[ Dropped comp.lang.c , added news.software.readers ]

On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 21:28:11 -0000 (UTC)
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> In comp.misc candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
> > On 9/9/23 03:57, Sn!pe wrote:
> >> This is not to say that T'Bird is no good as a Newsreader, but there are
> >> better ones.
> >
> > It's hard to find one for Linux that I can find in the aur and also has
> > offline reading mode. Pan doesn't have any option to download all unread
> > messages from what I know.
>
> From the Linux perspective, that is out of scope for a newsreader.
> Offline read/write mode is done with, as one option,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leafnode. Then you still use whatever
> newsreader you like, but can do so offline as well.

I think it is perfectly reasonable for a newsreader to have both a
"batch mode" and an interactive mode. For example one might want to go for
a trip and still set their newsreader to download all new messages in their
favorite groups once per day.

slrn claims to offer such capabilities but I don't use it so I can't speak
about details. It also seems to be easy to compile from source (very few
dependencies) which is a plus in my book because one can make modifications.
But slrn also supports an extension language called S-lang so I'm
guessing you can customise it a lot. Details are under http://slrn.info/ .

It should also be easy to write a Python script or Perl script to download
all new messages from some groups. But one must still use a newsreader which
supports the functionality to read messages from the local filesystem as
opposed to connect to a server and also the messages must be saved in a
format the newsreader can understand.

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Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

> [ Dropped comp.lang.c , added news.software.readers ]
>
> On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 21:28:11 -0000 (UTC)
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> In comp.misc candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
>> > On 9/9/23 03:57, Sn!pe wrote:
>> >> This is not to say that T'Bird is no good as a Newsreader, but there are
>> >> better ones.
>> >
>> > It's hard to find one for Linux that I can find in the aur and also has
>> > offline reading mode. Pan doesn't have any option to download all unread
>> > messages from what I know.
>>
>> From the Linux perspective, that is out of scope for a newsreader.
>> Offline read/write mode is done with, as one option,
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leafnode. Then you still use whatever
>> newsreader you like, but can do so offline as well.
>
> I think it is perfectly reasonable for a newsreader to have both a
> "batch mode" and an interactive mode. For example one might want to go for
> a trip and still set their newsreader to download all new messages in their
> favorite groups once per day.
>
> slrn claims to offer such capabilities but I don't use it so I can't speak
> about details. It also seems to be easy to compile from source (very few
> dependencies) which is a plus in my book because one can make modifications.
> But slrn also supports an extension language called S-lang so I'm
> guessing you can customise it a lot. Details are under http://slrn.info/ .
>
> It should also be easy to write a Python script or Perl script to download
> all new messages from some groups. But one must still use a newsreader which
> supports the functionality to read messages from the local filesystem as
> opposed to connect to a server and also the messages must be saved in a
> format the newsreader can understand.

pan and sylpheed grant offline reading from what i recall. slrn has got
slrnpull, which is great for offline reading/posting (used it with gnus
in place of its native agent in the ol' days). leafnode2 is a good
alternative, not overshooting, as it's light and maintenance free once
porperly set up. i've heard of noffle, never tried tho

On 9/10/23 03:24, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:

> slrn claims to offer such capabilities but I don't use it so I can't speak
> about details. It also seems to be easy to compile from source (very few
> dependencies) which is a plus in my book because one can make modifications.
> But slrn also supports an extension language called S-lang so I'm
> guessing you can customise it a lot. Details are under http://slrn.info/ .

slrn errors when I tried to install it.
bytecode stream in file ‘/usr/lib/uudeview/fptools.o’ generated with LTO
version 12.0 instead of the expected 13.0

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On 2023-09-10, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
> On 9/10/23 03:24, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>
>> slrn claims to offer such capabilities but I don't use it so I can't speak
>> about details. It also seems to be easy to compile from source (very few
>> dependencies) which is a plus in my book because one can make modifications.
>> But slrn also supports an extension language called S-lang so I'm
>> guessing you can customise it a lot. Details are under http://slrn.info/ .
>
> slrn errors when I tried to install it.
> bytecode stream in file ‘/usr/lib/uudeview/fptools.o’ generated with LTO
> version 12.0 instead of the expected 13.0

I downloaded the source and compiled it myself. For Termux (Linux under
Android; minor edits required but if it works there...)

GitHub - jedsoft/slrn: A multi-platform Usenet client
https://github.com/jedsoft/slrn

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On 2023-09-10, candycanearter07 wrote:
> On 9/10/23 03:24, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
>
>> slrn claims to offer such capabilities but I don't use it so I can't
>> speak about details [...]
> slrn errors when I tried to install it.
> bytecode stream in file ‘/usr/lib/uudeview/fptools.o’ generated with LTO
> version 12.0 instead of the expected 13.0

Are you using the version in your distro's repository, or getting it
elsewhere?

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issdr <p_u_n_k_i_n_d@yahoo.it> writes:

[...]

> pan and sylpheed grant offline reading from what i recall. slrn has got
> slrnpull, which is great for offline reading/posting (used it with gnus
> in place of its native agent in the ol' days). leafnode2 is a good
> alternative, not overshooting, as it's light and maintenance free once
> porperly set up. i've heard of noffle, never tried tho

I tried noffle. Noffle is as great as leafnode, but I moved away from
noffle because messages were stored in a GDBM while leafnode stores them
on a directory.