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* charsetCarlos Navarro
+* charsetAndrew Leary
|`* Re: charsetAlejandro Filimonchuk
| +- charsetCarlos Navarro
| `- Re: charsetg00r00
`* Re: charsetJay Harris
 `* charsetCarlos Navarro
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From: nospam.Carlos.Navarro@p1.f234.n341.z2.fidonet.org (Carlos Navarro)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: charset
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 15:03:36 +1300
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 by: Carlos Navarro - Tue, 18 Apr 2023 02:03 UTC

Is there a way to make Mystic insert the CHRS kludge?

Carlos

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From: nospam.Andrew.Leary@f219.n320.z1.fidonet.org (Andrew Leary)
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Subject: charset
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:35:35 +1300
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 by: Andrew Leary - Tue, 18 Apr 2023 22:35 UTC

Hello Carlos!

18 Apr 23 15:03, you wrote to all:

CN> Is there a way to make Mystic insert the CHRS kludge?

Ask goor00 to add it in the next version?

Andrew

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From: nospam.Jay.Harris@f664.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Jay Harris)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: Re: charset
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 15:02:58 +1300
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 by: Jay Harris - Wed, 19 Apr 2023 02:02 UTC

It looks like the mystic editor won't add in the CHRS kludge, but you can
include it if you're using mutil to post your message, like this one has.

Jay

.... I like chicken, I like liver

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From: nospam.Alejandro.Filimonchuk@f102.n900.z4.fidonet.org (Alejandro Filimonchuk)
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Subject: Re: charset
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2023 10:34:53 +1300
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 by: Alejandro Filimonchu - Thu, 20 Apr 2023 21:34 UTC

Hi!
AL> Hello Carlos!
AL>
AL> 18 Apr 23 15:03, you wrote to all:
AL>
AL> CN> Is there a way to make Mystic insert the CHRS kludge?
AL>
AL> Ask goor00 to add it in the next version?

Yeah, I will add up my vote. Please, Lord g00r00, we need a CHRS kludge!
Fidonet Z4 really need it!! :D (and, of course, spanish Z2)

.... "3 things make a movie great: Horses, cowboys, and horses." - Potter

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From: nospam.Carlos.Navarro@p1.f234.n341.z2.fidonet.org (Carlos Navarro)
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Subject: charset
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:52:59 +1300
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 by: Carlos Navarro - Fri, 21 Apr 2023 22:52 UTC

21 Apr 2023 10:34, Alejandro Filimonchuk wrote to Andrew Leary:

CN>>> Is there a way to make Mystic insert the CHRS kludge?

AL>> Ask goor00 to add it in the next version?

AF> Yeah, I will add up my vote. Please, Lord g00r00, we need a CHRS
AF> kludge! Fidonet Z4 really need it!! :D (and, of course, spanish Z2)

If a message posted on a Mystic BBS contains non-ASCII characters (e.g.
accented vocals, �����, or the n with tilde, �), message readers may not know
how to decode it, as there is no CHRS kludge.

Some editors that support multiple charsets may assume CP437 if no CHRS is
present (I have it configured that way in my GoldED). But it would be nice if
Mystic supported this kludge, like most modern FTN software. See FTS-5003 for
info about this standard.

Carlos

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From: nospam.Carlos.Navarro@p1.f234.n341.z2.fidonet.org (Carlos Navarro)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: charset
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 12:08:07 +1300
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 by: Carlos Navarro - Fri, 21 Apr 2023 23:08 UTC

19 Apr 2023 15:02, you wrote to me:

JH> It looks like the mystic editor won't add in the CHRS kludge, but you
JH> can include it if you're using mutil to post your message, like this
JH> one has.

I assume (I don't know Mystic) that's a tool you can use to post text files to
a messagebase. So, did you manually insert the kludges (CHRS, REPLY and the
funny one) in the file?

Carlos

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From: nospam.Jay.Harris@f664.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Jay Harris)
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Subject: Re: charset
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 by: Jay Harris - Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:57 UTC

On 22 Apr 2023, Carlos Navarro said the following...
CN> I assume (I don't know Mystic) that's a tool you can use to post text
CN> files to a messagebase. So, did you manually insert the kludges (CHRS,
CN> REPLY and the funny one) in the file?

Yes, mutil can post text files which is what I did there. And also correct, I
just manually added in the kludge lines at the top of the text file:

echo -e "\01CHRS: CP437 2" > message.txt

Jay

.... I've got butterflies in my stomach, I need to quit eating caterpillars

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From: nospam.g00r00@f215.n129.z1.fidonet.org (g00r00)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: Re: charset
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023 14:58:28 +1300
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 by: g00r00 - Sun, 30 Apr 2023 01:58 UTC

AF> Yeah, I will add up my vote. Please, Lord g00r00, we need a CHRS kludge!
AF> Fidonet Z4 really need it!! :D (and, of course, spanish Z2)

It is on the list to do. The issue right now is that Mystic only knows "ASCII"
and "UTF-8" so I need to add a prompt/field to allow the user to set their
ASCII codepage before I can add in the CHRS properly.

My goal is to release A49 once we go some period of time without issues so that
I can make larger changes for A50 which this would be a part of.

.... Confucius say: "Man who runs behind car gets exhausted"

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