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* The original computing engine was trinary (0,1,2)Cornette B. Meltzer
+- Re: The original computing engine was trinary (0,1,2)D
+* Re: The original computing engine was trinary (0,1,2)Blue-Maned_Hawk
|`* Re: The original computing engine was trinary (0,1,2)Julieta Shem
| `* Re: The original computing engine was trinary (0,1,2)Jan van den Broek
|  `- Re: The original computing engine was trinary (0,1,2)Julieta Shem
`- Re: The original computing engine was trinary (0,1,2)Thomas Koenig

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 by: Cornette B. Meltzer - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:05 UTC

Imagine what the world would be like today if we had that much extra
computing power. Instead, we're stuck in a binary-based system.

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 by: D - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:07 UTC

On Wed, 21 Feb 2024, Cornette B. Meltzer wrote:

> Imagine what the world would be like today if we had that much extra
> computing power. Instead, we're stuck in a binary-based system.
>
>
Quantum computing to the rescue!

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 by: Blue-Maned_Hawk - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 14:18 UTC

A trinary computer would still be turingcomplete, and therefore exactly as
powerful as a binary one, to the degree that computing power can be
quantified.

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 by: Julieta Shem - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 04:15 UTC

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Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> writes:

> A trinary computer would still be turingcomplete

Technically, we could have a binary or trinary computer that's not
Turing complete. Turing completeness is a function of the instruction
set of the computer. Even more technically, it also requires an
infinite memory. (But when someone says---it's Turing complete---, it's
usually just meant that it's able to loop.)

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 by: Jan van den Broek - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 06:59 UTC

2024-02-22, Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> schrieb:
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It's possible the someone just wants to fill that group with
off-topic postings.

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 by: Julieta Shem - Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:45 UTC

Jan van den Broek <balglaas@dds.nl> writes:

> 2024-02-22, Julieta Shem <jshem@yaxenu.org> schrieb:
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> It's possible the someone just wants to fill that group with
> off-topic postings.

Let's not help them.

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 by: Thomas Koenig - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:26 UTC

Why rec.sport.pro-wrestling ?

Cornette B. Meltzer <banana@various.places> schrieb:
> Imagine what the world would be like today if we had that much extra
> computing power. Instead, we're stuck in a binary-based system.

It's not a matter of tradition, it's a matter of efficiency - is
it easier to differentiate electrically between two logic levels
and have 50% more things to switch, or go to three logic levels?

At the current technology, it would actually be more efficient
to emulate ternary (or, while you're at it, balanced ternary)
with two bits per three values, wasting one state in four.

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