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* answering to spammers with spam trap mail addressMarco Moock
+* Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail addressScott Dorsey
|`* Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail addressMarco Moock
| `- Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail addressScott Dorsey
`- Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail addressAndreas Kohlbach

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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Subject: answering to spammers with spam trap mail address
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:07:17 +0100
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 by: Marco Moock - Tue, 12 Mar 2024 11:07 UTC

Hello!

Some spammers (especially those who want to scam people) want answers
from the recipient.
Do they answer back and check the From address?

If not, has anybody here tried to send messages with a spam trap in
From?

--
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to 1710240734muell@cartoonies.org

Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail address

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From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Subject: Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail address
Date: 12 Mar 2024 12:11:14 -0000
Organization: Former users of Netcom shell (1989-2000)
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 by: Scott Dorsey - Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:11 UTC

Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>Hello!
>
>Some spammers (especially those who want to scam people) want answers
>from the recipient.
>Do they answer back and check the From address?

Some do, but many include a tracking url in the message. When your browser
displays the 1-pixel-sized image, they know that you have read the message
and that your email address is good. When you click on the bait url, they
then have contact with you.

>If not, has anybody here tried to send messages with a spam trap in
>From?

Oh yes, many people.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Subject: Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail address
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 by: Marco Moock - Tue, 12 Mar 2024 13:48 UTC

On 12.03.2024 um 12:11 Uhr Scott Dorsey wrote:

> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> >If not, has anybody here tried to send messages with a spam trap in
> >From?
>
> Oh yes, many people.

What was the outcome of that?

--
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to 1710241874muell@cartoonies.org

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From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Subject: Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail address
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 by: Scott Dorsey - Tue, 12 Mar 2024 22:40 UTC

Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>On 12.03.2024 um 12:11 Uhr Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
>> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>
>> >If not, has anybody here tried to send messages with a spam trap in
>> >From?
>>
>> Oh yes, many people.
>
>What was the outcome of that?

Spam.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail address

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From: ank@spamfence.net (Andreas Kohlbach)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.email
Subject: Re: answering to spammers with spam trap mail address
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 by: Andreas Kohlbach - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 01:43 UTC

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 12:07:17 +0100, Marco Moock wrote:
>
> Some spammers (especially those who want to scam people) want answers
> from the recipient.
> Do they answer back and check the From address?

They do. But have a closer look. Nigerian scammers alternate between
having one or more addresses scattered all over the mail. First check the
mail body, then the Reply-To:. If these don't exist, the From: is valid.

Decades ago I was teasing Nigerian scammers in email conversations for a
while. Once they realized they exploded. I collected the replies in a
"trophy" room. Might have that online somewhere but forgot where. Cannot
find any local copies though.

I might not read usenet for a coupe of months starting today. If you want
a reply from me, please email. I'll check about all 48 to 72 hours.
--
Andreas

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