcast on
>>>> Tuesday 19th, not 21st.
>>>
>>> H'mm. 21st is the podcast date. The R4 edition on BBC Sounds can't be
>>> saved as an MP3 AFAIK. I wonder why they removed the podcast? Has it
>>> been "edited"?
>>>
>> It is now not listed on BBC sounds either. The newest programme is dated
>> the 12th Setember and is about problems with ballet schools.
>>
>
> Seems to be an indexing error. It’s still on Sounds. Go to the Radio4
> schedule for 19th Sept
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n8kf
>
Only if you use the direct URL. It does not show on the BBC Sounds home
page for the 19th September. The URL you give links to a programme
released in June 2023.

"Released On: 27 Jun 2023
Available for over a year"

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John.

On 24/09/2023 13:54, Tweed wrote:
> Seems to be an indexing error. It’s still on Sounds. Go to the Radio4
> schedule for 19th Sept
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n8kf
>
It is also missing on the release date at the bottom of that page if I
check the File on 4 index page.

The only way to access it is to use the URL you give.

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John.

John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 24/09/2023 13:54, Tweed wrote:
>> John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> On 24/09/2023 12:12, Max Demian wrote:
>>>> On 23/09/2023 18:32, Tweed wrote:
>>>>> It is on BBC Sounds, under the Radio 4 schedule. But it was broadcast on
>>>>> Tuesday 19th, not 21st.
>>>>
>>>> H'mm. 21st is the podcast date. The R4 edition on BBC Sounds can't be
>>>> saved as an MP3 AFAIK. I wonder why they removed the podcast? Has it
>>>> been "edited"?
>>>>
>>> It is now not listed on BBC sounds either. The newest programme is dated
>>> the 12th Setember and is about problems with ballet schools.
>>>
>>
>> Seems to be an indexing error. It’s still on Sounds. Go to the Radio4
>> schedule for 19th Sept
>>
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n8kf
>>
> Only if you use the direct URL. It does not show on the BBC Sounds home
> page for the 19th September. The URL you give links to a programme
> released in June 2023.
>
> "Released On: 27 Jun 2023
> Available for over a year"
>

How do you think I got the URL? I used Sounds on my iPad, went to the Radio
4 schedule and scrolled to Tuesday 19th. The programme is in the schedule
at 2000. I selected that, checked it played, and then used the share button
to get the URL. Incidentally it is also on at 1700 today Sunday. It’s
showing as released on June 2023 because it’s a repeat.

On 24/09/2023 16:19, Tweed wrote:
> John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On 24/09/2023 13:54, Tweed wrote:
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n8kf
>>>
>> Only if you use the direct URL. It does not show on the BBC Sounds home
>> page for the 19th September. The URL you give links to a programme
>> released in June 2023.
>>
>> "Released On: 27 Jun 2023
>> Available for over a year"
>>
>
> How do you think I got the URL? I used Sounds on my iPad, went to the Radio
> 4 schedule and scrolled to Tuesday 19th. The programme is in the schedule
> at 2000. I selected that, checked it played, and then used the share button
> to get the URL. Incidentally it is also on at 1700 today Sunday. It’s
> showing as released on June 2023 because it’s a repeat.
>
When I opened the Sounds webpage using both Firefox and Chrome under
Windows 10 22H2, it was and still is not present, either on the 27th
June( an entry which does not exist) or 19th September (Ditto). All the
other 494 File on 4 episodes seem to be in the list, though I didn't
scroll past the original release date. Those are the only missing entries.

You may get different results if you are using an app, I don't and can't
be bothered installing one to check.

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Tciao for Now!

John.

John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 24/09/2023 16:19, Tweed wrote:
>> John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> On 24/09/2023 13:54, Tweed wrote:
>>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n8kf
>>>>
>>> Only if you use the direct URL. It does not show on the BBC Sounds home
>>> page for the 19th September. The URL you give links to a programme
>>> released in June 2023.
>>>
>>> "Released On: 27 Jun 2023
>>> Available for over a year"
>>>
>>
>> How do you think I got the URL? I used Sounds on my iPad, went to the Radio
>> 4 schedule and scrolled to Tuesday 19th. The programme is in the schedule
>> at 2000. I selected that, checked it played, and then used the share button
>> to get the URL. Incidentally it is also on at 1700 today Sunday. It’s
>> showing as released on June 2023 because it’s a repeat.
>>
> When I opened the Sounds webpage using both Firefox and Chrome under
> Windows 10 22H2, it was and still is not present, either on the 27th
> June( an entry which does not exist) or 19th September (Ditto). All the
> other 494 File on 4 episodes seem to be in the list, though I didn't
> scroll past the original release date. Those are the only missing entries.
>
> You may get different results if you are using an app, I don't and can't
> be bothered installing one to check.
>

It’s just a technical error, not a conspiracy.

Probably a letter from somebody's lawyer. Brian

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"Max Demian" <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> File on 4: The Great Replacement (21 September 2023)
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gfx08t
>
> Raffaello Pantucci explores the Great Replacement theory fueling far-right
> recruitment, and asks if we need to be more open about the effects of
> immigration to tackle extremism.
>
> "Sorry, this episode is not currently available"
>
> Quite an interesting programme, but the podcast was removed before I could
> download it.
>
> --
> Max Demian

Podcasts are often longer I find.
I think they have a battle going on between streaming and podcasts. I'm not
sure why, as one would imagine the same file could be used for both
entities. If there is a program that has no podcast, I turn all system
sounds off, get virtual recorder going then play it on the sounds web page
or use Lady A to play it using the headphone socket into line in on
goldwave, which is even easier. Some sounds links one can deduce the actual
file name and download it, but the BBC are getting wise to that ploy. Its
all gathering of data, I'd imagine.
Brian

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"Max Demian" <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> On 23/09/2023 18:32, Tweed wrote:
>> Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>>> File on 4: The Great Replacement (21 September 2023)
>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gfx08t
>>>
>>> Raffaello Pantucci explores the Great Replacement theory fueling
>>> far-right recruitment, and asks if we need to be more open about the
>>> effects of immigration to tackle extremism.
>>>
>>> "Sorry, this episode is not currently available"
>>>
>>> Quite an interesting programme, but the podcast was removed before I
>>> could download it.
>
>> It is on BBC Sounds, under the Radio 4 schedule. But it was broadcast on
>> Tuesday 19th, not 21st.
>
> H'mm. 21st is the podcast date. The R4 edition on BBC Sounds can't be
> saved as an MP3 AFAIK. I wonder why they removed the podcast? Has it been
> "edited"?
>
> --
> Max Demian
>

Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:

> John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > On 24/09/2023 16:19, Tweed wrote:
> >> John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>> On 24/09/2023 13:54, Tweed wrote:
> >>>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001n8kf
> >>>>
> >>> Only if you use the direct URL. It does not show on the BBC Sounds home
> >>> page for the 19th September. The URL you give links to a programme
> >>> released in June 2023.
> >>>
> >>> "Released On: 27 Jun 2023
> >>> Available for over a year"
> >>>
> >>
> >> How do you think I got the URL? I used Sounds on my iPad, went to the Radio
> >> 4 schedule and scrolled to Tuesday 19th. The programme is in the schedule
> >> at 2000. I selected that, checked it played, and then used the share button
> >> to get the URL. Incidentally it is also on at 1700 today Sunday. It’s
> >> showing as released on June 2023 because it’s a repeat.
> >>
> > When I opened the Sounds webpage using both Firefox and Chrome under
> > Windows 10 22H2, it was and still is not present, either on the 27th
> > June( an entry which does not exist) or 19th September (Ditto). All the
> > other 494 File on 4 episodes seem to be in the list, though I didn't
> > scroll past the original release date. Those are the only missing entries.
> >
> > You may get different results if you are using an app, I don't and can't
> > be bothered installing one to check.
> >
>
> It’s just a technical error, not a conspiracy.

....or do they want to collect the identities of everyone who has
listened to it?

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On 23/09/2023 18:21, Max Demian wrote:
> File on 4: The Great Replacement (21 September 2023)
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gfx08t
>
> Raffaello Pantucci explores the Great Replacement theory fueling
> far-right recruitment, and asks if we need to be more open about the
> effects of immigration to tackle extremism.
>
> "Sorry, this episode is not currently available"
>
> Quite an interesting programme, but the podcast was removed before I
> could download it.

Reply from BBC: "I found that we don’t have the rights to make this
episode available as a podcast which is why it is only available to
stream via the website but available for streaming and downloading via
the app."

So they didn't realise this when they first put it up as a podcast.

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