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Re: Mercedes van driver jailed for killing schoolgirl Lexi McDavid who was getting off a bus in Huyton, Merseyside

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From: jnugent@mail.com (JNugent)
Newsgroups: uk.rec.cycling
Subject: Re: Mercedes van driver jailed for killing schoolgirl Lexi McDavid
who was getting off a bus in Huyton, Merseyside
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2023 13:51:13 +0000
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 by: JNugent - Sun, 3 Dec 2023 13:51 UTC

On 03/12/2023 12:30 pm, S Mason wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2023 11:48:46 +0000, JNugent wrote:
>
>> On 03/12/2023 07:39 am, S Mason wrote:
>>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2023 01:07:56 +0000, JNugent wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/12/2023 06:40 pm, S Mason wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2023 17:29:01 +0000, JNugent wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/12/2023 05:06 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First things first...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A: This item is getting to be fairly non-news, in that the reports
>>>>>> date from 3rd November. Why didn't you post it (if post it you had
>>>>>> to)
>>>>>> at the time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> B: How, on this occasion, did you, as a notorious troll, get through
>>>>>> NIN's troll-busting filters?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You've apparently posted about thirty recent other posts,
>>>>>> purportedly to ukrc, none of which got through (the one I'm
>>>>>> responding to was first) and two or three of which presented only
>>>>>> the thread title and the "bad article" description?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A Mercedes van driver who killed a 12-year-old girl as she got off
>>>>>>> a bus has been jailed for causing death by dangerous driving.
>>>>>>> David Pursglove was driving on Princess Drive in Huyton,
>>>>>>> Merseyside, when the accident happened. His van hit 12-year-old
>>>>>>> Lexi McDavid from Huyton, who was given CPR by passengers but died
>>>>>>> shortly after being admitted to Alder Hey Children's Hospital.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HOW?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Assuming the bus was at the kerb to let passengers alight (quite
>>>>>> normal), how did the van hit her? Was Pursglove travelling along the
>>>>>> FOOTway, like chavs on chav-bikes do? We'll probably never know.
>>>>>> Certainly not from this report at least.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But there's always the good ol' Liverpool Echo:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [Give a me a second...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> QUOTE:
>>>>>> Angela Conlan, prosecuting, told the court how Lexi, 12, had
>>>>>> travelled on a bus back from Broughton Hall Catholic High School in
>>>>>> West Derby. She said the bus pulled in and Lexi got off. Ms Conlan
>>>>>> said that CCTV footage showed Lexi run in front of the bus to cross
>>>>>> the road., [sic] and "as she entered the second lane [of traffic]
>>>>>> she was hit by a van being driven by the defendant".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lexi suffered fatal injuries and was taken to Alder Hey Children's
>>>>>> Hospital where she died a short time later. Ms Conlan told the court
>>>>>> that when the defendant was interviewed by the police he believed he
>>>>>> was going around 28mph. However, CCTV footage showed Pursglove was
>>>>>> travelling between 46 and 49mph at the time.
>>>>>> ENDQUOTE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well. that at least explains it. The child ran across the front of
>>>>>> the stationary bus to cross the road (all too common, in my
>>>>>> experience).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Had that been all that went wrong, it's hard to see how the driver
>>>>>> of the van could have been guilty of anything. But Princess Drive is
>>>>>> limited to 30mph (even on the dual carriageway stretch inside the
>>>>>> Liverpool boundary, which is where the accident must have happened,
>>>>>> since that is the only part where there is a "second lane"). And he
>>>>>> was doing a speed measured at a minimum of 46mph.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I remember it, that road used to be a frequent site for the
>>>>>> pre-1974 Liverpool and Bootle Constabulary's white Minivan radar
>>>>>> traps. I've seen a few pulled over along that road (at the northern
>>>>>> end, inside the city boundary). It's a pity if they've been stopped
>>>>>> in favour of a stationary GATSO or something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The 35-year-old, of Moorhey Road, Maghull, has now been sentenced
>>>>>>> for the crash, which happened on June 7, 2022. It took place at
>>>>>>> 3.30pm,
>>>>>>> as Lexi made her way to a friend’s house.
>>>>>>> Pursglove pleaded guilty at an earlier hearing at Liverpool &
>>>>>>> Knowsley Magistrates Court on 3 November this year. On Friday he
>>>>>>> appeared at Liverpool Crown Court and was sentenced to eight months
>>>>>>> in prison. He was also disqualified from driving for two years and
>>>>>>> four months. Detective Sergeant Kurt Timpson from Merseyside
>>>>>>> Police's serious collision investigation unit said: “Our thoughts
>>>>>>> remain very much with Lexi’s parents and the rest of her family at
>>>>>>> this sad time.
>>>>>>> They have been supported by specially trained family liaison
>>>>>>> officers throughout the case. I thank those officers for their
>>>>>>> professionalism and dedication.
>>>>>>> “This has been a very traumatic time for Lexi’s family and I know
>>>>>>> that the incident has affected so many people in the community. I
>>>>>>> would like to thank members of the public who rushed to help Lexi
>>>>>>> that day and who did everything they could to help.
>>>>>>> “I would ask that as drivers, we all reflect on how we use our
>>>>>>> vehicles on the road. Excess speed kills and causes unimaginable
>>>>>>> harm to people who become involved in road crashes. Not one of us
>>>>>>> would want to be involved in such incidents and we must change
>>>>>>> driving behaviour to reduce that harm.
>>>>>>> “Merseyside Police are committed to the prevention of road death,
>>>>>>> to work towards Vision Zero - our strategy focused on driving down
>>>>>>> the amount of road traffic collisions in our regions and to lower
>>>>>>> the number of people killed and seriously injured on our streets.
>>>>>>> However, this is something that we must all do in partnership.
>>>>>>> Communities can also take a stand and help us to make the roads
>>>>>>> safer. We know how much you want to help us, so that we can ensure
>>>>>>> roads and shared spaces are used responsibly and that people abide
>>>>>>> by the laws we enforce.”
>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mercedes-van-driver-jailed-
> for-
>>>>> killing-schoolgirl-lexi-mcdavid-who-was-getting-off-a-bus-in-huyton-
>>>>> merseyside/ar-AA1kT8fS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But... but... *who* was on the chav-bike?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone MUST have been, otherwise your only recent post to penetrate
>>>>>> the NIN defences is OFF topic!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of interest, did you manage to evade the NIN troll-busting
>>>>>> features by writing a troll-enabling app to be used in conjunction
>>>>>> with your famous Google Groups killfile?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nugent is a fucktard child who has grown old. He is a disgrace to
>>>>> elderly right-wing loons everywhere.
>>>>
>>>> Ah... so you have dropped that unconvincing pretence to have developed
>>>> a killfile for Google Groups, then?
>>>>
>>>> Very wise.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely no-one believed you. You just made yourself look silly.
>>>> Very silly.
>>>
>>> Nugent is a fucktard child who has grown old. He is a disgrace to
>>> elderly right-wing loons everywhere.
>>
>> What a change has overcome May Sun!
>>
>> A couple of weeks ago, and under the very same soubriquet (look it up,
>> May Sun), he posted to uk.d-i-y and when challenged, denied being May
>> Sun, utilising a string of childish fourth form-invective just as he
>> does above.
>>
>> May Sun is, of course, a constantly off-topic *troll* in uk.r.c.
>>
>> It is highly appropriate that News Individual Net's anti-troll defences
>> had shut him out of its server. After all, what business does he even
>> have in having his posts circulated by a university (sorry for the five
>> syllable word)?
>
> Your wonderful NIN filter is helping you to be even more poorly informed
> than you otherwise would be.
>
> Did I call you a 'stupid cunt' on uk.d-i-y?
>
> Just in case I didn't:
>
> You stupid Cunt!

OK, you're just as childish and stupid as ever you were, but at least
you are now in conversational mode (of a sort), instead of being stuck
in "transmit".

And you have dropped the pretence of having written a "killfile for
Google Groups" (chuckle!).

You are still an off-topic troll in uk.r.c and have no business being
here in among the adults.

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By: JNugent on Sat, 2 Dec 2023

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