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 by: Hank Rogers - Fri, 16 Feb 2024 21:25 UTC

I have an iphone SE (2020). It has worked OK for several years.

Recently, I was given an ipad 9th generation. It was new, never
used, won by a relative who put it in the closet. It came with
a 20 watt charger.

My iphone won't charge if I plug it into the charger that came
with the ipad.

It would be nice if I could use the 20W charger for both my
apple devices.

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 by: Alan Browne - Fri, 16 Feb 2024 22:39 UTC

On 2024-02-16 16:25, Hank Rogers wrote:
> I have an iphone SE (2020). It has worked OK for several years.
>
> Recently, I was given an ipad 9th generation. It was new, never used,
> won by a relative who put it in the closet. It came with a 20 watt charger.
>
> My iphone won't charge if I plug it into the charger that came with the
> ipad.
>
> It would be nice if I could use the 20W charger for both my apple devices.

Should work.

I assume the charger + cable work with the iPad?

Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again. To get
into the iPhone lightning port, take some stiff paper, fold doubled, cut
to size, a dot of alcohol. In and out a few times. Let dry.

--
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 by: Jimmy - Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:36 UTC

On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.

While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody wants it...

And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my experience
with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that the
batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature dependent.

Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to charge.
Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72 degrees), then all
of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows 99% or
similar.

Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a few older
iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature - if it's
not.

If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on experience
does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting your time.

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 by: Hank Rogers - Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:38 UTC

Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2024-02-16 16:25, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> I have an iphone SE (2020). It has worked OK for several years.
>>
>> Recently, I was given an ipad 9th generation. It was new,
>> never used, won by a relative who put it in the closet. It
>> came with a 20 watt charger.
>>
>> My iphone won't charge if I plug it into the charger that
>> came with the ipad.
>>
>> It would be nice if I could use the 20W charger for both my
>> apple devices.
>
> Should work.
>

That's what I thought.

> I assume the charger + cable work with the iPad?
>

Yes. it's all brand new, as I said. The iphone was bought in
2021. It charges just fine on the low power apple charger that
it came with, just not on the new ipad's charger.

> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
> To get into the iPhone lightning port, take some stiff paper,
> fold doubled, cut to size, a dot of alcohol.  In and out a few
> times.  Let dry.
>

Thanks, I'll clean it and try again, but the port appears
pristine when examined with a 10x loupe. Thanks for your help.

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 by: Alan Browne - Fri, 16 Feb 2024 23:44 UTC

On 2024-02-16 18:36, Jimmy wrote:
> On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
>> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
>
> While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody wants it...
> And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my experience
> with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that the
> batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature dependent.
>
> Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to charge.
> Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72 degrees), then all
> of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows 99% or
> similar.
>
> Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a few older
> iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature - if it's
> not.
>
> If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on experience
> does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting your time.

Re-read his post. Like the part about it being his iPhone that won't
charge with the iPad's charger, for example.

--
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 by: Hank Rogers - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 00:02 UTC

Hank Rogers wrote:
> Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2024-02-16 16:25, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>> I have an iphone SE (2020). It has worked OK for several years.
>>>
>>> Recently, I was given an ipad 9th generation. It was new,
>>> never used, won by a relative who put it in the closet. It
>>> came with a 20 watt charger.
>>>
>>> My iphone won't charge if I plug it into the charger that
>>> came with the ipad.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if I could use the 20W charger for both my
>>> apple devices.
>>
>> Should work.
>>
>
> That's what I thought.
>
>> I assume the charger + cable work with the iPad?
>>
>
> Yes. it's all brand new, as I said. The iphone was bought in
> 2021. It charges just fine on the low power apple charger that
> it came with, just not on the new ipad's charger.
>
>> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
>> To get into the iPhone lightning port, take some stiff paper,
>> fold doubled, cut to size, a dot of alcohol.  In and out a
>> few times.  Let dry.
>>
>
> Thanks, I'll clean it and try again, but the port appears
> pristine when examined with a 10x loupe. Thanks for your help.
>

One thing I need to clarify ... the iphone SE 2020 didn't come
with a charger, but the charger I've been using is a genuine
apple small charger my wife gave me. She buys lots of apple
stuff and had this one from some iphone she bought, before
apple cheeped out and quit supplying a charger with new phones.
It works fine, and has been 100% reliable forn several years.
It even charges this new ipad, but slower naturally.

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 by: Hank Rogers - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 00:04 UTC

Jimmy wrote:
> On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
>> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
>
> While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
> wants it...
> And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
> experience
> with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
> the
> batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
> dependent.
>
> Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
> charge.
> Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
> degrees), then all
> of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
> 99% or
> similar.
>
> Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
> few older
> iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
> if it's
> not.
>
> If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
> experience
> does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
> your time.

No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.

I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.

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On 2024-02-16 23:36:05 +0000, Jimmy said:
>
> Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to charge.

If the battery is "full" on pretty much any device it will "refuse" to
charge ... since you cannot charge higher then "full". In fact most
modern devices "refuse" to charge when full (or in some newer cases a
certain high percentage) so they don't damage the battery, battery
circuitry, or the charger. :-)

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 by: Hank Rogers - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 00:23 UTC

Your Name wrote:
> On 2024-02-16 23:36:05 +0000, Jimmy said:
>>
>> Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
>> charge.
>
> If the battery is "full" on pretty much any device it will
> "refuse" to charge ... since you cannot charge higher then
> "full". In fact most modern devices "refuse" to charge when
> full (or in some newer cases a certain high percentage) so they
> don't damage the battery, battery circuitry, or the charger.  :-)
>

Thanks. That is obvious.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 03:48 UTC

Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Jimmy wrote:
>> On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
>>
>> While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
>> wants it...
>> And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
>> experience
>> with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
>> the
>> batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
>> dependent.
>>
>> Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
>> charge.
>> Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
>> degrees), then all
>> of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
>> 99% or
>> similar.
>>
>> Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
>> few older
>> iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
>> if it's
>> not.
>>
>> If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
>> experience
>> does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
>> your time.
>
> No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.
>
Everyone? You seem ironically full of shit.
>
> I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.
>
Are you also Arlen? There is a lot of Arlen on this group. The stench is
overwhelming. hank@nospam.invalid seals it IMO. Hi Arlen.

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 by: Hank Rogers - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 03:55 UTC

*Hemidactylus* wrote:
> Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Jimmy wrote:
>>> On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
>>>
>>> While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
>>> wants it...
>>> And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
>>> experience
>>> with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
>>> the
>>> batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
>>> dependent.
>>>
>>> Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
>>> charge.
>>> Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
>>> degrees), then all
>>> of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
>>> 99% or
>>> similar.
>>>
>>> Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
>>> few older
>>> iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
>>> if it's
>>> not.
>>>
>>> If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
>>> experience
>>> does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
>>> your time.
>>
>> No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.
>>
> Everyone? You seem ironically full of shit.
>>
>> I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.
>>
> Are you also Arlen? There is a lot of Arlen on this group. The stench is
> overwhelming. hank@nospam.invalid seals it IMO. Hi Arlen.
>

Try some preparation H.

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 04:07 UTC

Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>> Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Jimmy wrote:
>>>> On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
>>>>
>>>> While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
>>>> wants it...
>>>> And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
>>>> experience
>>>> with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
>>>> the
>>>> batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
>>>> dependent.
>>>>
>>>> Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
>>>> charge.
>>>> Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
>>>> degrees), then all
>>>> of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
>>>> 99% or
>>>> similar.
>>>>
>>>> Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
>>>> few older
>>>> iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
>>>> if it's
>>>> not.
>>>>
>>>> If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
>>>> experience
>>>> does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
>>>> your time.
>>>
>>> No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.
>>>
>> Everyone? You seem ironically full of shit.
>>>
>>> I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.
>>>
>> Are you also Arlen? There is a lot of Arlen on this group. The stench is
>> overwhelming. hank@nospam.invalid seals it IMO. Hi Arlen.
>>
>
> Try some preparation H.
>
Preparation Hank?

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 04:13 UTC

Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>> Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Jimmy wrote:
>>>> On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
>>>>
>>>> While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
>>>> wants it...
>>>> And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
>>>> experience
>>>> with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
>>>> the
>>>> batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
>>>> dependent.
>>>>
>>>> Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
>>>> charge.
>>>> Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
>>>> degrees), then all
>>>> of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
>>>> 99% or
>>>> similar.
>>>>
>>>> Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
>>>> few older
>>>> iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
>>>> if it's
>>>> not.
>>>>
>>>> If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
>>>> experience
>>>> does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
>>>> your time.
>>>
>>> No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.
>>>
>> Everyone? You seem ironically full of shit.
>>>
>>> I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.
>>>
>> Are you also Arlen? There is a lot of Arlen on this group. The stench is
>> overwhelming. hank@nospam.invalid seals it IMO. Hi Arlen.
>>
>
> Try some preparation H.
>
Preparation Hank?

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 by: Hank Rogers - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 04:43 UTC

*Hemidactylus* wrote:
> Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> *Hemidactylus* wrote:
>>> Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Jimmy wrote:
>>>>> On 16/02/2024 17:39, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>>>> Clean all the contacts (paper towel + alcohol) and try again.
>>>>>
>>>>> While nospam would tell you charging is not needed & nobody
>>>>> wants it...
>>>>> And while there's nothing wrong with cleaning the contacts, my
>>>>> experience
>>>>> with plenty of old Android phones and iPads is not so much that
>>>>> the
>>>>> batteries go bad but that the iPad is hugely temperature
>>>>> dependent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if the battery is full on older iPads, it will refuse to
>>>>> charge.
>>>>> Yet, if you heat it up to a decent room temperature (72
>>>>> degrees), then all
>>>>> of a sudden, what showed 0% charged capacity instantly shows
>>>>> 99% or
>>>>> similar.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hence, my advice, based on anecdotal evidence with more than a
>>>>> few older
>>>>> iPads, is make sure the iPad is warmed up to room temperature -
>>>>> if it's
>>>>> not.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the old iPad was already warm - then this advice based on
>>>>> experience
>>>>> does not apply to your situation, and I apologize for wasting
>>>>> your time.
>>>>
>>>> No problem jimmy. Everyone knows nospam was full of shit.
>>>>
>>> Everyone? You seem ironically full of shit.
>>>>
>>>> I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.
>>>>
>>> Are you also Arlen? There is a lot of Arlen on this group. The stench is
>>> overwhelming. hank@nospam.invalid seals it IMO. Hi Arlen.
>>>
>>
>> Try some preparation H.
>>
> Preparation Hank?
>

Maybe it will help your sore butt.

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 by: Jimmy - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 12:32 UTC

On 16/02/2024 17:04, Hank Rogers wrote:
> I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.

I apologize. My goof. I looked back and you were asking about the iPhone
and not the iPad charging. You were trying to charge the iPhone, not iPad.

At least I got the part right that anything Apple that doesn't work the way
you want it to work is, in the words of nospam, forever indelibly always
"not needed" & "not wanted."

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 by: Hank Rogers - Sat, 17 Feb 2024 18:47 UTC

Jimmy <jameslaroche@ptd.net> wrote:
> On 16/02/2024 17:04, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> I think you misunderstood, but I appreciate your help.
>
> I apologize. My goof. I looked back and you were asking about the iPhone
> and not the iPad charging. You were trying to charge the iPhone, not iPad.
>
> At least I got the part right that anything Apple that doesn't work the way
> you want it to work is, in the words of nospam, forever indelibly always
> "not needed" & "not wanted."
>

Nospam was truly the most dedicated apple apologist I’ve ever run across.

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