Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> wrote

> That's the reason why I use a Google Pixel because this seemed to be the
> best choice after reading many product reviews and asking others who
> already own this device.

Adults on this newsgroup will notice this "Arno Welzel" is a herd animal.
He doesn't make any of his own decisions - he only follows marketing.

And, so far, he's always been dead wrong in everything as a result.

For example, he insisted that aux ports don't exist on any Androids, and
then when he was confronted with the fact they do, he tried to insult
Carlos with kindergarten taunts because Carlos provided proof with cites.

In those ways, this new "Arno Welzel" is no different than the iKooks are.

On 2023-11-17 07:02, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Alan, 2023-11-16 22:38:
>
>> On 2023-11-15 20:55, Arno Welzel wrote:
> [...]
>>> In the end customers buy, what is available and what they believe is
>>> "good". And this is not always a logical decision but also influenced by
>>> product reviews, what your friends and collegues also use and so on.
>>
>> And out comes the arrogance. Everyone is a gullible rube... ...but you?
>
> No - why do you think so? I am also influenced by product reviews etc..
>
> That's the reason why I use a Google Pixel because this seemed to be the
> best choice after reading many product reviews and asking others who
> already own this device.
>
>>> When Apple once decided to remove the headphone jack many people
>>> complained about missing a feature and Apple . But at the same time
>>> Apple also invented Air Pods and told the customers that using Bluetooth
>>> is much better than using cables. Before this was the customers choice,
>>> afterwords the customers *had* to either buy an USB-C adapter to be able
>>> to use their existing headphones or they had to get a new USB-C
>>> headphone. And many decided to get bluetooth headsets instead.
>>
>> But what you fail to understand is that those people could CHOOSE to buy
>> some other phone that still had a headphone jack.
>
> Apple still sells iPhones and in certain regions iPhones even start to
> become really popular - so the missing headphone jack seems not to be a
> problem.
>
> [...]
>>> Manufacturers don't only sell what people prefer, but also design
>>> products and make people buy them. Also keeping people to buy new
>>> products is a big part of that.
>>
>> They don't...
>>
>> ...EVER...
>>
>> ...MAKE anyone buy anything.
>
> They do. That's what marketing is about. Convincing people that your
> product is the best and they should buy it.

No. The literally DO NOT.

The may persuade, they influence, but they do not—CANNOT—"MAKE" anyone
do ANYTHING.

>
> Are your really that naive to believe that all customers will always
> ignore advertising and product reviews? And did you ever think about the
> questions, why even well YouTube influencers with a wider reach can ask
> for quite high prices for product placement? Manufacturers wouldn't pay
> for such things if it wouldn't have any effect at all.

I'm wise enough to know the difference between "influence" and "make".

On 2023-11-16 22:55, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>> But amazingly, you chose not to buy a RAV4 once it changed...
>>>>> ...and there are people here who insist that that choice wasn't
>>>>> possible
>>>> for you.
>>>
>>> I don't understand that.  I am NOTHING if not sensible!
>>>
>>> If I weren't sensible I'd buy a Honds S2000.
>>
>> Nope, that would not be sensible because the parts are difficult /
>> impossible and expensive to get.
>
> And the tires worthy of the car cost a small fortune.  Nonetheless, it's
> the most fun I've ever had driving a car even if I botched more than
> half the shifts.  SIX gears?  In a 3" square area?  My Corolla is a lot
> of fun on that mountain road, but the S2K was better.
>
> I asked the friend to give my car-mad grandson a ride, but only scare
> him a little. He was happy.

I've been a race driving instructor since 2016. I get a chance to scare
people "just a little" on a semi-regular basis.

:-)

On 11/17/23 9:48 AM, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-11-16 22:55, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>> But amazingly, you chose not to buy a RAV4 once it changed...
>>>>>> ...and there are people here who insist that that choice wasn't
>>>>>> possible
>>>>> for you.
>>>>
>>>> I don't understand that.  I am NOTHING if not sensible!
>>>>
>>>> If I weren't sensible I'd buy a Honds S2000.
>>>
>>> Nope, that would not be sensible because the parts are difficult /
>>> impossible and expensive to get.
>>
>> And the tires worthy of the car cost a small fortune.  Nonetheless, it's
>> the most fun I've ever had driving a car even if I botched more than
>> half the shifts.  SIX gears?  In a 3" square area?  My Corolla is a lot
>> of fun on that mountain road, but the S2K was better.
>>
>> I asked the friend to give my car-mad grandson a ride, but only scare
>> him a little. He was happy.
>
> I've been a race driving instructor since 2016. I get a chance to scare
> people "just a little" on a semi-regular basis.

My other grandson scared me in his drag-designed car. Minor
differential problem resulting in tiny skid to the left. Ultimately the
car broke in half. We had told him about the danger in buying 'salvage'
cars previously, but kids know everything.

My S2000 friend scared me the first time, but I've ridden with her long
enough to know she's really good, has been driving this way for a long
time (are you familiar with Frogger?) and has no death wish -- so I just
sit back and enjoy the ride that I'm not capable of doing myself. Not
sure that I ever was...

--
Cheers, Bev
"Incontinence hotline, can you hold?"

On 2023-11-17 15:05, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 11/17/23 9:48 AM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-11-16 22:55, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>>> But amazingly, you chose not to buy a RAV4 once it changed...
>>>>>>> ...and there are people here who insist that that choice wasn't
>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>> for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand that.  I am NOTHING if not sensible!
>>>>>
>>>>> If I weren't sensible I'd buy a Honds S2000.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, that would not be sensible because the parts are difficult /
>>>> impossible and expensive to get.
>>>
>>> And the tires worthy of the car cost a small fortune.  Nonetheless,
>>> it's the most fun I've ever had driving a car even if I botched more
>>> than half the shifts.  SIX gears?  In a 3" square area?  My Corolla
>>> is a lot of fun on that mountain road, but the S2K was better.
>>>
>>> I asked the friend to give my car-mad grandson a ride, but only scare
>>> him a little. He was happy.
>>
>> I've been a race driving instructor since 2016. I get a chance to scare
>> people "just a little" on a semi-regular basis.
>
> My other grandson scared me in his drag-designed car.  Minor
> differential problem resulting in tiny skid to the left.  Ultimately the
> car broke in half.  We had told him about the danger in buying 'salvage'
> cars previously, but kids know everything.
>
> My S2000 friend scared me the first time, but I've ridden with her long
> enough to know she's really good, has been driving this way for a long
> time (are you familiar with Frogger?) and has no death wish -- so I just
> sit back and enjoy the ride that I'm not capable of doing myself. Not
> sure that I ever was...
>

Honest advice:

Go out with a professional and learn more about what you and your car
are capable of. It could save your life some day.

On 11/18/23 1:28 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2023-11-17 15:05, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 11/17/23 9:48 AM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-16 22:55, The Real Bev wrote:

>>>> I asked the friend to give my car-mad grandson a ride, but only scare
>>>> him a little. He was happy.
>>>
>>> I've been a race driving instructor since 2016. I get a chance to scare
>>> people "just a little" on a semi-regular basis.
>>
>> My other grandson scared me in his drag-designed car.  Minor
>> differential problem resulting in tiny skid to the left.  Ultimately the
>> car broke in half.  We had told him about the danger in buying 'salvage'
>> cars previously, but kids know everything.
>>
>> My S2000 friend scared me the first time, but I've ridden with her long
>> enough to know she's really good, has been driving this way for a long
>> time (are you familiar with Frogger?) and has no death wish -- so I just
>> sit back and enjoy the ride that I'm not capable of doing myself. Not
>> sure that I ever was...
>>
>
> Honest advice:
>
> Go out with a professional and learn more about what you and your car
> are capable of. It could save your life some day.

She actually DID take the Bondurant (I think) course. I rely on my MC
experience, which is probably insufficient.

--
Cheers, Bev
"I love this country...
...and the freedoms we used to have..."
--George Carlin