So I upgraded to ios 17 and one of the things I looking forward to was the
improvements to the keyboard and typing. It was highlighted in the launch
event.

Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
original meaning drastically . Selecting words is a ducking nightmare, the
cursor rarely ends up where I want it even in "spacebar" mode.

There are weird visual artefacts such as randomly highlighted words (in
dark grey and hard to see in dark mode) and red underlines that don't
respond to anything. I suspect the red underline is spell checker but it
doesn't offer up suggestions. Should it?

One improvement is it no longer offers up nonsense words as options.

Anyone seeing genuine improvements? I normally swipe to type if that makes
a difference.

On Nov 24, 2023 at 6:26:39 AM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> So I upgraded to ios 17 and one of the things I looking forward to was the
> improvements to the keyboard and typing. It was highlighted in the launch
> event.
>
> Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
> Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
> and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
> original meaning drastically . Selecting words is a ducking nightmare, the
> cursor rarely ends up where I want it even in "spacebar" mode.
>
I always turn all of that shit off, for the reasons you list. I want a
keyboard, not a fucking "smart keyboard" that forces me to put quotes around a
word it does not recognize/does not want me to use.

On 24.11.23 12:26, Chris wrote:
> Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
> Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
> and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
> original meaning drastically .

The first thing I turn off when I get a new device and it is plain
censorship and language discrimination. It is not Apple's business how
the general public uses the language. That applies also to the gender
crap they started one or two major OS-versions before.

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Nov 24, 2023 at 6:26:39 AM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> So I upgraded to ios 17 and one of the things I looking forward to was the
>> improvements to the keyboard and typing. It was highlighted in the launch
>> event.
>>
>> Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
>> Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
>> and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
>> original meaning drastically . Selecting words is a ducking nightmare, the
>> cursor rarely ends up where I want it even in "spacebar" mode.
>>
> I always turn all of that shit off, for the reasons you list. I want a
> keyboard, not a fucking "smart keyboard" that forces me to put quotes around a
> word it does not recognize/does not want me to use.

What exactly do you turn off? I can't see what options affect my issues
above.

Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 24.11.23 12:26, Chris wrote:
>> Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
>> Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
>> and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
>> original meaning drastically .
>
> The first thing I turn off when I get a new device and it is plain
> censorship and language discrimination.

What is it that you switch off which helps with those issues?

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> On 24.11.23 12:26, Chris wrote:
>>> Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
>>> Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
>>> and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
>>> original meaning drastically .
>>
>> The first thing I turn off when I get a new device and it is plain
>> censorship and language discrimination.
>
> What is it that you switch off which helps with those issues?
>
>

Settings -> General -> Keyboard; Turn off “auto correction” and
“predictive”. That may do what you want.

—
Paul Goodman

Am 24.11.23 um 18:11 schrieb Chris:
> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> On 24.11.23 12:26, Chris wrote:
>>> Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
>>> Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
>>> and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
>>> original meaning drastically .
>>
>> The first thing I turn off when I get a new device and it is plain
>> censorship and language discrimination.
>
> What is it that you switch off which helps with those issues?

Auto-Capitalization
Auto-Correction
Predictive

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

Am 24.11.23 um 18:24 schrieb Jörg Lorenz:
> Am 24.11.23 um 18:11 schrieb Chris:
>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> On 24.11.23 12:26, Chris wrote:
>>>> Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
>>>> Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
>>>> and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
>>>> original meaning drastically .
>>>
>>> The first thing I turn off when I get a new device and it is plain
>>> censorship and language discrimination.
>>
>> What is it that you switch off which helps with those issues?
>
> Auto-Capitalization
> Auto-Correction
> Predictive

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207525

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

On Nov 24, 2023 at 12:06:32 PM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>> On Nov 24, 2023 at 6:26:39 AM EST, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I upgraded to ios 17 and one of the things I looking forward to was the
>>> improvements to the keyboard and typing. It was highlighted in the launch
>>> event.
>>>
>>> Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
>>> Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
>>> and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
>>> original meaning drastically . Selecting words is a ducking nightmare, the
>>> cursor rarely ends up where I want it even in "spacebar" mode.
>>>
>> I always turn all of that shit off, for the reasons you list. I want a
>> keyboard, not a fucking "smart keyboard" that forces me to put quotes around a
>> word it does not recognize/does not want me to use.
>
> What exactly do you turn off? I can't see what options affect my issues
> above.

As others have said. The only thing I have on is Enable Caps Lock.

Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 24.11.23 um 18:11 schrieb Chris:
>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> On 24.11.23 12:26, Chris wrote:
>>>> Frankly, I'm underwhelmed. The predictive text is still far too sanitised.
>>>> Even words like murder aren't offered up as options. Swearing is unreliable
>>>> and the correction of two words is too aggressive which changes the
>>>> original meaning drastically .
>>>
>>> The first thing I turn off when I get a new device and it is plain
>>> censorship and language discrimination.
>>
>> What is it that you switch off which helps with those issues?
>
> Auto-Capitalization
> Auto-Correction
> Predictive

I've turned Predictive off - the others already were off - but doesn't seem
to have made much of a difference.