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* Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsEnrico Papaloma
+- Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsJolly Roger
+* Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsYour Name
|`* Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsbadgolferman
| +- Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsBlueshirt
| +- Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsJörg Lorenz
| +- Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsYour Name
| `* Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsChris Schram
|  `- Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsPeter
`* Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsOscar Mayer
 `- Re: Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded appsCozy Nest

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From: enrico@papaloma.net (Enrico Papaloma)
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 by: Enrico Papaloma - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 07:16 UTC

Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded apps

As new European tech regulations are set to take effect in the coming
weeks, Apple is preparing for a future where it will be required to allow
users to download apps from sources outside of its App Store. The company
hasn't shared details about how the process, called sideloading, will work,
but it seems it may not allow developers to circumvent the company's fees
and app review rules after all.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the App Store owner "plans to collect
fees from developers that offer downloads outside of the App Store" and
that it will require some kind of review for downloads that don't go
through its storefront. Sideloading would only be offered to iOS users in
the European Union in order to comply with the bloc's Digital Markets Act.

While the report notes Apple's plan hasn't been finalized, the strategy
would be in line with another significant change the company just made to
its US App Store policies. Last week, the company officially changed its
rules for US developers to enable in-app purchases that bypass the App
Store's billing system.

However, the new rules, which came after a lengthy court battle with
Fortnite developer Epic Games, stipulate that developers must still pay a
hefty 27 percent commission on purchases made outside of the App Store
(some smaller developers will only be charged 12 percent). The new rules
also give Apple the right to audit developers' records to ensure
compliance. That's already led to much criticism from Epic, Spotify and
other developers who have long been critical of the App Store's restrictive
rules and fees.

If Apple were to charge developers for sideloading, that could lead to
similar criticism from app makers. The Digital Markets Act is set to go
into effect March 7, and even though Apple has yet to share its plan to
comply with the regulation, companies that have previously butted heads
with Cupertino over its rules are already preparing. Spotify, a longtime
opponent of the App Store's commission, just previewed what the European
version of its app will look like once users can pay for subscriptions and
audiobooks inside of its app.

The Wall Street Journal also reports that Meta, another vocal Apple critic,
is working on its own project that would allow it to distribute developers'
apps via Facebook ads. The effort, reportedly called "Project Neon"
internally, could allow the Facebook owner to compete with the App Store
more directly, at least in Europe.

https://www.engadget.com/apple-reportedly-plans-to-charge-developers-if-they-offer-sideloaded-apps-202345977.html
https://www.wsj.com/tech/apple-plans-new-fees-and-restrictions-for-downloads-outside-app-store-f464f426
https://www.sammobile.com/opinion/charging-people-to-use-galaxy-ai-is-the-dumbest-idea-ever/
https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/24/sideloading-in-europe-app-review-and-fees/

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 16:34 UTC

On 2024-01-25, Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> wrote:
>
> Apple reportedly plans to charge developers if they offer sideloaded
> apps

WOMP WOMP 🤣

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 by: Your Name - Thu, 25 Jan 2024 20:55 UTC

On 2024-01-25 07:16:38 +0000, Enrico Papaloma said:
>
<snip>
>
> The Wall Street Journal also reports that Meta, another vocal Apple critic,
> is working on its own project that would allow it to distribute developers'
> apps via Facebook ads. The effort, reportedly called "Project Neon"
> internally, could allow the Facebook owner to compete with the App Store
> more directly, at least in Europe.

Nobody with more than one braincell should trust installing anything
via Farcebook anyway.

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From: REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com (badgolferman)
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 by: badgolferman - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 13:54 UTC

Your Name wrote:

>Nobody with more than one braincell should trust installing anything
>via Farcebook anyway.

That reminds me, I've never had Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok,
etc. accounts. Usenet is my social media. Are there any others here
like me?

--
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire." ~
Winston Churchill

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 by: Blueshirt - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:03 UTC

badgolferman wrote:

> Your Name wrote:
>
> > Nobody with more than one braincell should trust installing
> > anything via Farcebook anyway.
>
> That reminds me, I've never had Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat,
> TikTok, etc. accounts. Usenet is my social media. Are there any
> others here like me?

Yes!

Usenet is my social media too... I am on some web forums and use
YouTube but definitely no Twitter/Instagram/Facebook/Tik-Tok
(etc.)here.

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 17:34 UTC

Am 26.01.24 um 14:54 schrieb badgolferman:
> Your Name wrote:
>
>> Nobody with more than one braincell should trust installing anything
>> via Farcebook anyway.
>
> That reminds me, I've never had Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok,
> etc. accounts. Usenet is my social media. Are there any others here
> like me?

After some experience on social media: YES (or almost, with the
exception of Mastodon which I open once a month).

--
"Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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 by: Your Name - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 21:18 UTC

On 2024-01-26 13:54:53 +0000, badgolferman said:
> Your Name wrote:
>>
>> Nobody with more than one braincell should trust installing anything
>> via Farcebook anyway.
>
> That reminds me, I've never had Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok,
> etc. accounts. Usenet is my social media. Are there any others here
> like me?

I've never had any of them either: Farcebook, Twithead (now
X-Twithead), DikDok, etc. are all moronic crap used by the brainless
generation.

I don't include Usenet or website forums as "Social Media". The
ridiculous Social Media" sites are the ones that exist solely to
promote yourself and boost your own ego. Although some people may use
Usent and forums for that purpose, but it isn't what they were designed
for.

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 by: Chris Schram - Fri, 26 Jan 2024 22:35 UTC

On 2024-01-26, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
>
>>Nobody with more than one braincell should trust installing anything
>>via Farcebook anyway.
>
> That reminds me, I've never had Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, TikTok,
> etc. accounts. Usenet is my social media. Are there any others here
> like me?

I check Facebook, but not the way Meta wants me to. Instead of human
"friends" I follow a few software developers, Mac news outlets, public
agencies, podcasts.

--
ATTN Google Groups users: I filter out your posts and will rarely see them.
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 by: Peter - Sat, 27 Jan 2024 01:58 UTC

Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
> I check Facebook, but not the way Meta wants me to. Instead of human
> "friends" I follow a few software developers, Mac news outlets, public
> agencies, podcasts.

I use Telegram similarly, where I "Join" the news-related channels.

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 by: Oscar Mayer - Sat, 27 Jan 2024 02:37 UTC

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 08:16:38 +0100, Enrico Papaloma wrote:

> https://www.engadget.com/apple-reportedly-plans-to-charge-developers-if-they-offer-sideloaded-apps-202345977.html
> https://www.wsj.com/tech/apple-plans-new-fees-and-restrictions-for-downloads-outside-app-store-f464f426
> https://www.sammobile.com/opinion/charging-people-to-use-galaxy-ai-is-the-dumbest-idea-ever/
> https://www.macrumors.com/2024/01/24/sideloading-in-europe-app-review-and-fees/

This says it direct.

"The deadline for compliance is March, and all eyes were on how Apple,
which is famous for not playing nicely with others, would react. Now the
company has set out how it will comply with the law, and the result is the
sort of malicious compliance everyone was expecting."

https://www.engadget.com/apples-rivals-arent-happy-about-its-eu-app-store-changes-160032585.html

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