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Apple may have to cough up $1bn to Brits in latest iPhone Batterygate claim

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 4 Hours 4 Minutes ago by: NewsKrawler

https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/17/apple_may_face_another_expensive/ Apple may have to cough up $1bn to Brits in latest iPhone Batterygate claim Lawsuit took its time, just like your older iOS handset. Another day, another legal claim

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 3 Days 1 Hour ago by: notya...@gmail.com

If they do it will be proof of failure of the CMA, allowing the 121 - Orange merger and then even worse allowing BT to take it over. Never mind roaming - the cost of a one minute landline to mobile call with BT as about 50p.

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 3 Days 6 Hours ago by: Tweed

Cartel like behaviour. They’ve set the pricing to make it just tolerable for those that go away on holiday for a few weeks each year. I’m expecting O2 to charge soon, just because they can.

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 3 Days 12 Hours ago by: Chris in Makati

I assume there must be enough willing buyers out there who are prepared to pay these roaming charges or they wouldn't be able to get away with it. There are plenty of alternative ways to get data and phone calls while overseas, so the c

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 4 Days 23 Hours ago by: notya...@gmail.com

I do. When I visited O2's call centre where they run Giff-Gaff and Tesco's operation.

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 5 Days 3 Hours ago by: Martin Brown

Brexit has *enabled* them to price gouge. We are now outside the EU so they can now charge what they like. Take it or leave it. Willing seller willing buyer are both required. UK isn't called "the golden island" for nothing. Driving o

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 5 Days 5 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

Tesco Mobile is a 50/50 joint venture with Tesco and O2/Virgin

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 5 Days 19 Hours ago by: Tweed

The whole thing is consumer gouging. Let’s be clear, nothing has changed for the operators at wholesale level. The EU rules only affect what they can charge the end user. The internal settlement costs between operators for intra EU roam

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 5 Days 20 Hours ago by: Woody

Not sure where you got that one Mark. AFAIK Tesco is a MVNO so run there own operation. If they are resuming charging in the EU it must be of their own conscious decision. O2 is now half owned by Liberty Global within the VM family but

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 5 Days 20 Hours ago by: notya...@gmail.com

Well indeed. Vodafone, Telephonica and Orange had extensive European networks, so the marginal cost to them was negligible, and they probably had a mutual settlement aggrerement given that on average each would source and receive roughly

Re: Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 6 Days 1 Hour ago by: Pamela

Presumably UK mobile operators were making money with the previous tariffs where roaming costs and calls to the EU were cheaper. Wouldn't new much-increased profit margins be deemed excessive by Ofcom?

Tesco snout in the EU roaming trough

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 6 Days 2 Hours ago by: notya...@gmail.com

Alas Tesco (clone of O2 and managed by them) is to reintroduce rip off roaming charges from next year. https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2022/06/tesco-europe-roaming-charges/ Does not auger well for O2 not bringing them back too, as

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 8 Days 17 Hours ago by: tony sayer

In article <t874bi$ndg$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> scribeth thus Very poor design not to be able to cope with that!, got a 4 way USB adapter in my car, many differing phones have been and are charged in that

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 14 Days 6 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

I have a 65W charger in my car (tiny thing, matchbox size) which can run/charge any of my USB-C devices.

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 14 Days 6 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

The car doesn't push amps, the cooler pulls them. They may fit thicker wire to reduce voltage drop, do newer toyotas now use Silver/Calcium batteries like fords, at a slightly higher voltage?

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 14 Days 6 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Yes GPS can be power-hungry. How much current would the tablet like for 'rapid' charging? How much current will the car's USB socket supply? Maybe a cigar lighter USB charger can provide more current ...

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 14 Days 15 Hours ago by: David Woolley

Even now, I believe the only current limit on cars is a fuse, which limits current by cutting it off suddenly and permanently. Assuming that both vehicles were nominally 12 volts, the only reasons there might be a difference are that t

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 14 Days 20 Hours ago by: Peter Johnson

OK. I'm typing nonsense. But the latest cars must have more output on the lighter circuits otherwise how could the (same) cooler box be colder?

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 14 Days 22 Hours ago by: Java Jive

Tx Theo, see below ... On 13/06/2022 21:51, Theo wrote: No, as described above, I found it kept running down and switched itself off no matter how long I had been travelling in the car. I made my first long journey, about 700 miles, a

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 15 Days 3 Hours ago by: Scott

Thanks for all the comments. This fits in with my line of thinking. Another question: I have connected the TomTom to the USB-A port. When the engine is started the TomTom momentarily shuts down then restarts. It does not do this with

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 15 Days 14 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Why? It's a *CAR* charger, it's from a reasonable name brand, it knows there are going to be voltage transients, it'll be designed for that, they provide a £1500 connected equipment guarantee. <https://www.belkin.com/uk/support-arti

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 15 Days 15 Hours ago by: Theo

If you leave the tablet turned on, ie don't shut it down, it's possible you aren't running the engine long enough to give it much charge. eg if you drive for half an hour, if the USB socket is only giving it 500mA, it's only received 250

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 15 Days 16 Hours ago by: Chris Green

You can't really "put more amps" down a circuit. Unless the voltage drops ridiculously when you load it the current is determined almost totally by the load. A 12 volt socket is a 12 volt socket and only if you blow the fuse will anythi

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 15 Days 19 Hours ago by: Peter Johnson

The Toyotas that I've had over the last ten years or so all had (have in the case of the current car) wirefree charging but the older ones weren't very good at it. The last car and the current one are. But I have a cooler box that plugs

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 15 Days 23 Hours ago by: Mark Carver

Motor cars are full of their own electronics, and have been for decades now, I've never seen any evidence that spikes from starting the engine are a particular problem ? I do remember getting Alternator 'Whine' when I fitted a cassette

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 16 Days ago by: Java Jive

Despite others' replies up to this point, all of which I've read, I have to report that trying to keep my tablet charged via the USB socket of my Skoda Fabia doesn't really work reliably. Without any warning, after some distance, I fi

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 16 Days ago by: Martin Brown

I'm more paranoid about the currents flowing and electrical spikes from the near dead short instantaneous spike when it begins to turn over. It is the sort of annoying thing that you only find out in an emergency. Most of the time it r

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 16 Days ago by: Theo

If the charger adapter is any good, it should be able to handle voltage dropouts like that. It only needs to provide 5v, and I hope your battery voltage is not dropping that far. A decent adapter should also filter the EMI, although I s

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 16 Days 1 Hour ago by: Martin Brown

If it is an expensive phone then I wouldn't really want to have it plugged into a charger when the starter motor is used. That said modern cars now do hot restarts once the engine is warm and I have never had any problems. The only one

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 16 Days 4 Hours ago by: Scott

Thanks.

Re: Charging in car (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 16 Days 19 Hours ago by: Andy Burns

Yes.

Charging in car

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 16 Days 20 Hours ago by: Scott

I want to be able to charge my Pixel 5 phone (USB-C) in the car in emergencies. I looked at the Internet for charging cables and saw all sorts of contradictory advice: charging in the car will damage the phone, there is no problem at all w

Re: Blutooth podcast issues (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 18 Days 4 Hours ago by: Chris

It's really difficult to say as it is a combination of features in Apple's CarPlay and Android Auto, the level of support for each by your car and settings in your phone(s). My 4 yo Mazda's support is really basic - bluetooth only - an

Blutooth podcast issues

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 18 Days 16 Hours ago by: Tim+

I’m beginning to get a wee bit fed up with the way that every time my wife gets in my car her iPhone starts playing from her list of podcasts (resuming wherever she left off) and she can access the stored podcasts via the on screen menus

Three - further P&G price hikes

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 21 Days 22 Hours ago by: notya...@gmail.com

Another text from three announcing further huge price increases - calls -> 35p/m, SMS -> 15p, data 10p/MB (double). So much for their 321 promise. At least this time they are offering a refund, so we probably will take it. Over-run tarif

Re: old old motorola phone, flaire aka orange mr20 (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 26 Days 21 Hours ago by: notya...@gmail.com

I don't think they did, my O and 121 SIMs still worked until I got them replaced by EE. Each used to roam on other network depending on where one was, which on an old Mot' phone gave an orange light like when you were abroad. See below

Re: old old motorola phone, flaire aka orange mr20 (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 28 Days 20 Hours ago by: Theo

Supposedly other phones of that generation need an unlocking box: https://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1809167-How-to-unlock-GSM-Motorola-StarTAC-GSM-(MicroTAC)-Motorola-Select-Series-phones Although you could try calling EE and a

Re: old old motorola phone, flaire aka orange mr20 (thread)

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 28 Days 21 Hours ago by: Woody

That's curious. When I retired I asked if my long-held number could be transferred to PAYG - and it was very easily. I still have that number on an Orange SIM and it works perfectly. I would take the phone into an EE shop and ask them

old old motorola phone, flaire aka orange mr20

uk.telecom.mobile

Posted: 29 Days ago by: Neil

hi i have a old mr20 by orange, it did work till the orange sims got killed by ee. but course the handset is orange locked. does anyone still have the codes/generator to make a unlocking number up? thanks.

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