On 2023-10-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-09-30 19:11, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2023-10-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-30 18:56, RabidPedagog wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am very reluctant to believe that Apple actually cared that
>>>> people had already purchased Lightning accessories, and didn't want
>>>> to force them to buy new ones. This is a company whose business
>>>> depends on people buying the same phone they already have but with
>>>> a higher number every year. The "theory" that they wanted to hold
>>>> onto very lucrative accessory market makes the most sense.
>>>
>>> But it simply ISN'T "very lucrative" for Apple.
>>>
>>> Take a look:
>>>
>>> <https://s2.q4cdn.com/470004039/files/doc_financials/2022/q4/_10-K-2022-(As-Filed).pdf>
>>>
>>> Page 21.
>>>
>>> "Wearables, Home and Accessories" taken TOGETHER totaled 20% of
>>> iPhone sales in 2022...
>>>
>>> ...and that category includes:
>>>
>>> 'AirPods, Apple TV, Apple Watch, Beats products, HomePod mini and
>>> accessories.'
>>>
>>> Do you really think that the Lightning accessories are any
>>> significant fraction of that?
>>
>> It's an insignificant percentage. Just look at AirPods revenue alone:
>>
>> <https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/n5m2xp/oc_airpods_revenue_vs_top_tech_companies/>
>
> Wow!
>
> I mean I knew that AirPods would be a bit part of the category, but
> damn.

Really puts into perspective how massively successful Apple is, and
explains why the resident trolls here have such seething hate for Apple
that they literally spend hours and hours every single day trolling the
Apple newsgroups. The jealously is rampant in them. Apple very clearly
haunts their tortured souls. 🤣

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Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> Apple has not yet made an official
> statement about this issue.

Actually, Apple blamed everyone and everything under the sun.

... Which means...

Apple didn't test it.

... Again...

Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote

> it integrates beautifully with the
> rest of my Apple products (Macs, iPad and Watch) in ways other "system"
> vendors can only dream of.

I realize Alan Browne has no clue that the "integration" he speaks about is
only possible *because* he's logged into Apple mothership servers 24/7/365.

When people on the "other system vendors" stoop to that level of intrusion,
they too enjoy all that "integration" which Alan Browne has no clue about.

For example, the open source PulseSMS software puts iMessage to shame.
<https://pulsesms.app/>
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It's no longer shocking that ignorant people like Alan Browne have no idea
that all that "integration" is not due to Apple - but to the mothership
servers (which all can do on any platform if they want to stoop that low).

On 2023-10-01 12:52, Wally J wrote:
> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote
>
>> it integrates beautifully with the
>> rest of my Apple products (Macs, iPad and Watch) in ways other "system"
>> vendors can only dream of.
>
> I realize Alan Browne has...

....your clown act completely figure out?

:-)

On 2023-10-01 13:34:26 +0000, RabidPedagog said:
> On 2023-10-01 9:20 a.m., Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2023-10-01 00:56, Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>> Unfortunately most people only see the sticker price and have no clue
>>> about the actual tech inside, so you get the silly myth that Mac
>>> computers are more expensive then Windows. As the old saying goes: "You
>>> get what you pay for."
>>
>> OTOH, specing a Mac these days with more memory or SSD is horrifically
>> more expensive than specing a PC and then adding the memory and SSD to
>> taste.
>
> It's actually quite laughable how expensive doubling the storage and
> RAM from its default configuration on a Mac is. For the price they
> charge to double from 256GB to 512GB, here in Canada at least and using
> CanadaComputers.com as a reference, you can buy a 2TB NVMe with
> excellent performance. For what Apple demands to double the RAM, you
> can get get 64GB (2x32) or more. I imagine that Apple's tech is a
> little faster, but it's still shocking.

That is one of the few bad points for Mac computers these days - the
sheer lack of upgradability and the cost of build-to-order RAM and
drive upgrades, for which Johnny Ive is largely to blame due to his
idiotic insistence on fully sealed and ever thinner boxes. It has been
made worse by the fact that Apple Silicon includes the RAM on the chip
(which is why the recent "Mac Pro" is a rather pointless since there's
very little you actually can do inside the box (the only one that is
easily opened). :-(

On 9/30/23 23:56, Your Name wrote:
> Steam a GOG use what is basically their own proprietary wrapper to make
> old Windows (and even old Amiga, etc.) games run on the Mac and newer
> Windows versions. The fact that some of their games don't have Mac
> compatibility is largely down to them.

Do you mean Proton?
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On 10/1/23 08:29, RabidPedagog wrote:
> PC, with a huge game and movie library (through the Windows Store). If
Why are you using the Windows Store?
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On 2023-10-01 21:56:17 +0000, candycanearter07 said:
> On 9/30/23 23:56, Your Name wrote:
>>
>> Steam a GOG use what is basically their own proprietary wrapper to make
>> old Windows (and even old Amiga, etc.) games run on the Mac and newer
>> Windows versions. The fact that some of their games don't have Mac
>> compatibility is largely down to them.
>
> Do you mean Proton?

I don't know what each of them specifically use, but it is basically
similar to WINE where the Windows app is inside a wrapper so the app
can be run on MacOS computer without the need to have full Windows
installed. Many of their games have never had specific Mac versions
made.

Some of their games will have requirements that mean the wrapper cannot
make them work on MacOS, which is why they do not offer a "Mac"
version. Other games not have a "Mac" version are simply their choice
(or the developer's choice) to not offer it or not having gotten around
to it yet.

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> Really puts into perspective how massively successful Apple is, and
> explains why the resident trolls here have such seething hate for Apple
> that they literally spend hours and hours every single day trolling the
> Apple newsgroups. The jealously is rampant in them. Apple very clearly
> haunts their tortured souls.

The people who tell the truth about Apple don't hate Apple, Jolly Roger.
*It's you who hates the truth about Apple.*

However, to your point, there are few companies more despicable than Apple.
*Maybe Big Pharma comes close.*
Big Tobacco too.

They're all "massively successful" in the exact same way that Apple is.

On Oct 1, 2023, Wally J wrote
(in article <ufdn57$3uuq1$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
> > Really puts into perspective how massively successful Apple is, and
> > explains why the resident trolls here have such seething hate for Apple
> > that they literally spend hours and hours every single day trolling the
> > Apple newsgroups. The jealously is rampant in them. Apple very clearly
> > haunts their tortured souls.
>
> The people who tell the truth about Apple don't hate Apple, Jolly Roger.
> *It's you who hates the truth about Apple.*
>
> However, to your point, there are few companies more despicable than Apple.
> *Maybe Big Pharma comes close.*
> Big Tobacco too.
>
> They're all "massively successful" in the exact same way that Apple is.

"Apple is more despicable than Big Tobacco" is one hell of a take

On 2023-10-01 23:41, Dorper wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2023, Wally J wrote
> (in article <ufdn57$3uuq1$1@paganini.bofh.team>):
>
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>> Really puts into perspective how massively successful Apple is, and
>>> explains why the resident trolls here have such seething hate for Apple
>>> that they literally spend hours and hours every single day trolling the
>>> Apple newsgroups. The jealously is rampant in them. Apple very clearly
>>> haunts their tortured souls.
>>
>> The people who tell the truth about Apple don't hate Apple, Jolly Roger.
>> *It's you who hates the truth about Apple.*
>>
>> However, to your point, there are few companies more despicable than Apple.
>> *Maybe Big Pharma comes close.*
>> Big Tobacco too.
>>
>> They're all "massively successful" in the exact same way that Apple is.
>
> "Apple is more despicable than Big Tobacco" is one hell of a take
>

Kind of says more about the Clown than it does about Apple...

....doesn't it?

:-)

On 2023-10-02 02:41, Dorper wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2023, Wally J wrote
> (in article <ufdn57$3uuq1$1@paganini.bofh.team>):
>
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>> Really puts into perspective how massively successful Apple is, and
>>> explains why the resident trolls here have such seething hate for Apple
>>> that they literally spend hours and hours every single day trolling the
>>> Apple newsgroups. The jealously is rampant in them. Apple very clearly
>>> haunts their tortured souls.
>>
>> The people who tell the truth about Apple don't hate Apple, Jolly Roger.
>> *It's you who hates the truth about Apple.*
>>
>> However, to your point, there are few companies more despicable than Apple.
>> *Maybe Big Pharma comes close.*
>> Big Tobacco too.
>>
>> They're all "massively successful" in the exact same way that Apple is.
>
> "Apple is more despicable than Big Tobacco" is one hell of a take

The tighter he's painted into a corner, the more desperate and
outrageous his taunts. Something like a former reality show host.

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On 2023-10-02, Dorper <usenet@dorper.me> wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2023, Wally J wrote
> (in article <ufdn57$3uuq1$1@paganini.bofh.team>):
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>> > Really puts into perspective how massively successful Apple is, and
>> > explains why the resident trolls here have such seething hate for
>> > Apple that they literally spend hours and hours every single day
>> > trolling the Apple newsgroups. The jealously is rampant in them.
>> > Apple very clearly haunts their tortured souls.
>>
>> The people who tell the truth about Apple don't hate Apple, Jolly
>> Roger. *It's you who hates the truth about Apple.*
>>
>> However, to your point, there are few companies more despicable than
>> Apple. *Maybe Big Pharma comes close.* Big Tobacco too.
>>
>> They're all "massively successful" in the exact same way that Apple
>> is.
>
> "Apple is more despicable than Big Tobacco" is one hell of a take

It really gives you an insight into their completely warped realities,
doesn't it? They are truly disturbed. If it wasn't so willful, I'd feel
sorry for them.

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