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Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

One of the snags was that they were owned by private landlords. So it would have been their responsibility to repair them. Trying to enforce that would have driven up rents, or caused the landlords to evict, demolish, and then rent out

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 16 Hours ago by: Tim Streater

Cataracts will do that.

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 17 Hours ago by: Tim+

Going blind? Haloes in your vision is caused by corneal swelling which is probably secondary to raised intraoccular pressure (glaucoma). Potentially very nasty. I appreciate that you’re joking but if anyone else here gets rainbow ha

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 19 Hours ago by: nothanks

Hmmm, psychedelic sex - what's not to like? It's almost worth paying more for memories of a misspent youth :-D

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 1 Day 20 Hours ago by: Fredxx

Does that matter? Do you find coloured halos reduces your libido? For most that would be the least of their issues! :-) Especially the wife's!

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 1 Day 21 Hours ago by: Fredxx

Does that matter? Do you find coloured halos reduces your libido? For most that would be the least of their issues! :-) Especially the wife's!

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 2 Days 1 Hour ago by: JNugent

All of those things would have been easy (and relatively cheap) to repair. And the council wouldn't have managed to get their dirty mitts on the land (the main objective in most cases).

checking continuity

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 2 Days 3 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

No not the electrical kind. Seems to me that its now quite common to put out trails for programs that have ended, or talk about up and coming programs that differ from the programme guide listings. I suppose this is what happens when you

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 3 Days 4 Hours ago by: jon

I can't take Viagra, because it causes coloured halos around my vision.

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 4 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jonathan

Migraine? Jonathan

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 3 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Hmm, I've never put this together, but now you mention it, I had what I can only explain as several days of the feeling you get when you hit an air pocket in a plane even when lying on the sofa. That was Valium again. It might also expla

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 20 Hours ago by: Harry Bloomfield Esq

That's it..!

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 21 Hours ago by: Tim+

Charles Bonnet syndrome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_release_hallucinations Tim

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 21 Hours ago by: Harry Bloomfield Esq

Yes, there was a mention of it, on our local news yesterday or day before, where a woman had become blind and suffered tremedously with flashing lights, colours and even seeing devils and demons. There was a name for it, but I was bare

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 5 Days 23 Hours ago by: NY

"Adrian Caspersz" <email@here.invalid> wrote in message news:jhg6vtFu0eqU1@mid.individual.net... When I used to suffer from bad migraines when I was in my teens, my visual disturbances were like a TV with the saturation turned up and the

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 4 Hours ago by: Jim Stewart ...

had Migraine with aura since the 90's

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 5 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Having had gradually diminishing vision, I can confirm all of this.The current theiry is that inherently, the vision system has noise, which is cancelled out by various means, but some people can be sensitive to it in the edges of the vi

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 6 Hours ago by: Peter James

My experience as well. I've suffered with this for nigh on twenty years and was diagnosed by my Optician about 5 years ago. Sometimes it's so bad that I need to sit down with my eyes closed until the episode ceases. The Doctors were not

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 14 Hours ago by: SteveW

My wife suffered from that, but severely. She couldn't drive, as she'd see cars, coming up to a give-way at a junction and think that they were coming too fast to stop. She couldn't even be a passenger, except with me or my father, as

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 14 Hours ago by: SteveW

My BP was okay last time I was at the docs, allowing for a little bit of white coat syndrome - and not too bad even not allowing for it.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 15 Hours ago by: williamwright

Basically we're fucked. Bill

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 16 Hours ago by: Harry Bloomfield Esq

One visual issue I do still suffer from very occaisionally, takes the form of seeing some movement, or motion in my periferal vision, if move my eyes. Rather like spotting a fly flying past in the edge of the vision, that can last for

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 16 Hours ago by: Harry Bloomfield Esq

The very first episode was of the full on phycodelic variety - early morning, still in bed and I had just woken up. I just remained in bed until it had cleared. I suffered and ignored it for years, not really knowing quite how to desr

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 20 Hours ago by: MB

Reminiscent of John Prescott's Master Plan for Liverpool. Demolish all the old houses and build new ones elsewhere, breaking up communities that had been together for years. One TV programme took one of these old house and made into a

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 20 Hours ago by: SteveW

Also about 20 minutes for me and pretty rarely happening. I get a black and white zig-zaggy edge and the area within it goes a little blurry (enough to make it difficult to read a computer screen, but not impossible). I too get a fair

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: Harry Bloomfield Esq

Spot on video for me too! Originally, I would suffer it once every six months or so, quite scary and no idea what was going on. Later, working for a particularly frustrating and stressful company, where a lot of frequent driving was

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: Tweed

Anyone getting these should get their blood pressure checked. It’s a well known symptom (but not the only cause). It’s what got me put on blood pressure medication.

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 21 Hours ago by: williamwright

That's really helpful. It's a very good accurate version of what I get. Bill

Re: Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 22 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] Presumably because the temporary replacements are just that - temporary; not designed to last long, but to give a service in the meantime: it could be argued that making them any more durable is a waste of money. If they _have_ a "m

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 6 Days 23 Hours ago by: Eddie King

[SNIP] [/SNIP] Fortunately not something I have experienced (touch wood) but nontheless fascinating. Thanks for posting this.

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days ago by: Roderick Stewart

I get these sometimes too, but shorter duration, less severe and without the headaches. The video is a pretty accurate depiction of what it looks like. Interesting to know what it's called, and reassuring to know it's not serious. Rod.

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days ago by: The Other John

I had 2 auras last night, 20.50 and 21.30, each lasting about 20 minutes but fortunately I don't get a headache. I get auras about 2 or 3 times per month but I can't pin-point a likely cause as the prevailing conditions are mostly di

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 1 Hour ago by: S Viemeister

Thanks for this. That's exactly what it looks and feels like to me.

Re: OT: Scintillating Scotoma (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 2 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

I get these once in a blue moon, first time thirty years ago, my partner gets them very occasionally. Dehydration and stress seem to make it more likely. Goes away after about an hour leaving one feeling tired. Many people go on to hav

OT: Scintillating Scotoma

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Posted: 7 Days 2 Hours ago by: Adrian Caspersz

Hey, Sometimes my vision goes a bit funny and I get a dull headache after a aura lightshow, where I can't do things that are critical like work or drive. Thankfully I can only count three occasions it has happened going back over twenty

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

You missed out the Tories. Even worse than Labour in terms of going bad. Jim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Bit like the Tories then, who have become the puppets of kleptocracy and other 'rich mates'. To the point where BloJo has to fly to Ukraine to find an audience that doesn't boo him! Jim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 7 Days 23 Hours ago by: williamwright

Two great British institutions that have gone bad: The Labour Party and the BBC. Bill

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days ago by: JNugent

Probably true, but at least partly because Labour were in government for six years 1945-1951 (part of which was during or in the immediate aftermath of war) and the Conservatives, under Churchill, Eden, MacMillan and Douglas-Home, wer

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 8 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

That may well have been true in some cases. However the house I was brought up in until about 10 years old was one of a set of similar houses that were best dealt with by demolition and replacement. I wasn't aware they were 'slums' at th

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 8 Days 2 Hours ago by: williamwright

An example of wider circumstances over riding party dogma. By the way I know a man who, as a youth, accidentally covered Supermac in soot. The old boy just shook the soot off his Times and carried on reading... Bill

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 8 Days 18 Hours ago by: MB

I have seen it written that post-war town planners did a lot more damage than the Germans, knocking down buildings that could have been repaired and replacing with very ugly structures.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 9 Days ago by: Jim Lesurf

Ah, you mean as per Dame Shirly and her mates shoving all the social housing into one ward to gerrymander Westminster for the Tories. Thus putting many tenants into unsafe accomodation. Yes, some politicians can find a way to exploit alm

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 9 Days ago by: Jim Lesurf

So can people who don't write books. :-) However to find out about the book's content, the best way to make your *own* mind about it is to read it. Some of the info may suprise a few. e.g. the Government that did the most in terms of

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 9 Days ago by: JNugent

No problem with that. In Liverpool (a place about which I can be reasonably geographically authoritative), no significant for-sale building took place until the 1970s. There was a little infill, here and there, plus one new estate on

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 9 Days 1 Hour ago by: R. Mark Clayton

During the war there had been little construction (men were conscripted), poor maintenance and wholesale destruction by the Luftwaffe (~2M homes destroyed and many more damaged). Rehousing those made homeless by enemy action was consid

Farting masts

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 9 Days 21 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

I just had to do a small modification to the aerial mast as it made this farting noise when the wind was in one direction. All it was, in the end was a small flap of duct tape down the bore of the mast tubing. Its amazing how such small

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 9 Days 22 Hours ago by: JNugent

Building council houses probably looked good to all parties in the immediate post-war era. The eventual socially-corrosive and gerrymandering effects of carpeting local authority territory with it would not have been so apparent. It

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days ago by: williamwright

The authors of books can select facts and figures and put a slant on things. Bill

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 1 Hour ago by: Max Demian

It was going to be "Radio 247" at one stage.

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 16 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

Neither. They are 4 (Four) and 2 (Two) respectively.

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 19 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

Freesat and Sky EPG charges can be very high (particularly Sky of channels that are FTA) They were probably using the ad revenue from DTT to help pay them COM 7 carriage was  quite cheap (much cheaper than COM 4/5/6) because of its res

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 10 Days 20 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

Oops see corrected repost :(

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 20 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

Surely the costs of running the channel should be way lower if they just stayed on satellite?

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 20 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

Surely the costs of running the channel should be way if they just stayed on satellite?

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 20 Hours ago by: Tweed

Nothing so crass as Radio 1 in the days of the Home Service and Light Programme.

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 20 Hours ago by: MB

Some still talk about the Home Service and Light Programme, is it Radio 1 or Radio One now?

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 20 Hours ago by: MB

But many people still refer to it as BBC News 24 otherwise if you say "BBC news", people do not know if you are referring to that channel or just one of the BBC radio and TV news programmes.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Supported by mere facts. :-) I'd recommend reading the book "The Five Giants" on these topics. Most illuminating in terms of the results of various politicians/etc over many decades wrt Health Service, Education, Housing, etc, and the

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 22 Hours ago by: BrightsideS9

That's only your opinion.

Re: An unencrypted feed. (thread)

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Posted: 10 Days 22 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

11608H (or 11607 or 11611) seems to be a transponder just for the Freeview Bilsdale relays feed. It has encrypted video. The old location for it was not using the whole bandwidth of the transponder and it was not encrypted. Maybe this

An unencrypted feed.

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 10 Days 23 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

DVB-S2 12724H 5000 Auto 8PSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 An unencrypted feed. This clip recorded 18-Jun-2022 at approx 13:17 UTC Two audio channels present, one with commentary, one without. https://youtu.be/59UIZebc-nY Two other feeds received fro

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days ago by: Mark Carver

Ha, don't worry I still refer to it News 24, and actually a lot of people still do. Remarkable really, because it only lasted 10 years as News 24, is been called News Channel for 14.

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days ago by: Tweed

Sorry, wasn’t really aimed at you. Just my general grumpiness about rebranding exercises. Pleased to see the new news studio got some flack on Newswatch this morning. I liked the theory from one viewer that it was all about increasing H

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 11 Days ago by: Mark Carver

Lighten up,  why do you think I added a smiley ?

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 11 Days ago by: Tweed

Same thing though isn’t it? Just a rebrand. You could equally well argue that BBC1 closed down in favour of BBC One.

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mark Carver

BBC News 24 closed over 14 years ago, it was replaced by the BBC News Channel :-)

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jim Lesurf

....and his own. :-) It would be wise for him to stop digging, but the conditional on that statement seems to return 'false'. :-) Jim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 11 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Your inability to understand that: when a 'view' about reality conflicts with mere reality, then that view is false is an interested meta-error. :-) Mirror, mirror... 8-] Jim

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 11 Days 2 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

It'll still exist as SD on freeview and both HD and SD on freesat

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 2 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

I've already got a smattering of 700/800 channels already here. I notice one of them is one of the adult channels which of course are a joke in any case. Brian

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 3 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Well, what is recent? It seems to me that the ramifications of giving more space to other things has been kept from Joe Public deliberately. I foresee a future of being back to four or five channels and all the others gone or online. Sa

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 11 Days 3 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

I only see one religious channel. If you ever watch it its perfectly clear that many people though no doubt genuine about their faith, are not living in the world the rest of us inhabit at all! I cannot understand the closure of News 24

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 16 Hours ago by: MB

They confirm that they are closing completely. https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/forces-tv-is-closing

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 20 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

The closure of COM 7 seems to be the catalyst for Forces TV to throw in the towel. I suspect their viewer base is predominately Freeview. Don't forget it's been known for 2 or 3 years that the 'back stop' for COM 7 is June 2022, so the

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 11 Days 20 Hours ago by: NY

"Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t8ho8k$o57$1@dont-email.me... Is it pure chance that Forces TV is closing completely (including on satellite 11836H) at the same time as they are losing their slot on COM7? I won

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

uk.tech.digital-tv

Posted: 11 Days 21 Hours ago by: Java Jive

The problem is your lack of understanding that you lost an argument through the views or opinions that you expressed in it being shown to depart from reality, and until you realise this you are just wasting our time.

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 21 Hours ago by: Scott

Notwithstanding the absence of regulatory obligation, do broadcasters not have a general duty to show consideration to the viewers? What's to stop them adding a subtitle to say the service will close (or move) on a certain date? In fac

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

The problem is your lack of understanding of what "view" or "opinion" means and until you do you are just wasting our time.

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 11 Days 23 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

As I've said many times, the broadcasters on COM 7 are under no regulatory obligation to inform the viewer of anything. Forces TV have said they are closing, in fact their last programme ends at 11am on June 30th, which means they can

Re: An unencrypted feed. (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days ago by: NY

"Brian Gregory" <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote in message news:jh386cFoepqU1@mid.individual.net... Weird. I've sometimes seen different sites/receivers differ by +/-1, but 11611 is different by 4 (or 3 from the 11608 tha

Re: An unencrypted feed. (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days ago by: Brian Gregory

They have it listed as 11611H. It's close enough that it's obviously the same as what my receiver said was 11607H.

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 1 Hour ago by: Brian Gaff

Pity about Forces TV, since its often running old stuff nobody else does. I would imagine other channels will pick up the programs instead though. How many people in the UK do not get these channels and only get the main ones. I'm really

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 2 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Yes, you said that several days ago, but here you still are trying to argue a point that no-one else agrees with, because it's obvious to everyone else here that some opinions can be checked against reality and found to be untrue, whic

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 2 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Very well, if you must go into untestable areas, my *EVIDENCE* of intent is the deliberate way he has tried and is still trying to maintain a losing argument both over the original issue and then over the definition of an 'opinion' or

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

There is a world of difference between be-bop or 'modern' jazz and 40s Big Band or the early 'cool' jazz or Jack Teagarden. Alas, in recent times the tendency on R3 has been towards the more modern types and ye olde stuff gets largely i

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

I didn't realise that BloJo was so religious! 8-] Jim

Re: Any "new" News on Mux 7? (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: SH

Any further news about the remaining channels on Com 7 apart from Forces TV closing. BBC News 24 HD closing and the remaining BBC channels moving to PSB3? I'm surprised at the lack of news given that Com 7 closure is 13 days away.....

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Nope, he's *deliberately* missing it. 8-] Jim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

That is incorrect and your inability to understand it is what has cause this diversion, an opinion is just that and you can certainly disagree with it but opinions cannot be wrong. I said I would stop posting on the subject as it's an

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

...for some. Just as the "Free Market" is a religion for some. Ditton "Neo liberalism", etc. Many of the basis arguments, etc, of 'socialism' are OK. This is why, for example, Macmillian continued to build social housing, etc, after WW

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

To be fair, he may be delusional, or simply trolling. The latter seems more likely. But both might your 'opinion'. 8-] Jim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 4 Hours ago by: Norman Wells

You should stick to the Home Service. You know it makes sense. If the little woman wants something different, allow her an hour a week or so, but I urge no more, to listen to the Light Programme.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 6 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

I don't know what it's called, but I know when I don't like something. I never really understood jazz, or why it was routinely to be found on the BBC Third Programme (later Radio 3) but there it was, and labelled as such, so I guess tha

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 6 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

[...] Yes, that's how religions do it; the good old "jam tomorrow" argument. Sometimes it can be more persuasive than it has any right to be. Rod.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 6 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

Perhaps I haven't made my point clearly enough, because you are definitely missing it. For an untruth to be a lie, it has to be deliberate, with the intention of deceiving, so a person who says something untrue because they sincerely bel

Re: An unencrypted feed. (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 11 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

And now it's gone. Apparently it's now carrying the feed for Freeview PSB2 on the relay transmitters that used to relay the Bilsdale transmitter that burnt down. I can receive the individual program channels but only audio, the video i

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 14 Hours ago by: Ian Jackson

In message <t8f81g$lpm$2@dont-email.me>, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> writes In any discussion, an 'opinion' (regardless of whether it is correct or not), in the presence of true facts is inadmissible evidence.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 20 Hours ago by: Java Jive

I'm not interested in the untestable personal inner psychology of people who lie in public, only in the externally testable fact that they lie in public.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 21 Hours ago by: williamwright

Semantics makes me feel sleepy. Bill ('semantics' isn't a plural so shut yer gobs)

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 21 Hours ago by: JNugent

An ex-colleague of mine (in an engineering workshop, decades ago) was a committed and confirmed communist - a member of the party. That was no problem for me - I had relatives who were members. And some of my very best friends over th

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 21 Hours ago by: JNugent

You're thinking of reggae or drum and bass, shirley?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 21 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

To my ears, some of it is. Rod.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 12 Days 21 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

Some people continue to believe things that are untrue despite rational explanations, but that doesn't mean they are not sincere in what they believe. If a lie is a deliberate untruth, it cannot be possible to be sincere, and a liar, at

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days ago by: Java Jive

Until you understand that yours was shown to be untrue by others supplying contrary *EVIDENCE*, you are wasting everybody's time.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days ago by: Java Jive

That would be fine if he just voiced an opinion which was then shown to be untrue, and never voiced it again thereafter - nobody would call that lying. The problem is that, despite being shown, I think it was around 13, links to inf

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days ago by: Java Jive

Until you understand that yours was shown to be untrue by others supplying contrary *EVIDENCE*, you are wasting everybody's time.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days ago by: Jeff Gaines

Yes, sorry, I will stop.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by: JNugent

Sorry... that should have been DFTTs.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by: JNugent

Only if you let him. DFTFs.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by: JNugent

Why does an opinion have to have meaning for anyone but the opinion-holder?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by: JNugent

While I am far too polite to do so, if I were to voice my honestly-held opinion of you, you would say that it was a lie. But it wouldn't be.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 1 Hour ago by: Max Demian

We had a dictionary at home (collected in fortnightly instalments [1]) which defined jazz as "a noisy, discordant kind of music" and a currant bun as "a bun with few or no currants". [1] Lots of books were sold that way. Before WW2, in

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

The "opinion" that the Moon is made of green cheese is untrue. If someone holds that view they are simply wrong. Until you understand that you're simply playing games to dodge the reality. "Opinions" only have the property of being ne

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

However when someone reasserts a point that has been shown to be false, they can be expected to know it isn't true. if not, they're either a dim bulb or a liar. Once it has been pointed out that a 'view' clashes with reality then restati

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

No, its not his or our problem. We're quite happy to agree that you are sponting some 'views' that are nonsense. That's our 'view' so we can't be 'wrong' by your own 'view' of 'opinion'. Your turn to go one more level in your recursive

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Well, the 'truth' may be that the 'opinion' shows that the asserter is an opininated dimwit whose thinking is devorced from reality. So we have a meta-truth about a meta-opinion:-) Infinite loop, anyone? 8-] Jim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

The snag being that in reality an asserted 'opinion' or 'view' may be vacuous nonsense. i.e. not true. Jim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Until you understand that an opinion cannot be untrue you are wasting everybody's time.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 5 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Until you understand that an opinion cannot be untrue you are wasting everybody's time.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 6 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

In my dictionary a lie is an intentionally false statement, or a deception. A deliberate deception is not quite the same as simply misunderstanding something and getting it wrong. Rod.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 12 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Not even fellow Brexshitters are supporting you in your attempt to change the meaning of commonly used English words, just to avoid losing an argument. You stated an opinion, it was then shown to be untrue, and you then restated it as

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 12 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Yawn, more bullshit. You expressed an 'opinion' or 'view', it doesn't matter what it is called, that was then proved to be untrue, and then restated that 'opinion' or 'view' as if it were true. That is lying in anyone's dictionary, e

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 14 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

No, that's your problem, you won't accept that that is incorrect. Some people will agree with an opinion others will disagree, there is no element of right or wrong there can't be it's an opinion it's not fact based - see 2 above, 'w

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 14 Hours ago by: Lew

The first and most usual meaning is the first above, a "judgement which seems likely to be true". You haven't grasped the paradox that for that opinion to have any meaning it must be true.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 14 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

I still have my paper copy of Chambers, cost 27/6 way back when. Anyway the online version says: "opinion noun 1 a belief or judgement which seems likely to be true, but which is not based on proof. 2 (usually opinion on or about some

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 17 Hours ago by: Lew

Chambers Dictionary has views and opinions as what seems to be true, a judgement or estimation. Nothing there or any other Dictionary to suggest that they cannot be false or wrong, though it would depend on context. An aesthetic judge

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 20 Hours ago by: Java Jive

There are some people who understand perfectly well that wilfullyt voicing opinions or views that don't accord with reality is just lying.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 23 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Probably going that way but you're perfectly entitled to hold that opinion which is the point I have made time and time again but there are some people who don't want to understand.

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 13 Days 23 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

May be 2 complex for some. :-) Jim

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

Or certain broadcast centres or government listening buildings.

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

Except where declared integer. (Sorry, from old Fortran programmers' joke.)

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

It's my opinion that he's just another liar. Easy end of story.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Richard Tobin

It's my opinion that you're nuts. Is that wrong?

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mark Carver

And also on June 30th Forces TV (currently using COM 7) is closing on all platforms anyway https://twitter.com/forces_tv/status/1537019135573499904

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jeff Gaines

Nope but I used to listen to the marketing people very closely, they are the people who understand views & opinions and charge lots of money for trying to get people to change them. Have a look at Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jim Lesurf

I recall reading that at one time some held the "view" that travelling much faster than a horse could gallop would cause them to lose consciousness as the air whooshed out of their lungs. This view turned out to be false. Some engineer

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 3 Hours ago by: Richard Tobin

Sounds like you have your own special definitions.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

This indicates your problem (and that of your monkey) exactly. Views or opinions cannot by definition be false or wrong. You, and others, can disagree with them but saying the are wrong is ludicrous. Do a bit of research, start with

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

LOL!

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 19 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

They were only really popular with people living in windmills or lighthouses.

Re: Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 19 Hours ago by: John Williamson

Reading the report, the executive summary seems to be "There was a fire, and the contingency plans worked as well as could be expected." What I am wondering is that if 99.9% of listeners and viewers can now receive the same programming

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 20 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Bit of a gimmick. Bit like 3D TVs whish were really a botched up old idea, many yearsahead of the actual believable product. Incidentally, anyone seen Abba Voyage show yet, How good is the illusion? Brian

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 20 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Actually investing for the future is good. It can cost a lot more to try to play catch up after you have built your system. I guess it depends on what you think is important. I mean you can run a tv studio on mobile phones if you really

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 20 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

There are still a few about. The really big ones. I imagine in the home though the amount they jut outfrom the wall at the corners is somewhat inconvenient. Bent screens attempt to duplicate cinema screens as many of those were that sort

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 20 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Time to start worrying then when the goldfish obscure the picture as it floods? Brian

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 14 Days 20 Hours ago by: the dog from that fi

people realised that they were in fact worse, not better and stopped buying them.

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 3 Hours ago by: MB

Huw Edwards had to keep warning Alex Jones to not trip over things so they were real. A saw a Tweet from someone at GBNEWS moaning about the BBC spending money! Someone else will probably moan about them not having the latest toys.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Be fair. It can happen if someone is simply deluded to the point of being incapable of accepting mere reality. However whatever the cause, the result is false statements that may mislead others, and mean the "views" are at minimum, wort

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

The can if the person spounting them actually - despite apprearances - knows they are false. If they don't, they may merely be stubbornly deluded or a dim bulb. Take yer pick. :-) Jim

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Not seen the above as yet. However for some time now BBC Scotland have been using a computer-graphic 'walled and furnished room' for some broadcasts. Walls with screens, etc, can appear and disappear as the programme changes topic. Othe

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 3 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

It does. It's mostly real.

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 3 Hours ago by: Scott

Are you sure it exists? Could it not be an empty room and computer generated graphics? I remember hearing a tale (apocryphal perhaps) about a senior executive questioning health and safety issues of having a glass screen in the studio,

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 11 Hours ago by: Java Jive

[Jeff Gaines has broken the quoting again, he wrote:] You don't seem to understand what a lie is - to begin to understand, start by examining those 'views' that you express here in public that don't match reality as measured by the ex

Re: BBC News studio (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 15 Hours ago by: Jeff Layman

It looked very impressive and expensive. Considering the shape, I suppose it would have looked really good on a large-screen curved TV. Whatever happened to those?...

BBC News studio

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Posted: 15 Days 15 Hours ago by: MB

The new BBC News studio was shown off on The One Show tonight. They kept talking about it being "in the basement".

Re: Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 18 Hours ago by: NY

"Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:t87sfn$37n$2@dont-email.me... My reference to "dB" was a typo: I meant "dbW". Going from one absolute power to another one is an increase (or a decrease) in the same way as going

Re: Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 19 Hours ago by: Woody

10dBW to 20 dBW is not an increase, it is two <absolute> power levels, the larger is a factor of 10 greater than the smaller figure.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 21 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

You don't seem to understand what a view or opinion is, they cannot be false or wrong. All you can do is disagree with another person's opinion. Oh, you don't like it when it's addressed to you then?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 22 Hours ago by: JNugent

You must be a barrel of laughs around the local pubs (assuming you haven't been barred from all those where you are known). Do you lead your entire life like that?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 22 Hours ago by: Java Jive

They are by definition lies if they are publicly expressed after they have been shown to be false, which is exactly what you persist in doing. You are rapidly becoming a pathetic Bob-LieToThem-style HYPOSHITE! Who was it up thread wh

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 23 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Views and opinions cannot be "lies" by definition, anyway I was addressing the organ grinder, not the monkey.

Re: Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 23 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Nor was there a great detail on the changes to directivity for existing users , so did existing users of other transmitters suffer lower signals due to beaming more toward the dark areas? I was rather struck by the reason for the failu

Re: Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire (thread)

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Posted: 15 Days 23 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Well, its always going to be a problem to communicate with an audience when your method of communicating is the problem stopping you from communicating. Its hard enough just getting people to read and understand stuff if its put through

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days ago by: Java Jive

Previously in the thread you were given by myself examples of 'views', which I and many others would justifiably call lies, posted by you that multiple independent lines of well-established information, including from a government depa

Re: Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mark Carver

Well, decibels are meaningless without a reference. If the power was increased by a factor of 12, then that is a 10.8 dB increase. We don't know what the starting (or finishing values) were

Re: Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 1 Hour ago by: NY

"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:jgohnbFbr9cU1@mid.individual.net... How much was the power actually increased? Was it an increase by 12 dB. You'd expect a report by Ofcom would either use the correct pow

Re: Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

Try this <https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/information-for-industry/tv?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Ofcom%20publishes%20incident%20review%20following%20Bilsdale%20Transmitter%20Fire&utm_content=Ofcom%20publishes%20incident

Ofcom's report on the Bilsdale Fire

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Posted: 16 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

It's here One bit that caught my eye, '....power was increased 12 fold....' <htttps://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/information-for-industry/tv?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Ofcom%20publishes%20incident%20review%20following%20B

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 3 Hours ago by: MB

My school expected six formers to act as referees on a Saturday, I never bothered going because I have no idea of the rules so could not see how I could referee a match! And when we did cricket I could walk wander off to an adjacent pi

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

If you think I have done that then please let me have an example(s).

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Crumbs! You are posh! :-) I always dodged 'games'... often by the method of not going to school. And the playground of my primary school wasn't big enough for more than a kick-about of whatever ball someone might have. My secondary schoo

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

The problem is with with your use of "view" to include "assertions presented as fact but which are - often incorrect - belief". People are pointing out that mere reality doesn't accord with your "view" in various instances. BTW Given t

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 4 Hours ago by: NY

"MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t86rgt$h28$1@dont-email.me... OK, so if they could report by wireless rather than landline, they could in theory receive a sync signal that was broadcast by wireless as an alternative to receivi

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 4 Hours ago by: MB

WT to the Filter Room (or Sub Filter Room) or Naval Plotting Room

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 4 Hours ago by: NY

"MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t85hk8$qt9$1@dont-email.me... You are almost certainly better read about radar than me and I will defer to your undoubtedly greater knowledge. I'm beginning to wonder whether I utterly misunders

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 16 Hours ago by: MB

I have read lots of books on WWII radar and never seen that mentioned. It seems unlikely because some did not even have a landline connection. I have never come across the term "radar head office"?

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 16 Hours ago by: NY

"Owen Rees" <orees@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:v7bcah5og9sqf7ll1sh55v01v5630s8umf@4ax.com... And probably fairly fixed format: wind speeds, temperatures and humidities are almost always 1 or 2 digits; compass bearings are three di

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 16 Hours ago by: NY

"MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t8523s$9i3$1@dont-email.me... I've seen a description and a diagram showing how a master controller at "radar head office" sent a timing signal by GPO landline to all the radar stations, with ti

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 17 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Yes, without examining it (I'm rather busy just now), that sounds like it. Thanks for the further detail.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 18 Hours ago by: Owen Rees

I remember reading that many messages, especially in the early days, repeated a sequence of letters at the beginning - some sort of identifier for the sender and message IIRC. Weather reports were also of great value as they tended to us

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 18 Hours ago by: Owen Rees

That sounds more like his post-war work. "The Chemical Basis of Morphogenesis" Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London. Series B, Biological Sciences, Vol. 237, No. 641. (Aug. 14, 1952), pp. 37-72. https://www.dna.calt

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 20 Hours ago by: MB

I read a book by a member of the ATS from the Highlands who worked decoding British signals at the War Office, often a signal would not decode because of an error in transmission so they had solve it trying different letters using a ta

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 21 Hours ago by: NY

"MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:t84uqh$iri$1@dont-email.me... That was the part that I found most impressive: they didn't know how many rotors or how many different letters each rotor had, or how many positions the rotor advan

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 21 Hours ago by: MB

That is the case with most codes/encryption. But Bill Tutte worked for weeks with lots of paper and worked out how it worked, they did not even know how many rotors there were until then.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 22 Hours ago by: Java Jive

LOL! Think of a well-known phrase involving pots and kettles. FTR I was brought up to play competitive games, and was in the Rugby 1st XV at preparatory school, but it's the three of you who are the problem here, in that *YOU* are be

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 22 Hours ago by: Ian Jackson

In message <t7na96$dfu$2@dont-email.me>, Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> writes But HOW to think and WHAT to think are not necessarily the same thing.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 16 Days 23 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Absolutely right. However, I am not rude and arrogant enough to feel I have a right to criticise anybody else's view. I am getting quite concerned about your response and one or two other responses. To some extent I can put it down to

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days ago by: Java Jive

And other such mistakes - IIRC, another one was a number of German officers who, despite being advised not to in their coding manuals, could not resist ending all their communications with common expressions such as "Heil Hitler".

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 1 Hour ago by: Andy Burns

I've never seen where TVH originated from, I suspect it was intended to be a commercial product, which probably only became opensource when it failed as a product? It actually seems to have a consistent architecture to it, unlike many

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 2 Hours ago by: NY

"Jeff Layman" <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:t84b16$bhe$1@dont-email.me... As I understand it, the Germans sent a message and received a response from the recipient to say that it was garbled: could the sender send it again

Re: An unencrypted feed (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 2 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

I don't know, but probably not, it seemed to be the just for the "3x3" sport event.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jeff Layman

Actually, they had to rely on a cock-up by one of the German code senders to break Lorenz. I've a feeling that something similar happened to get the Enigma breakthrough, too.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 3 Hours ago by: MB

Those people tend to associate all Bletchley Park's work with him when he was just one amongst many. I get the feeling you would need to be an expert mathematician to be able to evaluate his work. Most think that they could feed the e

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 5 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

Yes, but it's still better than leaving everything plugged into an ordinary mains splitter drawing several lots of standby current. Rod.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 14 Hours ago by: Java Jive

I think one of those papers may have been about how patterning forms in the coats of animals such as cows. ISTR that was something he made a contribution to. Yes.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 14 Hours ago by: Owen Rees

Alan Turing's obituary on The Royal Society web site "He was elected to the Fellowship of the Society in 1951". https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/epdf/10.1098/rsbm.1955.0019 "But the loss to his scientific work of the years betwe

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 14 Hours ago by: NY

"Jeff Layman" <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:t82kp0$63h$1@dont-email.me... That's the thing. I can't remember when I heard the talk. I think it was in Reading, but would I have gone there from Bracknell where I lived until

Re: An unencrypted feed (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 15 Hours ago by: NY

"Brian Gregory" <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote in message news:jgk5tsFjqskU1@mid.individual.net... Is this transmitting at 22:35? I can pick up the other feed 11607H but not 12520H.

Re: An unencrypted feed. (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 17 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

Anyone got any idea what this is for? It's still there now!

An unencrypted feed

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Posted: 17 Days 17 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

DVB-S2 12520 H 7200 Auto 8PSK 28.2°E SID=1 1920x1080 An unencrypted feed. https://youtu.be/c7Hbxju9ulg https://youtu.be/ZGmzgMRAwPQ

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 18 Hours ago by: Jeff Layman

Flowers and Turing were treated pretty poorly by "The Establishment". We were lucky that Flowers was prepared to spend a lot of his own money to build the first Colossus. Even after the war, Flowers was not reimbursed in total for the

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 20 Hours ago by: NY

"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:4of9ah1vdbeg26cpm9nboigsfccv6qo0vm@4ax.com... Won't the intelligent switching capability need power to work, so it will always draw current from the mains even if all

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 20 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

You can use one of those "intelligent" mains adaptors that detect the current drawn through one master socket in order to switch all the others with a relay. It's not a perfect solution, but at least it means only one piece of equipment

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 20 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

I don't think I've still got anything that uses valves from 1943. Rod.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 21 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Sounds very much like most of the claims you make. For example, where is your source for the above claim about so-called 'Greenies'?

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 21 Hours ago by: MB

No, they were claiming that the TV would use very littl less than normal. I have measure mine in the past and nothing like that. Greenies come out with some silly claims, someone claimed that one use carrier bags that were given away

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 23 Hours ago by: Max Demian

They probably checked the TV just after it was switched to standby. Modern TVs don't go into "proper" standby straight away, perhaps in case the user changes his mind. My Sony TV waits 7.5 minutes.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 17 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

Turing seems to have been a typical theoretical mathematician. I read in one book that he did some work for Hanslope, (from what I remember) there was a RF matching problem and the only way he could solve it was calculating it. He wa

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: NY

"Jeff Layman" <Jeff@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:t81rnk$9nj$1@dont-email.me... Him as well. I wonder what Turing would have achieved (over and above his wartime contribution) if he had lived out his natural lifespan. It's a sh

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: R. Mark Clayton

The Guardian cited their sources. Anyway I had a look around for something a little more unbiased than the Grauniad. This article is three months out of date and the UK position has probably worsened but: - https://obr.uk/box/the-latest-

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: NY

"Java Jive" <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote in message news:t81ps8$t8p$1@dont-email.me... I did. I heard him give a talk at a BCS or IEE meeting many years ago. A very modest man but a very compelling speaker. I remember he was given a st

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: NY

"David Wade" <g4ugm@dave.invalid> wrote in message news:t81i1c$9sa$1@dont-email.me... Anyway, it may not be at all clean by the time you are rescued from the accident ;-)

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: R. Mark Clayton

SNIP The jibe is at your refusal to consider any evidence - you are refusing - aren't you? What I am taking exception to is your accusing me of saying something I hadn't. Well you have pre-judged the issue - haven't you? Not reall

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: NY

"Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:7qc8ah1oc4pq0b7v3n3otqtahlc3lmtsaf@4ax.com... The problem with air-gap switches is that you lose the ability to switch the appliance back on remotely (either over the

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

How 'running' was this joke? Sorry, I'll get me own coat.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: MB

I think what Bill Tutte achieved with LORENZ exceeds anything done by Turing but he does not have a powerful minority working on his behalf.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: JNugent

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Hilarious!

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: williamwright

When I was having radiotherapy every day for a month I had a running joke with the radiotherapists about my brightly coloured underwear. Bill

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jeff Layman

Or Bill Tutte, whose cryptanalysis knowledge was the equal of Turing. I had the pleasure of visiting "Station X" towards the end of 2009. The Bletchley huts were in a pretty poor state of repair, I must say. We were shown round by bom

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 2 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Self-contradiction. But I'm glad that you know about Tommy Flowers, most people only know about Alan Turing.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 2 Hours ago by: MB

But someone might see it at the roadside before taken to hospital. :-) Though I suspect some might be more concerned that they are not wearing a fashionable make of underwear.. At least we now know after Radio 2 a few weeks ago that S

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Bob's "view" seems to be that anyone who wants him to actually read and understand mere evidence that clashs with his "views" MUST be a leftie spounting "religion"... on the basis of flatly refusing to even READ the evidence himself. Clim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

The snag being when opinions are stated as if fact. if you can spout you 'opinions' I can give mine : eg- Yup. My "view". Which apparently I have a "right" to express. Perhaps you can quote some examples along with their usenet d

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Slippery and selective use of "right" detected. :-) Particularly as your comment implicity conflicts with your assertions. If you have a "right" to express a "view", so does he - in that case his view being what he wrote. Jim

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Poor documentation seems par for the course, alas, when it comes to free software. :-/ Product of programmer attitude: "The code *is* the documentation" Only Terrestrial here, and only one DVB-T/T2 device. TBH most of what I captu

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 4 Hours ago by: David Wade

1) Most modern TVs don't have switches becuase they are designed to be left switched on. 2) When he built Collossus in 1943 Tommy Flowers said that it should be left switched on becuase the valves would last longer. 3) Your parents al

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 4 Hours ago by: David Wade

We are seeing lots of this FUD. The cost to an individual is mimimal.There are EU limits on standby consumption. A typical device costs less than £1/year even at todays exorbitant prices.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 5 Hours ago by: MB

A few years ago there was an article about this that quoted a "green" expert who claimed some ridiculously high figure for what TV sets used on standby. It was picked up by other newspapers and radio and TV programmes so widely quoted

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 5 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

I wasn't talking about things being switched on and off frequently, but low consumption items that have to be left connected all the time. Older items of this type can be considerably less efficient than a modern equivalent. The design

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 13 Hours ago by: Java Jive

If anyone wants a more useful and realistic assessment, listen to the first 7 minutes or so of this: More or Less - Employment puzzle, pyramids and triplets https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001817c

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 15 Hours ago by: NY

"Norman Wells" <hex@unseen.ac.am> wrote in message news:jghoefF78bbU1@mid.individual.net... We have a gas AGA for cooking, and a gas condensing boiler installed in 2020 (replacing an older one which was life-expired and about to corrode

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 15 Hours ago by: NY

"Laurence Taylor" <laurence@nospam.plus.com> wrote in message news:38OdnQyIiMEd5z7_nZ2dnUU7-KPNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk... Yes my feeling is that for archive programmes like those TPTV, ITV3 and Drama play, the original breaks should be kep

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 15 Hours ago by: Norman Wells

You can be as parsimonious as you like of course. However, there's a cost in reducing the life of anything you switch on and off frequently, and you do actually need space heating when the air temperature outside is lower than you lik

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 17 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

It may be only a tenner a year, but why spend it at all if I don't need to? Also, it's not the only electronic device that was running in "soft-off" mode all the time, so the total waste could be more than that. Also, it's fairly warm to

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 19 Hours ago by: Laurence Taylor

Talking Pictures has a habit of doing this, though usually the original break bumpers are (often badly) spliced out. Often on Forces TV there will be a break bumper, fade to black, DOG goes off ... but no adverts appear, and then the pro

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 19 Hours ago by: Laurence Taylor

I also was quite shocked by the amount of power consumed by kit that's not actually working. Apart from things with timers in, everything now gets turned off at the mains at night.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 22 Hours ago by: Java Jive

[Jeff Gaines has broken the quoting again. I think R Mark Clayton said] Grow up and stand up for your views like a man - that is: with robust evidence - or shut the fuck up. Nobody is going to take any notice of your pathetic wh

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 22 Hours ago by: NY

"Jim Lesurf" <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote in message news:59f64a037anoise@audiomisc.co.uk... TVHeadend's own documentation is not very good. It describes the fields on the various config screens but doesn't really give a very good "nam

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 18 Days 22 Hours ago by: Bob Latham

I'm afraid the liberal left have a problem. They cannot tolerate or comprehend people having a different opinion to them. They can't cope with it at all. All of them quickly start to use insulting language they simply can't resist or co

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days ago by: The Other John

I doubt it! Neither would my C & G RAE (Subject 55?).

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

In other words, you're just repeating the possible lies of others without attempting to verify them, which makes you a potential liar. When are you and Jeff going to start basing your views on *EVIDENCE* rather than bigoted prejudice?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

[Quoting broken, but I think R Mark Clayton said] [Quoting broken, but I think Jeff Gaines said] That is incorrect, there are many people here who think you should not make public statements without being able to support them with re

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 2 Hours ago by: MB

Though I believe the Grauniad, like the Liberals, have a history of using dodgy graphs. Just going by hearsay as I do not look at the tabloids.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

On 10/06/2022 in message <2e65c804-09b7-48c3-a855-033131bfb078n@googlegroups.com> R. Mark Clayton wrote: That is incorrect, there are a couple of people in here (including you in the above statement) who feel I should read something

Alexa on the Samsung again

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Posted: 19 Days 2 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

No its still working but has now decided that if you say something like channel 25 or 27 it will say 20 and go there instead. So unless the microphone is on the blink something has changed. Brian

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 3 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Many people are directors of one-man companies, or a residents association I think doctors are no longer acceptable, unless they know the applicant personally, rather than professionally?

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Up to now I've tended to use my own DIY prog with the relevant DVB-T/T2 packages to grab recordings from DVB. However I'm now tempted to get a Pi and use that with my USB T/T2 dongle to record. cf below. Raspbian + TVHeadend souds like w

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 3 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

SNIP Usually lawyers (professionally bound not to make false statements), doctors (who are likely to know applicants) and elected officials (e.g. MP's, councillors - ibid). I signed one for a neighbour's [Asian] son's first adult passp

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 3 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

No one is asking you to change your views, although if you looked at the evidence and admitted that you don't have any for your view then rationally you might. I had a look around for something a little more unbiased than the Grauniad. T

Re: 4s and 5s missing from Freesat's EPG. (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 3 Hours ago by: PeterC

They returned yesterday (except E4+1) and were there for the previuos couple of days (each day I check what's on for the smae day the following week, so the missing bits were for the middle of next week).

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 19 Days 22 Hours ago by: Norman Wells

So, it costs you about 3p per day, and you get all that power back as heat anyway. How much consideration does it warrant?

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days ago by: Roderick Stewart

My first internet streaming box was a Windows PC, built into a horizontal case to match the rest of the AV and hi-fi stuff and permanently plugged to the TV, but otherwise just a normal PC controlled with a mouse on the coffee table. It

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Max Demian

Actually, most commercial channels put a DOG during the programme but not the adverts/trailers/sponsor messages, so I just skip forward until I hit the DOG, then back a bit.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Dave

TVHadmin (wot I rote) is a better interface for day-to-day use, though you still have to use the original to manage channels etc. https://github.com/dave-p/TVHadmin-JS

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 2 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

the DreamPlayerTV app uses a normal channel/time grid, e.g. <http://andyburns.uk/misc/dream-player-epg.png> It could be improved e.g. the highlighted "Frasier" programme could be e.g. orange, rather than yet another shade of blue it

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: NY

"Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message news:jgdqauFfol9U1@mid.individual.net... I used to use a Windows PC (the same one that I use for editing and storing the recordings) for doing the recording as well, in addition to logg

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

I was for some years an "Old Crow". I wonder if that would have done. 8-] Some years earlier when I worked at Armstrong I decided to apply to join the UK electrical engineers society (can't recall their name). Their form seemed mainly c

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

So where is the magic 'technology' BloJo promised would enable this to happen? The EU negotiators doubted it, but he insisted, so they took him at his word and agreed on that basis. However it was clear enough that the three requireme

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

The other side of this is that most people don't know how to ensure we get the 'end results' they wish, and the details of how it will be done. e.g. When we may want a good road network, or set of school provison or more effective NHS -

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Similar here, tower PC which is on 24x7 anyway, has a hauppauge combined terrestrial/satellite PCI card. I recently upgraded from an old chromecast to one of the newish chromecast with android TV and a remote, installed DreamPlayerTV

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 3 Hours ago by: NY

"Chris J Dixon" <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message news:c073ahp73dq4vmf6qvlufb0ekg2eekh6bj@4ax.com... C5 have the annoying habit of including the selling of the holiday as part of the programme, so it is *before* the break bumper. And

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 4 Hours ago by: NY

"Brian Gregory" <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote in message news:jgd11eFcqcpU1@mid.individual.net... My setup is a Raspberry Pi running Raspbian and TVHeadend PVR software, with a dual DVB-T2 tuner and a DVB-S2 tuner (*).

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 4 Hours ago by: MB

Does not surprise me, I can remember reading comments from Americans that people had a duty to watch the adverts.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 5 Hours ago by: Chris J Dixon

C5 are playing with that boundary. It is mainly their factual programmes that I watch. I think we have discussed this before. I wonder if it is something in Five's intentional house style - the Chris Tarrant railway series, Alan Titchma

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 11 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

+1 With perhaps a warning that they may not suit non technical people.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 16 Hours ago by: NY

"Chris J Dixon" <chris@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message news:spt1ah5tf127tmeeql0c46eho1f2metlps@4ax.com... I saw an interview with an American advertising executive many years ago and he was railing against viewers who will insist on getti

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 16 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

I wonder if "BATC" would have worked? Rod.

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 17 Hours ago by: Chris J Dixon

That is something that I would really miss. We accumulate quite a lot of material and seem to run verging on full all the time. This is partly because the person selecting most material for recording has limited time available for view

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 17 Hours ago by: The Other John

About 40 years ago I was working for a post production company in Soho and my job title was Engineering Manager. One of the office girls asked me if I would sign her passport application and photo as a person in a responsible positio

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 18 Hours ago by: Pamela

Interesting document. Thanks for posting the link.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 18 Hours ago by: Pamela

The problem of the NI border certainly came up during the Brexit hustings in 2016 but it was breezily dismissed by Brexiteers and never got the attention it deserved. I recall thinking at the time the NI problem was unresolved but Brexi

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 19 Hours ago by: williamwright

Yes but the lower orders have many such misapprehensions. Bill

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 20 Hours ago by: Peter Johnson

It's an 8-day EPG, which is more managable after I had stopped it displaying the channels I don't watch and never will match. Select a programme to record and it asks if you want to record that episode or the series, if there is one. Rec

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 22 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Where is your *EVIDENCE* that this is not the case. I gave you *EVIDENCE* in the form of a documentary, which presumably you didn't bother to watch, about the *JOINT* Eire and NI delegation to the Brexshit talks pleading not to have a

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: Tweed

UK graduate engineering posts are remunerated at very much lower levels than in Germany. Dyson was moaning he couldn’t recruit in the UK. When you saw what he offered it was hardly surprising.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: Bob Latham

Not the case. The solutions offered were perfectly fine. The problem lay with the EU and Southern Island that wanted to use the issue to damage the UK and work towards a united Ireland. You're doing what you always do. Take your extrem

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: MB

In many countries, "Engineer" is a title used with the name like "Doctor" or "Professor" though do seem to have been debased from the number of alleged "experts" on TV programmes who are "Doctor" or "Professor" which often just seems t

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: JNugent

There's nothing you can do about that. Don't over-concern yourself with it. I'm sure that any person so qualified would be acceptable by the Passport Office. Even I have countersigned passport applications and photographs for people I

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 20 Days 23 Hours ago by: Robin

The list in the guidance has included "engineer with professional qualifications" for a long time now. And in any event the occupations mentioned are only a guide: other people of similar standing are and were acceptable.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days ago by: charles

Maybe a 'collloquialism', but its what most people think. I totally agree. Have they yet added "Chartered Engineer" to the list of those who can verify your passport photo? Or are we still 'outside the pale'?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 1 Hour ago by: JNugent

That's just a question of English colloquialism. Nothing to do with the professional status of graduate engineers.

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 1 Hour ago by: The Other John

A consultant I saw recently wrote back to my GP: 'Thank you for referring this lovely 82 year old'! If anyone was lovely it was her, she was gorgeous. :)

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

FALSE! FALSE! As already posted elsewhere in the thread, everyone in 1975 who bothered to inform themselves by reading newspapers, watching current affairs programmes on TV, etc, knew all along that what was ultimately intended was

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jeff Gaines

Spot on, in 1974 or 1975 I think?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 1 Hour ago by: MB

I suspect he might be referring to originally voting to join a trading partnership which evolved, without further votes into the start of a federalised Europe with its laws overruling UK law, an Army (even though they denied any plans

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 1 Hour ago by: charles

Theoretically. But, to most people 'an engineer' is the person who comes to mend the washing machine, etc.

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: charles

My doctor referred to me as "a good eighty"

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: JNugent

It is so in the UK as well. We also have a hierarchy of professional and academic qualifications for engineering, just as we do for medicine, the law, etc. And those at the top of their trade are respected. The unmade distinction is th

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: JNugent

They work even better when the electorate's view is expressed directly, without having be filtered through the beliefs of a particular and largely self-appointed set of individuals with a tendency to "go native" when faced with a libe

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: NY

"Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:t7ogmi$san$1@dont-email.me... How is it that Cliff Richard, in his 80s, looks like a man in his 30s who has been inexpertly "aged" by Makeup? Some people are just born to look eter

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: charles

In Germany, Engineering is a respected profession.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: Martin

You live in a democracy. A majority elected the government The government voted to join. That's how democracies work.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

It was obvious from the start that Boris was pretending three requirements could all be satisfied. 1) No noticable border between Eire and NI 2) No noticable border between NI and UK 3) No UK membership of the single market, etc. (1)

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: BrightsideS9

It is so in Northern Ireland.

Re: 4s and 5s missing from Freesat's EPG. (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 2 Hours ago by: Martin

No problem on my Freesat Humax

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Depends on the type of music, etc, but in some cases the LP has a very different level compression/EQ to a later CD version. In some cases this also shows up for a symultaneous release. Measurements to show this in some cases are on my w

Re: 4s and 5s missing from Freesat's EPG. (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 3 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

4HD, 5HD, Film4 and More4 all seem OK (Those are the only 4/5 channels that I bother to have in my EPG)

4s and 5s missing from Freesat's EPG.

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Posted: 21 Days 3 Hours ago by: PeterC

Over the last couple of days 5 and some other '5s' and 4 and other '4s', including Film 4 have had entries missing. Happens on Humax Foxsat HDR and on the Sammy TV. Is this due to Freesat not sending the data?

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 4 Hours ago by: Chris J Dixon

Freeview. Some reviews say the EPG is fiddly, and could be confusing, how do you find it? Can you add your own folders and move programmes around? Chris

Re: Relative signal strengths (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 7 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Well its working again last night. I wonder if it was on low power for some reason the day before? I'm still very suspicious that its not working well, since the discone experiment. I mean its not even tuned to the band, its broadband

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 14 Hours ago by: Woody

Yes, but that was a day later. Mind you at his age I would have expected him to be tucked up in bed by 20h given the hard work he was going to have to do the next day. Hard work? Climbing the stairs on the ancient London bus.......

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 18 Hours ago by: Paul Ratcliffe

He was on the 50s bus.

Re: Relative signal strengths (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 18 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

But how does it determine there's a signal ?  Usually for digital receivers if they can 'see' a valid COFDM signal. Point a DVB-T only receiver at a DVB-T2 mux, and it will also say 'no signal'

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 18 Hours ago by: Java Jive

It was, as it's name implied, a common market. Nevertheless, it was always implicitly or explicitly understood that further integration between member countries was widely expected: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union#Backgro

Re: Relative signal strengths (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 19 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

I'm not convinced its overload or lift conditions this time, It definitely says no signal. But I'll test it tonight again. Last time water had got into the coax. No sign of it on the bottom as you can often find if its got in. What is th

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

FALSE! The population has been split close to 50-50 on the matter for a number of years. That suggests that it wouldn't take very much to tip the matter either way. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1170409/scottish-independence/

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Posted: 21 Days 19 Hours ago by: MB

Which was purely a trading organisation, I think the Euro Army (like someone features) was denied. Don't know if it is true but I read once the Common Market has gone through a series of name changes without every bothering with the

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

I couldn't care a FF about views that you hold in private, but if you express views in public, you should be willing and able to support them with evidence. And since 1975 we were happy enough for our government to sign all the appro

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Posted: 21 Days 19 Hours ago by: MB

The problem is that there are no signs of the majority in Scotland wanting partition. Also the SNP oppose any part of Scotland opting out of partition and remaining in the UK, leaving r-Scotland to go and do their own thing.

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Posted: 21 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Been looking in the mirror again I see. Finally got i repaired after it cracked thge last time? Just stop lying.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

[Jeff Gaines has broken the quoting again, perhaps in an attempt to obscure that he wrote:] The only assumption I need to make here is that as you are continually making statements that you cannot corroborate, you are in fact lying.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

He had no choice. If you'd bothered to watch the documentary covering the negotiations that you were recommended to watch several years ago, you'd know that Eire and NI sent a joint delegation during the talks pleading to both sides t

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 20 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

On 07/06/2022 in message <0e1b17a3-bf5c-4dd1-8c4d-05b9d1ebe0f7n@googlegroups.com> R. Mark Clayton wrote: I thought 1984 was fiction, why do the thought police feel it is appropriate to ask me to change my views? NO! Remoaners keep

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 20 Hours ago by: Peter Johnson

Is your existing box for satellite or Freeview? If the latter look at the Humax Aura, a box that has three recorders and available in 1Tb and 2Tb versions. I've had mine for over 18 months and am very satisfied with it.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 21 Hours ago by: JNugent

"Obviously the whole UK must vote". Exactly. And apart from the fact that every citizen should have a say on constitutional matters anyway, it's the only way that a "Yes" vote will ever come about. In case of any doubt, I would vote

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Posted: 21 Days 21 Hours ago by: JNugent

But none of them so important that skilled people have more right to money out of the pockets of their fellow citizens than do unskilled people.

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Posted: 21 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Thanks, I seem to have been a bit slow to realise that and this is a nice group which I enjoy so I'll stop teasing him :-)

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 22 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

SNIP It was, but you were asked to look at the graphs based on published evidence [and implicitly retract your support for Schapp's false statement) In the very first UK wide referendum in 1975 it was >2:1 to stay in. Oh you mean lik

Re: PVR Choice (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 22 Hours ago by: alan_m

An Enigma 2 box running Openvix Most are better suited to Satellite (Freesat or Sky Free to Air) but some have the option of terrestrial HD tuners. I have a Enigma 2 box with 2 satellite and 2 terrestrial tuners. Openvix https://www.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 22 Hours ago by: Bob Latham

Jeff, a word to the wise. Trust me on this if nothing else. Don't argue with JJ. There is nothing more pointless, he's happy to argue black is white. He's a bit odd, just ignore him. Bob.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 23 Hours ago by: Bob Latham

I love the way you refer to "right-whinge people" and then go on to have a good whinge. :-) I agree that Boris has made a pig's ear of Brexit with things like leaving NI in the EU and the border down the Irish sea. Though in fairness t

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 23 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

I am expressing a view, you keep making assumptions. I didn't write anything on the side of a bus. You didn't believe it did you, you would have to be a complete muppet to believe that sort of marketing puff. Why on earth should

Re: Relative signal strengths (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 23 Hours ago by: Woody

If you are L O S to X P it is possible the issue is excess signal, not too little, plus - as a radio amateur you should know - we are at the time of year when we get many and various lift conditions that can cause all manner of problems

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 21 Days 23 Hours ago by: Java Jive

In what areas, where are your facts to support this claim? And now the goalposts move again. First it was: "We're doing very well". Next, after being challenged to justify that claim, it was: "I don't have to, it's just my view", now

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days ago by: Jeff Gaines

We are doing very well in many areas. It is you who is trying to interpret that as just relating to economics -where there are many factors affecting it of course. The quoting is getting a little confused but from memory the link was

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days ago by: Java Jive

On 05/06/2022 17:41, Jeff Gaines wrote: The statement "We're doing very well" is a lie, because the economic indicators available to us show that we are not. See also below. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/may/30/brexit-uk-f

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days ago by: R. Mark Clayton

SNIP I did and it is TRUE. There was lots of noise - road, wind, engine, but nevertheless I could easily differentiate. Probably the dynamic range, or just the much poorer S/N ratio on vinyl. Yes MEP's ARE elected. Who elected Joh

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: R. Mark Clayton

Border with Scotland in sparsely populated area, with few crossing points.

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

Yes, it would have made the imparting of understanding a great deal more straightforward. As Jake Thackray once said - in his song entitled, IIRC, 'The Bigger The Bull': If you must put people on pedestals, be sure to wear a big h

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: Martin

There's a lot of things stopping unskilled taking skilled jobs.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jeff Gaines

My first response in the thread was: "We owe him an enormous debt, I'm pretty sure that without him we would still be stuck in the EU." And others have been of a similar ilk, if you can find one that you believe is a lie then point i

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jeff Layman

Yes, I found that a bit puzzling. But near the bottom, in the section headed "Comparing voting at the 1975 and 2016 referendums", it states "For the 2016 EU referendum, detailed results for group voting were provided in a NatCen report

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

The very act of posting lies is an attempt to persuade others to believe them. In your own private fairy land you can believe what you like, all that is being asked of you is that you don't post about lies about the real world on publ

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

No-one's trying to tell you what to think, they are merely trying to persuade not to post lies in public.

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Posted: 22 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

Every post you make, why else would you make them?

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Posted: 22 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Perhaps you could point me to a post where I have tried to persuade people to my view? No idea and it's not relevant.

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Posted: 22 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

I am not trying to persuade others of anything. Sadly the die hard remoaners still continue to barf out their views as facts but I am sensible enough to ignore what they say - unless it is unusually outrageous.

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Posted: 22 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Why? I have expressed my view and people can take it or leave it or do you feel that others have a right to tell me how to think?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 2 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

If the UK wants Scotland to be independent then it should be, we should know from our imperial past that trying to force countries to stay in the empire doesn't work. Obviously the whole UK must vote.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: Tweed

I’m relatively optimistic. Although things run more slowly than some of us would like, the democratic system eventually disposes of those that do harm. Pragmatism will eventually prevail. The right’s influence will wither, as their at

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Indeed. But each Government bears the responsibility for the damage they inflicted on education. Thatcher was just one stark example of a series of wilful failings. Tony B Lair also did a lot of damage by shifting so much from training t

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Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Alas, t'other way round isn't so easy. So that may just put someone even poorer out of a potential job. And the main problem is the 'unskilled' workers who are unemployed in areas where there are no jobs for them - and they can't affor

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

In article <zf2dncNgUYMvUgD_nZ2dnUU7-fXNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: That - and the fact that they required a higher level of finance per student - was one of the main factors used to undermine them.

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Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

That's fine. None of us are paid to try and educate you.But JJ or others may still decide to warn others that your 'views' are vacuous and you refuse to learn. May help others even if you are beyond reason. Jim

Re: Relative signal strengths (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 3 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Sounds like you mean the SDN/COM4 mux which has LCNs 20 drama and 21 5USA That's on UHF E25, i.e. there are other muxes higher and lower frequencies than it It's a 200 kW mux like most of the others, except local TV and COM7 which are

Relative signal strengths

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Posted: 22 Days 4 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Here line of sight to Crystal Palace, I normally get very good tv reception with a wide band loft aerial. I fear it might well be time, once again to change its coax or get a decent aerial fro Freeview. T multiplex which has channels 20

PVR Choice

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Posted: 22 Days 4 Hours ago by: Chris J Dixon

My existing HDR-2000T 1TB has recently shown a surprising increase in free space displayed, which has been hovering near full for quite some time. The HDD check shows it as OK, but the Reserved Space is very large - I wonder if it has decid

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 12 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Someone who calls out liars like you. If you are not prepared to support your views in public, then that's a pretty clear indication to others that they're not worth anything, and that you're just lying. Your continuing to argue witho

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Posted: 22 Days 13 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Mmmmm! From memory because it's not worth the bother to check, I rather think that was someone else actually. TROLL! PROVEN LIE REPEATED! As has already been proven months ago in this same thread, the EU's system of government is a

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Posted: 22 Days 13 Hours ago by: Java Jive

WTF is he? Anyway, whoever he is, I don't need his authority to support him. Clearly, that's why you are making an arse of yourself by talking bollocks. But what you are not entitled to do is state your 'views' as though they are f

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Posted: 22 Days 13 Hours ago by: Java Jive

The LSE blogs are usually pretty good, but perhaps not in this case - graph after graph for 1975, but not a single one one for 2016, yet they claim to be comparing the two. And, besides, the vote has happened already, the current deba

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

On 06/06/2022 in message <0ab019b9-c0a7-46f6-bf22-e7afdbf6a8b9n@googlegroups.com> R. Mark Clayton wrote: "Remember, the Flat Earth Society has members all around the globe."

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 22 Days 23 Hours ago by: JNugent

Anyone wishing to proceed to a university to study for a B.Sc. in engineering would have found it easier via a THS. There is a long-standing (and essentially pointless) spat between those who regard "engineer" as a label only for grad

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days ago by: JNugent

The money we'd have to start paying again, obviously. They'd probably want arrears as well, if France had anything to do with it.

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Posted: 23 Days ago by: JNugent

I don't know how many English and Welsh education authorities even opened Technical High Schools, but it certainly wasn't many, whereas the 1944 Act authorised all relevant county-level authorities to provide Sec Mod, Tech High and Gra

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Posted: 23 Days ago by: JNugent

There's nothing (except arrogance manifested as misplaced pride) to stop "the skilled" from taking unskilled work as a stopgap. I remember taking a temporary job felling trees and clearing shrubbery in the planned path of a moto

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 2 Hours ago by: Max Demian

In practice the 'Techs' were really only for 11-plus failures, like the Secondary Moderns. And real engineers are expected to have degrees.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Martin

Hundreds of companies have moved to The Netherlands. Shell moved to UK on paper but in reality only a few senior Shell executives have moved to UK. Import exports between NL and UK are 30% of pre-Brexit levels.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Bob Latham

Really. This from the man who once told us that whilst driving at speed in his car listening to the radio, he could clearly tell the difference in sound quality between CDs and LPs and when asked, told us this was not surface noise,

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

On 06/06/2022 in message <0ab019b9-c0a7-46f6-bf22-e7afdbf6a8b9n@googlegroups.com> R. Mark Clayton wrote: No problems but I don't care about either. I have no obligation to do either except it's off topic for the group so the three o

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Martin

Unemployed are low skilled. Job vacancies are for skilled. For years the EU was UK's main trading partner. Look at import export figures now.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

You really should stop digging. :-) Jim

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Perhaps you should write fairy stories for a living. However I should point out that getting people to beleve delusions wrt actual reality is a risky activity. Particularly when they find out harsh reality is very different. Of course c

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

You'll be an SNP supporter, then. :-) Jim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Alas "view" has a different meaning to "fact". In this case "fairy tale" is fine as your "view" *provided* you don't delude others into believing it is the real world. Jim

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

SNIP You are quite right - you can believe the earth is flat if you like (NB I have seen the curve of the earth if you do), but if you choose to express this opinion in a public forum such as this you can expect two things: - 1. To be

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

May depend on the meaning of "us" I suspect. 8-] After all, Scotland voted against leaving the EU, and may become independent. It may then amuse the EU to welcome Scotland as a member in the future - if nothing else, amusing as a way to

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

I'd agree. The snag is that some right-whinge people still can't face the fact that Brexit *has* - and still *is* - causing various problems despite the promises made of a Golden Age arriving via Unicorns. One reason for this is the shee

Re: bug in AD. (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 3 Hours ago by: Dickie mint

In the early days of digital we had problems with some makes because the software designers were sloppy enough not to realise they had to sync the subtitles and AD stream more often. Both consequently ran slow. On 01/06/2022 16:27, Bri

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 4 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

I have no obligation to provide facts to support my view, who do you think you are? Are you saying I have no right to do that? Now we are independent I can think what I like and believe what I like, not your concern.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 4 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Do you have authority to speak for Mark Goodge? I am not interested in any facts you come up with, I have my view, I am entitled to my view and you can take it or leave it. I have no obligation to provide evidence, I have my view, I

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 5 Hours ago by: Jeff Layman

For clarification, "we" (if by that you mean the voting public) didn't choose to be part of the "Common Market" , or EEC as it then was. It was Edward Heath who took us in to it in 1972 without a referendum. The referendum, by the Wils

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 13 Hours ago by: Java Jive

So, as everyone knew all along, no *FACT*s to support your view. Your refusal even to read the ubiquitous contrary evidence is the clearest proof yet that this is now a quasi-religious belief on your part, and that you're abusing this

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 13 Hours ago by: Java Jive

The two people who are presenting you with *FACTS* relating to the economic state of Britain which you are desperately trying to ignore and pretend that you haven't seen. I note that you still haven't produced a single shred of eviden

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 14 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Or, God forbid, Cliff Richard.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 14 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Not sure who "we" is, do you have a split personality? I note your view "these things" are true, you are of course welcome to that view and free to express it. I am delighted that we have regained our independence, long may it last.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 14 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

On 05/06/2022 in message <b0593ef1-26bb-4178-bf0f-32ec065eb060n@googlegroups.com> R. Mark Clayton wrote: I have expressed my view and I'm happy with it. fortunately we live in a free country so you can have your view, I'm not interest

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 15 Hours ago by: tony sayer

In article <t7i81g$vu9$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> scribeth thus And i bet if that was in western America some silly bugger would claim they were UFO's!...

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 15 Hours ago by: tony sayer

In article <t7i2n4$ool$1@dont-email.me>, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> scribeth thus Yes pity her voice wasn't as good as it might have been, you can see her fiddling with her mix c monitor receiver in that song! Still a great performa

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 16 Hours ago by: Chris J Dixon

I noticed that she appeared to be adjusting the control for her earpiece, I guess she couldn't hear either. ;-) Chris

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Wilf

Thanks. Makes sense.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

trolling alert! About time you looked at the facts for goodness sake. OK even I think the Grauniad is a bit left wing, but what they didn't do (and Brextremists regularly did) is make up the facts in their story. Trade has reco

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

It is sheer hypocrisy. John "slimeball" Redwood continued to support leaving the EU and being well in with, if not a member of the so called European Research Group even after his constituency voted 56% remain. Note that the "Research"

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Tweed

Exactly. Businesses on either side want to trade, and the existing mess is hindering this.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

We don't *NEED* to make these things up, because they are true, it's people like you who can't face simple economic facts that are making things up. You've now been given 11 links from a wide spectrum of sources, including a *GOVERNME

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Because there are EU companies losing market share in the UK as well UK companies losing market share in the EU, though of course the latter is much more significant as a %-age of GDP.

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Or perhaps you need to learn to appreciate a joke, even when it's against yourself.

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

On 05/06/2022 in message <eb1070b1-0ddf-479f-988a-148d8d4a44fan@googlegroups.com> R. Mark Clayton wrote: You really could do with learning some manners, nobody respects a sore loser like you.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Wilf

Sounds nice, but why would they ever accept us back in?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 19 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

On 05/06/2022 in message <aa01b0e8-79ea-49f4-91e1-6e9b2a67c95dn@googlegroups.com> R. Mark Clayton wrote: Wow, in reply to a complaint of left wing bullshit you provide a link to left wing bullshit, you couldn't make it up. About time

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 20 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Yes, having said that, I thought the audio was a bit flat and I went to sleep half way through, but then I'm prone to do that as I get older! I guess the lack of being able to see it was a lot to do with it. I did get a bit annoyed by th

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 20 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff

Sounds like a lot of drones to me. I know several companies have been working on 500 drone systems for close formation. I bet a stiff breeze would bugger it up though. Brian

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 21 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”. Arthur C. Clarke 1962 I haven't, but is it just that they are pointing away from you?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 21 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

SNIP Afraid not, look at the facts, not what Grant Schapps said this morning (best in G7, when we are probably the worst) For some facts have a glance at https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/may/30/brexit-uk-firms-eu-trade-northern-

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

One of the big problems in the UK economy is the way Westminster Gov has systematically cut provison for FE training of skills.(1) Started when Milk-Snatcher decided to abolish the system of training levy boards that supported apprentice

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: Java Jive

+1, but unfortunately that cannot happen while some still keep chanting mantras in a vain attempt to make lies come true, while ignoring the actual truths that are constantly before their eyes. Yes, someday it'll almost certainly have

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: Tweed

It’s time to move on. The damage has been done. Time to consider how to fix things. Fortunately there are the beginnings of murmurs in political circles about rejoining the single market. I don’t see it happening for a number of years

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: Java Jive

So tell us do, which companies *have* moved to the UK since Brexshit? While you're doing the necessary research for your fake news, you may care to consider the following real news demonstrating the 'patriotism' of those who led us dow

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

creative people to design it plus techies to make it happen

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 23 Days 23 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Ain't modern technology wonderful - close to magic!

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days ago by: Tweed

This is the outfit that runs drone shows https://skymagic.show/

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days ago by: Andy Burns

They set up a local RTK GPS station, which gives the drones about 2 cm positioning accuracy, design the show, upload the sequence of locations/times/colours to each drone ... press go.

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jeff Gaines

Thanks for all the replies, drones it was :-) They must have some quite interesting software to program that number of drones.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: Jim Lesurf

I have worked in a commercial environment. For a variety of commercial concerns, etc. Some of them were significant exporters. My old research and dev group also both bought from overseas and sold there. For outwith the EU that was at t

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: Woody

That one minor sound problem would have been Diana Ross' first song - they seemed to sort it after that (probably whispered in her ear told hold the mic nearer!)

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 1 Hour ago by: Andy Burns

xylobands been standard fayre at e.g. Glastonbury and coldplay concerts for several years, videos at the usual places ...

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 2 Hours ago by: Tweed

100% agree. I’m not a great music fan, but I really enjoyed the various light shows. I saw the audience appeared to have led wrist bands. These appeared to all change colour together. I wonder how that was implemented?

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

Oh FFS lighten up !   It wasn't going to, nor able to,  have acts that were everyone's cup of tea. It was a damn good party, visually very impressive, and badly needed after all the shit we've endured in recent years

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 5 Hours ago by: MB

Wasn't it drones, I saw a comment somewhere saying that. Quite a number of performers that I have no wish to see again! I saw a comment there was one minor sound problem with one but that is to be expected on a big production like th

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 5 Hours ago by: MB

And usually not reported by the Left wing media. They will report a company moving something to Europe but ignore those moving to the UK.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 5 Hours ago by: MB

And quite possibly getting a payment.

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 6 Hours ago by: Woody

No, they were drones as first seen in the New Year display either this year or last - can't remember which. IMSMC there were something like 2000 of them and once the programming and configuration had been done they all operated and mov

Re: Buck House Light hHow (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 6 Hours ago by: Tweed

I have the same question! I initially thought drones having seen that done by China, but there were too many pixels and it went on for too long.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 14 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Yes, the pair of you. The bullshit is all yours, you have yet to produce a single relevant and convincing *FACT* to support your claims that everything is rosy. Strange that no-one else, not even most Brexshitters, agree with you.

Buck House Light hHow

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Posted: 24 Days 14 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

I watched the concert earlier, great start - a performer and some songs I knew, didn't recognise any of them hereafter. The light show was impressive. I can understand the projection on to the front of the palace but were the various ef

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 14 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Oh dear, pot-kettle-black. We're doing very well, left wing remoaner bullshit isn't convincing. Nonsense, it's been excellent, your just a moaning remoaner, give it a break.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 16 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Oh, grow up - if you can't argue better than a ten year old child then it would be much better for you to keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you're a fool than to open it and remove all shadow of doubt! Before Brexshit, we d

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 16 Hours ago by: MB

He should have been honoured for that if there was any justice but the senior civil servants have too much influence and still have a grudge about losing a chance to get on the Brussels gravy train.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 17 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

SNIP Sure. Lets suppose I wanted to be a lorry driver. Although now retired I do have a driving license that even covers LGV's, but to drive HGV's I need expensive ££££ training, a £££ medical, pass an HGV driving test (year+ wa

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 18 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

Well most of the jobs available outside hospitality are highly skilled, whereas there was an extremely strong correlation between Leave voters and low educational attainment (no A' levels - ONS - EC correlation based on Census & vote). A

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 18 Hours ago by: R. Mark Clayton

Very close just a couple of cm - he talks b*****s. That must be due to Covid, war in Ukraine, the French, EU, P&O - anything but Brexit...

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 18 Hours ago by: Java Jive

No, you do your own research, ie find *facts*, not bullshit propaganda. While they read unrealistic shit on social media posted by bigots like you.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 19 Hours ago by: Java Jive

But as one relatively small country we have less bargaining clout than the entire EU, so we don't get such good deals. Implicit self-contradiction: If reasonable jobs are really there, they should be being filled, but they are not, s

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 19 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Do your own research, there are daily reports of things we have been able to do now we are independent. Then they will have to carry on sitting on their backsides and scrounging off the rest of us.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 19 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

Yes, of course! Have you never worked in a commercial environment? We are free to negotiate on our own behalf, not have the EU do it for us. I have no idea, if you want to know you can look it up I'm sure. People who need jobs need

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 19 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

:-)

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 20 Hours ago by: williamwright

Yes but I'm certified so I can. Bill

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 20 Hours ago by: williamwright

In the sense of 'make use of' perhaps? Bill

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 20 Hours ago by: Java Jive

You voted for them. We couldn't've kept our economy going when the rest of the world was shutting down anyway. It's the prices of fossil fuels that are going up, not renewables. By all means continue to ignore reality, why change t

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 21 Hours ago by: Java Jive

[Poor snipping has corrupted the quoting] Name an action that we are taking now that we couldn't have taken before. I don't suppose that many of them can afford one.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Erm... Well when it comes to factors like trade our 'freedom' has to also deal with the other countries having their own 'freedom' to require different conditions of trade to us. e.g. - the USA's wish to extend patent cash income for dru

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 22 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

As do you sometimes.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 23 Hours ago by: williamwright

I know someone -- a local dignitary -- who has a large picture of the Queen on on the wall of his larger living room. There is also a frame that contains a picture of Nigel on one side and one of Winston on the other. Before any sort o

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 24 Days 23 Hours ago by: williamwright

You sound a bit bonkers. Bill

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days ago by: Jeff Gaines

Garbage. There are many outside factors affecting the economy and we are now free to take our own action to deal with them. Did you know that the number of unemployed is now about equal to the number of job vacancies? Time for the une

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days ago by: Bob Latham

The economy was destroyed by: 1. A socialist government calling itself Conservative, that spent enormous sums of money it didn't have. 2. Shutting down the economy for two years. Predicted as 'inevitable' at the time. 3. An absurd e

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days ago by: Brian G

Ho long do we give terrestrial freeview other than the main channels I wonder? Seems everything except some repeats and the odd soap will be either axed or behind pay walls or maybe on Sky. which amounts to the same thing. Why not just

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 1 Hour ago by: Java Jive

Why are you reviving a three-month old OT polical thread that has already been done to death? Bollocks, why should Farage's xenophobic fake news be any more acceptable than Putin's?

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 1 Hour ago by: Scott

Would the same principle apply to TV then? This would mean the earlier suggestion to reallocate the red button bandwidth during programmes is a non-starter.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 2 Hours ago by: Wilf

It was a joint effort.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: Martin

So it was him and not Boris who destroyed the UK economy?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

However, "appearing" isn't a synonym for "employs". Jim

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

AFAIK it only changes at programme junctions and on some radios it causes an audible dropout.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jeff Gaines

We owe him an enormous debt, I'm pretty sure that without him we would still be stuck in the EU.

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Maybe 5select and/or TBN get the boot?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 3 Hours ago by: Bob Latham

Unhinged hatred. Bob.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 6 Hours ago by: MB

There cannot be many radio or TV stations that he has not appeared on so it is going to be quiet time for you.

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 6 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Presumably you obey Stop Funding Hate and refuse to shop at Tesco, Morrisons, Waitrose, Aldi, Holland&Barret, Lidl, Fortnum&Mason, Sainsburys, Marks&Spencer, and Coop?

Re: The sound of Farage (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 9 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

I refuse to watch a TV station that employs the stinking turd in humanoid form know as "Farage".

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 25 Days 19 Hours ago by: Max Demian

I've never had problems getting VLC to use subtitles. It will give you a choice of subtitle files if they have similar names to the video file. I've managed to get VLC to embed subtitles in the video file, but it's a bit complicated.

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 18 Hours ago by: Scott

I think the question being asked is where does the bandwidth for BBC Four HD come from?

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 20 Hours ago by: Max Demian

CBBC HD timeshares with BBC3 HD so there's no extra bandwidth required.

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 20 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

[] I don't know. Certainly if I'm watching one of the channels that switches to just a card (usually Smithsonian), the card is displayed without any action on my part. Though there is a _long_ pause. Almost certainly in some cases. I

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 21 Hours ago by: Scott

Would they have to match the programme timings so as not to reconfigure during a programme? (I don't think the DAB bitrate is changed during programmes?) Would changing the configuration cause problems for PVRs?

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 26 Days 21 Hours ago by: J. P. Gilliver (John

They obviously slipped up with that web page; it displayed fine on my old Firefox. I thought it was BBC policy that all webpages require a bleeding-edge browser (and even then often malfunction). (-: Yes, I'd heard that - and it se

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 1 Hour ago by: Tweed

What’s the “newly identified capacity” on PSB3? Have they been carelessly wasting bits until now….?

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 1 Hour ago by: Mark Carver

The idea of CBBC and BBC 4 going on line only, so far is only a *_suggestion_* and even it happens, is still 3 or 4 years away. Anyway, CBBC HD is on PSB 3 already

Re: BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3 (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 1 Hour ago by: Scott

Thank goodness. Life would not be the same without Bob the Builder. What about CBBC? I thought I read it was going online only. There were also reports of BBC Four going online only. If Radio 4 Extra moves online, will this improve

BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD to move to PSB 3

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Posted: 27 Days 2 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

Seems that when COM 7 closes at the end of this month, BBC 4 HD and Cbeebies HD will move to PSB 3 (aka the 'main' HD mux) BBC News HD on DTT will close https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/work-warning/news/waw-com7

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

VLC seems to have a 'use subtitle file' option when playing. But I've never experimented with it so have no idea how it works. I also wonder if ffmpeg would 'fix' this for people that need/want by combining the subtitles file into a .

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 27 Days 16 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

The recent(?) changes I didn't know about appear to be that it now does do exactly that, but perhaps only if you use the command line rather than the weird web interface. Yes. I can see that would be better.

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Posted: 27 Days 21 Hours ago by: Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)

I notice that on several makes of TV, when an ad break occurs in the middle of an AD bit of info, the following adds stay ducked down as if the AD command is still in force. You can get it back by moving channels and coming back but the

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Fortunately, R3 proms are still 320k audio. I'll experiment, thanks! That said, for most programmes I'm quite happy with 1280 x 720. Jim

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 3 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

Yes, my main gripe about BBC iPlayer files is the poorer-rhan-necessary audio. They used to provide 320k aac... until a suit noticed the engineers had left that going. The excuse has been that "some consumer devices can't cope". Which

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 4 Hours ago by: NY

"Brian Gregory" <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote in message news:jfngbdFjim7U1@mid.individual.net... It's a shame that get_iplayer uses adjectives to describe resolution/frame-rate, and doesn't even list all the options an

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 14 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

Thanks. Ah, I didn't know about --tv-quality, which seems to be what's needed to get 1920x1080.

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 15 Hours ago by: Java Jive

In the last month or few ... Art That Made Us Beauty Of Maps Gilbert & Sullivan - The Gondoliers Scotland's Sacred Islands .... all 1920 x 1080 x 50p, but audio only 128kbps, Stereo, 48kHz - the latter would be a bi

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 16 Hours ago by: Brian Gregory

Really? I don't think I've ever got anything better than 1280x720x50p from get_iplayer.

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 16 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Actually, it's commonly the case that WiFi travels better through a house vertically than it does horizontally.

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 16 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Actually, 1920x1080x50p is increasingly becoming the norm for new programmes or re-broadcasts of significant older ones. However, the audio is still a bit crap at 128kbps, Stereo, 48kHz.

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 16 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Note: Beware, in what follows, that for clarity I've used my own choice of capitalisation and spelling. See the links for the accepted names! First, there was GetFlashVideos (from memory, I *think* no longer works or supported - no-

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 18 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

I used to download and keep things from Youtube, but as I can access pretty much anything directly, any time I want, there seems no point. I just use a streaming box. It's often quicker to type in the name of a piece of music in the Yout

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 19 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

In article <266dnVUv-P5ppQv_nZ2dnUU7-KfNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote: YTDL still works. The snag for me is that I have avoided 'registering' with YT so can't directly see what they offer and rely on l

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 20 Hours ago by: Max Demian

Unfortunately YouTube have disabled the add-ons/extensions to Firefox/Edge that enable you easily to download them to keep (after extracting the audio), presumably to promote their own (expensive) Download option.

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 23 Hours ago by: Roderick Stewart

If you don't already know them, you might be interested in a Youtube channel called "Colin", and another called "AntPDC", which have lots of (mostly) English music items to explore, and surprisingly they don't seem to have been subject

Re: Entertainment Movies (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 23 Hours ago by: BrightsideS9

Malwarebytes blocks site due to fraud.

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 23 Hours ago by: williamwright

What's this about? Marbles or goolies? Bill

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 23 Hours ago by: williamwright

It's possible to do this invisibly with practice. Bill

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 28 Days 23 Hours ago by: williamwright

I bet that if it was properly the difference would be unmeasurable. Bill

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Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 2 Hours ago by: MB

I will still have them, just a matter of finding them!

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 3 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

 You can join them with Krone blocks. Absolutely no different to the punch-down blocks on the back of RJ-45 (etc) sockets and patch panels

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: NY

"williamwright" <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote in message news:jfl8ndF6ce3U1@mid.individual.net... Ah! The voice of experience and common sense! Thank you. Hadn't thought of that.

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: NY

"Tweed" <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t74ac5$sak$1@dont-email.me... After another 1-second power cut the other day, I experimented with not starting a couple of the Velop nodes to reduce the channel congestion on 2.4 G

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: Chris Green

Not as good in impedance/electrical terms as a properly crimped RJ45 plug surely? Having said that though UTP connections are amazingly tolerant of not doing them exactly right, I have long cables (to garage and such) which I'm sure break

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 4 Hours ago by: Robin

+1 Also: a. the socket doesn't have to be on the wall so long as it's fastened so the solid cable doesn't move b. sluts (e.g. me) have been known to ease the cable through a gap between floorboards so there's no drilling

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 5 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

You can just run bare cable, and at each end terminate it onto an RJ-45 wall socket. Requires less skill (and tools) than crimping on an RJ-45 plug. So only a 5 or 6mm hole required

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 6 Hours ago by: Tweed

I’ve got three tri band Linksys Velop nodes in the house and they just work. You need a bit of thought as to their location. The slave nodes need to be between the master node and your equipment. The temptation is to put them next to yo

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 11 Hours ago by: williamwright

Dare I suggest cutting the cable and then making a proper soldered and heat-shrunk joint? However, a large hole is just the same as a small one, except that it's easier to thread cable through. It makes no practical difference what th

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 11 Hours ago by: williamwright

Thanks to modern SDS drills, brickwork isn't a problem at all. Actually, internal masonry in very old buildings is usually dead easy to get through; they used to use all sorts of shit. With external walls, the worst thing is if there's

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 12 Hours ago by: Davey

snip I agree with your comments on holes. Not long ago, I was capable of making up the RJ45 connectors, but since then, my fingertips have massively lost sensitivity, and I doubt that I could do that now. But your comment on Mesh repea

Re: BBC fiddling about again then

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Posted: 29 Days 14 Hours ago by: NY

"Davey" <davey@example.invalid> wrote in message news:t73430$uli$1@dont-email.me... The difficulty is that an RJ45 plug needs a much larger drill that you'd imagine for it to fit through the hole. Or else you have to feed bare cable and

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 17 Hours ago by: Davey

It is thought to be about 400 years old, but nobody around here remembers it being built. It was a pub until 1937....hic... It is thankfully not Listed, by our choice, as you can't do anything if it is. We would not have been able to ha

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

True. But wrt the video not enough of a loss to bother me much usually. I can also capture the broadcast from DVB-T/T2 but generally don't bother. Jim

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

I can understand your last point as I'm essentially now a 24/7 carer for my better half. However you can get long ethernet cables and also things like strips of 'walk on' protectors for cables under carpets, etc. So minimal DIY skills a

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 22 Hours ago by: Jim Lesurf

In article <0pg69h57p9a01dtjbmgk1s44ujobi9vh6q@4ax.com>, Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote: I also have a number of versions of them. But the point is that versions differ, so it is good to have new ones to hear. YT

Re: BBC fiddling about again then (thread)

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Posted: 29 Days 23 Hours ago by: williamwright

No-one will know about internal holes. Just put some grime down in the area. Bill

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