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* Google Groups ending support for Usenetbadgolferman
+- Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetChris
+* Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetJolly Roger
|`* Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet*Hemidactylus*
| `* Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetWally J
|  +* Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetJolly Roger
|  |`- Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetWally J
|  `* Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet*Hemidactylus*
|   +- Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetJolly Roger
|   `* Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetHank Rogers
|    +- Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet*Hemidactylus*
|    `- Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetJolly Roger
`* Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetConnor Shannon
 +- Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetAnt
 `* Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetJörg Lorenz
  `* Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetConnor Shannon
   `* Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetAnt
    `* Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetWally J
     `- Re: Google Groups ending support for UsenetWally J

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 by: badgolferman - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 13:39 UTC

Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to
Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and
search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on
Google Groups.

In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and
associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not
support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other
NNTP servers.

This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups,
including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current
Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.

https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638382442846043087-1580301548&p=usenet&rd=1

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 by: Chris - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 14:52 UTC

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
> groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to
> Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and
> search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on
> Google Groups.

Arlen is *not* going to be happy. He'll have to move his archive to
somewhere else. I know it's not being deleted in Feb, but it may be only a
question of time.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 16:33 UTC

On 2023-12-15, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
> groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to
> Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content.

Good.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 17:30 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2023-12-15, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
>> groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to
>> Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content.
>
> Good.
>
Most definitely so.

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 by: Wally J - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 20:33 UTC

*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

>> Good.
>>
> Most definitely so.

Hi badgolferman,

First off, we are discussing this issue at length in the peering newsgroup:
*Effective February 15, 2024, Google Groups will no longer support new Usenet content*
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/_w1mbwzgzs0>

Which is a followup to this original request for who is peering this spam:
*Who is peering all these spams ostensibly from Google Groups?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/AgrNUeZuAkw>

Which itself was followed up in a request for people to complain to Google:
*Please complain to Google about their spamming of Usenet*
<https://groups.google.com/g/news.admin.peering/c/xxniDVj3ArI>

Secondly, the child-like ignorant uneducated low-IQ iKooks (see above) who
say good riddance to any ability to search Usenet archives for the masses
are the exact same iKooks who are singularly ignorant of almost everything.

They're also rather selfish in that they don't care about anyone else
(where these web searchable articles are available to everyone on earth).

For example, that's why I created these easy-to-use URLs long ago.
<https://tinyurl.com/misc-phone-mobile-iphone>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-system>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-mobile-ipad>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-apps>
<https://tinyurl.com/comp-sys-mac-advocacy>
etc.

Not for me.
But for everyone else to benefit from everything that we do on Usenet.

As I see it, the advantage of a permanent archive is that people can search
before they post and they can search for references they refer to.

Of course, the iKooks would _never_ resort to being adults, so they don't
see any value in being able to refer to their own words in the past, e.g.,
*It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/PZuec56EWB0>
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/PZuec56EWB0>

Please note, very clearly, the disgustingly inhumane iKooks will always
disavow their own words - where many (like Jolly Roger) are so deceitful as
to claim they didn't say what they clearly said (likewise with Alan Baker).

To the duplicitiously deceitful iKooks, they can lie all they want to if
you can't find the articles that show EXACTLY what was proven in the past.

Worse, the sadistically cruel iKooks will play innocent users like a
fiddle, for their own amusement, which is clearly shown in the archives.
*Why are iKooks sadistically sending innocent users on wild-goose chases?*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/ynh0PE9lK_I/>

In summary, there is a loss to the users if people can't search before
posting, and there is a loss if people can't refer to old articles when
backing up their claims - both of which suite the child-like iKooks.

But nobody else.

Luckily, there _are_ other archives, which aren't as good as dejagoogle,
but after February of next year, they're all we have (as far as I know).
<https://misc.phone.mobile.iphone.narkive.com>
<https://comp.sys.mac.system.narkive.com>
<https://comp.mobile.ipad.narkive.com>
<https://comp.sys.mac.apps.narkive.com>
<https://comp.sys.mac.advocacy.narkive.com>
etc.

If there's someone on these newsgroups who knows more than I do, please let
me know if you know of a better archive than the ones I just explained.
--
The problem with the iKooks isn't so much that they're ignorant, selfish,
deceitful or sadistic - but that they're all disgusting people of no worth.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 22:59 UTC

On 2023-12-15, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>
>>> Good.
>>>
>> Most definitely so.
>
> child-like
> ignorant
> uneducated
> low-IQ
> iKooks
> iKooks
> ignorant
> selfish
> iKooks
> disgustingly inhumane iKooks
> deceitful
> deceitful iKooks
> sadistically cruel iKooks
> iKooks sadistically sending innocent users on wild-goose chases
> child-like iKooks

You poor tormented thing! Thoughts and prayers! 🤣

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Fri, 15 Dec 2023 23:03 UTC

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>
>>> Good.
>>>
>> Most definitely so.
>
> Hi badgolferman,
>
First off I’m not badgolferman you dingbat. For someone who thinks so
highly of their alleged acumen you can’t even bother with attribution.
Secondly why did you have the urge to add a bunch of newsgroups except to
masturbate in front of as many people as possible?

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 00:11 UTC

On 2023-12-15, *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
> Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>>
>>>> Good.
>>>>
>>> Most definitely so.
>>
>> Hi badgolferman,
>>
> First off I’m not badgolferman you dingbat. For someone who thinks so
> highly of their alleged acumen you can’t even bother with attribution.
> Secondly why did you have the urge to add a bunch of newsgroups except
> to masturbate in front of as many people as possible?

He's an extremely obsessive public masturbator. Perhaps the biggest one
on all of Usenet.

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 by: Hank Rogers - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 00:14 UTC

*Hemidactylus* wrote:
> Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>>
>>>> Good.
>>>>
>>> Most definitely so.
>>
>> Hi badgolferman,
>>
> First off I’m not badgolferman you dingbat. For someone who thinks so
> highly of their alleged acumen you can’t even bother with attribution.
> Secondly why did you have the urge to add a bunch of newsgroups except to
> masturbate in front of as many people as possible?
>

You are doing that right now man.

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 by: Connor Shannon - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:03 UTC

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 5:39:36 AM UTC-8, badgolferman wrote:
> Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
> groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to
> Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and
> search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on
> Google Groups.
>
> In addition, Google’s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and
> associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not
> support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other
> NNTP servers.
>
> This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups,
> including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current
> Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
>
> https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638382442846043087-1580301548&p=usenet&rd=1

The note on the Google page I'm using to read and post in this group says Feb 15.

Every body here and on the Mac group has been so helpful so maybe I'll look for another way to get to Usenet.

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 by: Ant - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 01:13 UTC

Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 5:39:36???AM UTC-8, badgolferman wrote:
> > Starting on February 22, 2024, you can no longer use Google Groups (at
> > groups.google.com) to post content to Usenet groups, subscribe to
> > Usenet groups, or view new Usenet content. You can continue to view and
> > search for historical Usenet content posted before February 22, 2024 on
> > Google Groups.
> >
> > In addition, Google???s Network News Transfer Protocol (NNTP) server and
> > associated peering will no longer be available, meaning Google will not
> > support serving new Usenet content or exchanging content with other
> > NNTP servers.
> >
> > This change will not impact any non-Usenet content on Google Groups,
> > including all user and organization-created groups. Most of the current
> > Google Groups content is not Usenet content and will not be affected.
> >
> > https://support.google.com/groups/answer/11036538?visit_id=638382442846043087-1580301548&p=usenet&rd=1

> The note on the Google page I'm using to read and post in this group says Feb 15.

> Every body here and on the Mac group has been so helpful so maybe I'll look for another way to get to Usenet.

https://www.eternal-september.org is free.
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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 02:18 UTC

Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>> Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>>> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>>>
>>>>> Good.
>>>>>
>>>> Most definitely so.
>>>
>>> Hi badgolferman,
>>>
>> First off I’m not badgolferman you dingbat. For someone who thinks so
>> highly of their alleged acumen you can’t even bother with attribution.
>> Secondly why did you have the urge to add a bunch of newsgroups except to
>> masturbate in front of as many people as possible?
>>
>
> You are doing that right now man.
>
Note that I cut those other newsgroups. I don’t know what your major
malfunction became nor do I care. Maybe Arlen enabler.

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 05:28 UTC

On 16.12.23 02:03, Connor Shannon wrote:
> The note on the Google page I'm using to read and post in this group says Feb 15.
>
> Every body here and on the Mac group has been so helpful so maybe I'll look for another way to get to Usenet.

You are one of the few on my Whitelist of Google users.

Use Solani or Eternal Spetember with a client like Thunderbird or others:

https://www.solani.org
http://www.eternal-september.org

--
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sat, 16 Dec 2023 17:06 UTC

On 2023-12-16, Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>> Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>>> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>>>
>>>>> Good.
>>>>>
>>>> Most definitely so.
>>>
>>> Hi badgolferman,
>>>
>> First off I’m not badgolferman you dingbat. For someone who thinks so
>> highly of their alleged acumen you can’t even bother with attribution.
>> Secondly why did you have the urge to add a bunch of newsgroups except to
>> masturbate in front of as many people as possible?
>
> You are doing that right now man.

Nope, his reply was posted to one single newsgroup.

--
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Connor Shannon - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 21:00 UTC

On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 9:28:22 PM UTC-8, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> On 16.12.23 02:03, Connor Shannon wrote:
> > The note on the Google page I'm using to read and post in this group says Feb 15.
> >
> > Every body here and on the Mac group has been so helpful so maybe I'll look for another way to get to Usenet.
> You are one of the few on my Whitelist of Google users.
>
> Use Solani or Eternal Spetember with a client like Thunderbird or others:
>
> https://www.solani.org
> http://www.eternal-september.org
>
> --
> "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

Thank you (and Ant) very much I will check that out.

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 by: Ant - Sun, 17 Dec 2023 23:27 UTC

Connor Shannon <cshannon1898@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, December 15, 2023 at 9:28:22???PM UTC-8, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> > On 16.12.23 02:03, Connor Shannon wrote:
> > > The note on the Google page I'm using to read and post in this group says Feb 15.
> > >
> > > Every body here and on the Mac group has been so helpful so maybe I'll look for another way to get to Usenet.
> > You are one of the few on my Whitelist of Google users.
> >
> > Use Solani or Eternal Spetember with a client like Thunderbird or others:
> >
> > https://www.solani.org
> > http://www.eternal-september.org
> >
> > --
> > "Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)

> Thank you (and Ant) very much I will check that out.

You're welcome.
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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 00:22 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

>> child-like
>> ignorant
>> uneducated
>> low-IQ
>> iKooks
>> iKooks
>> ignorant
>> selfish
>> iKooks
>> disgustingly inhumane iKooks
>> deceitful
>> deceitful iKooks
>> sadistically cruel iKooks
>> iKooks sadistically sending innocent users on wild-goose chases
>> child-like iKooks
>
> You poor tormented thing!

Actually, I feel sorry for _you_ Jolly Roger because your entire life
people have been calling you stupid - but here you can pretend you're not.

As such, you interest me. That's why I study you so intensely Jolly Roger.
I read _everything_ you write to these Apple newsgroups, Jolly Roger.

That's why you've noticed (see above quotes) that I know you so well.
I've been able to characterize your entire being, in just a few words.

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 18 Dec 2023 00:28 UTC

Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote

>> Thank you (and Ant) very much I will check that out.
>
> You're welcome.

For Connor Shannon and anyone else who is currently using GG...
There's a newsgroup just for finding & using the free news servers.

<http://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>
<https://alt.free.newsservers.narkive.com>
<https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=alt.free.newsservers>
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 by: Wally J - Thu, 21 Dec 2023 20:54 UTC

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote

> For Connor Shannon and anyone else who is currently using GG...
> There's a newsgroup just for finding & using the free news servers.
>
> <http://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.newsservers>
> <https://alt.free.newsservers.narkive.com>
> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=alt.free.newsservers>
> --
> Hope this helps, as I'm always trying to help people as that's my nature.

To help everyone, there's also this web site for the Apple iPhone group.
<http://www.jlaforums.com/viewforum.php?f=367>
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Hope this helps, as I'm always trying to help people as that's my nature.
Which is why I directly clash with the unprepossessing unhelpful iKooks.

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