"LibreOffice is a powerful and free office suite, a successor to
OpenOffice(.org), used by millions of people around the world. Its clean
interface and feature-rich tools help you unleash your creativity and
enhance your productivity. LibreOffice includes several applications
that make it the most versatile Free and Open Source office suite on the
market: Writer (word processing), Calc (spreadsheets), Impress
(presentations), Draw (vector graphics and flowcharts), Base
(databases), and Math (formula editing)."

Home Page
https://www.libreoffice.org/

Release Announcement
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/11/23/libreoffice-763-and-android-viewer-app/

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 04:04:02 -0600, AllanH <nospam@unokix.invalid>
wrote:

>"LibreOffice is a powerful and free office suite, a successor to
>OpenOffice(.org), used by millions of people around the world. Its clean
>interface and feature-rich tools help you unleash your creativity and
>enhance your productivity. LibreOffice includes several applications
>that make it the most versatile Free and Open Source office suite on the
>market: Writer (word processing), Calc (spreadsheets), Impress
>(presentations), Draw (vector graphics and flowcharts), Base
>(databases), and Math (formula editing)."
>
>Home Page
>https://www.libreoffice.org/
>
>Release Announcement
>https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/11/23/libreoffice-763-and-android-viewer-app/

I see they insist on the inexplicable privacy issue I posted
about.
The new default is to send EVERYTHING you type to data
brokers....
Someone is going to make a LOT of money with that.
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On 11/24/23 4:36 PM, Shadow wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 04:04:02 -0600, AllanH <nospam@unokix.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> "LibreOffice is a powerful and free office suite, a successor to
>> OpenOffice(.org), used by millions of people around the world. Its clean
>> interface and feature-rich tools help you unleash your creativity and
>> enhance your productivity. LibreOffice includes several applications
>> that make it the most versatile Free and Open Source office suite on the
>> market: Writer (word processing), Calc (spreadsheets), Impress
>> (presentations), Draw (vector graphics and flowcharts), Base
>> (databases), and Math (formula editing)."
>>
>> Home Page
>> https://www.libreoffice.org/
>>
>> Release Announcement
>> https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/11/23/libreoffice-763-and-android-viewer-app/
> I see they insist on the inexplicable privacy issue I posted
> about.
> The new default is to send EVERYTHING you type to data
> brokers....
> Someone is going to make a LOT of money with that.
> []'s
> --
> I am not seeing any leakige in my logs (LM20.3), but I am running an earlier version of LOffice Version: 6.4.7.2.

On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 17:58:36 -0500, Nic <Nic@none.net> wrote:

>On 11/24/23 4:36 PM, Shadow wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 04:04:02 -0600, AllanH <nospam@unokix.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "LibreOffice is a powerful and free office suite, a successor to
>>> OpenOffice(.org), used by millions of people around the world. Its clean
>>> interface and feature-rich tools help you unleash your creativity and
>>> enhance your productivity. LibreOffice includes several applications
>>> that make it the most versatile Free and Open Source office suite on the
>>> market: Writer (word processing), Calc (spreadsheets), Impress
>>> (presentations), Draw (vector graphics and flowcharts), Base
>>> (databases), and Math (formula editing)."
>>>
>>> Home Page
>>> https://www.libreoffice.org/
>>>
>>> Release Announcement
>>> https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/11/23/libreoffice-763-and-android-viewer-app/
>> I see they insist on the inexplicable privacy issue I posted
>> about.
>> The new default is to send EVERYTHING you type to data
>> brokers....
>> Someone is going to make a LOT of money with that.
>> []'s
>> --
>> I am not seeing any leakige in my logs (LM20.3), but I am running an earlier version of LOffice Version: 6.4.7.2.

Try any version > 7.5
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On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 18:36:57 -0300, Shadow wrote:

> I see they insist on the inexplicable privacy issue I posted
> about.
> The new default is to send EVERYTHING you type to data
> brokers....
> Someone is going to make a LOT of money with that.
> []'s

I missed that. Do you have a (credible) source?

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Shadow wrote:
> AllanH wrote:
>>
>> "LibreOffice is a powerful and free office suite, a successor to
>> OpenOffice(.org), used by millions of people around the world. Its clean
>> interface and feature-rich tools help you unleash your creativity and
>> enhance your productivity. LibreOffice includes several applications
>> that make it the most versatile Free and Open Source office suite on the
>> market: Writer (word processing), Calc (spreadsheets), Impress
>> (presentations), Draw (vector graphics and flowcharts), Base
>> (databases), and Math (formula editing)."
>>
>> Home Page: https://www.libreoffice.org/
>>
>> Release Announcement
>> https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/11/23/libreoffice-763-and-android-viewer-app/
>
> I see they insist on the inexplicable privacy issue I posted
> about.
> The new default is to send EVERYTHING you type to data
> brokers....
> Someone is going to make a LOT of money with that.

Earlier you said:

> "To autocorrect your text online", even if you have that option
> disabled. It's ON by default.
>
> It's a "new feature" from v7.5 onwards, which went un-noticed.
>
> I happened to notice it in my Linux logs.
>
> I wonder what people's data goes for these days....

which I presume refers to this:

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.6/en-US/text/shared/01/06040000.html?&DbPAR=SHARED&System=WIN

Couldn't a person simply block the program from calling out by using a
firewall?

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On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:38:42 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 18:36:57 -0300, Shadow wrote:
>
>> I see they insist on the inexplicable privacy issue I posted
>> about.
>> The new default is to send EVERYTHING you type to data
>> brokers....
>> Someone is going to make a LOT of money with that.
>> []'s
>
>I missed that. Do you have a (credible) source?

Me, FWIW.
I tracked it with Wireshark. It connects regardless of if you
have spellcheck enabled or disabled. The new online spellcheck is
ENABLED by default.
To block it, just add the spellchecker domain to your hosts
file:

<api.languagetool.org>

PS John, no need for a firewall rule. It only connects to that
host.
No biggie. Just mildly annoying.
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On 11/25/23 6:47 AM, Shadow wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 10:38:42 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 24 Nov 2023 18:36:57 -0300, Shadow wrote:
>>
>>> I see they insist on the inexplicable privacy issue I posted
>>> about.
>>> The new default is to send EVERYTHING you type to data
>>> brokers....
>>> Someone is going to make a LOT of money with that.
>>> []'s
>> I missed that. Do you have a (credible) source?
> Me, FWIW.
> I tracked it with Wireshark. It connects regardless of if you
> have spellcheck enabled or disabled. The new online spellcheck is
> ENABLED by default.
> To block it, just add the spellchecker domain to your hosts
> file:
>
> <api.languagetool.org>
>
> PS John, no need for a firewall rule. It only connects to that
> host.
> No biggie. Just mildly annoying.
> []'s
> --
> Thanks for the info. I used a domain blocking tool called Net Nanny, it took less than 15 seconds to add this api.languagetool.org to my list.

John C. recharged his USB powered butt-plug in time to say this:

> Couldn't a person simply block the program from calling out by using a
> firewall?

Since John C. doesn't know any "persons," he'll just ask his sock puppets.

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On 25/11/2023 11:47, Shadow wrote:

> No biggie. Just mildly annoying.

You're kidding right. This is your chance to make history! Shape up!

I have a theory assuming that you are not bat shit crazy. Have a look at
tools > options > Language settings > LanguageTool server.

Enable Languagetool

The Base URL is set to default URL as you describe.

If you delete URL and apply it puts the URL back.

But if you put in say https://banana.invalid and apply it sticks. Do that.

Disable Languagetool,test and report back.

I would test it myself if:

1) I could be arsed

2) If I ran a hardened, superior OS but I only have Windows 10 & 11 &
Linux here.

Obviously, if it tries to connect to a banana we can alert the rebels
and sleep soundly knowing that we have freed the world.

Take care. An AI is involved. No really.

Further details here at Skynet central

https://languagetool.org/insights/post/product-libreoffice/#how-to-enable-languagetool-on-libreoffice

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On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:28:00 +0000, "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)
<super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid>" wrote:

>On 25/11/2023 11:47, Shadow wrote:
>
>> No biggie. Just mildly annoying.
>
>You're kidding right. This is your chance to make history! Shape up!
>
>I have a theory assuming that you are not bat shit crazy. Have a look at
>tools > options > Language settings > LanguageTool server.
>
>Enable Languagetool

It's already enabled by default in Debian. And apparently M$.
I saw some complaints.
>
>The Base URL is set to default URL as you describe.
>
>If you delete URL and apply it puts the URL back.

Hum, sneaky.
>
>But if you put in say https://banana.invalid and apply it sticks. Do that.
>
>Disable Languagetool,test and report back.

I'm not putting bananas anywhere. Not my style.
>
>I would test it myself if:
>
>1) I could be arsed
>
>2) If I ran a hardened, superior OS but I only have Windows 10 & 11 &
>Linux here.
>
>Obviously, if it tries to connect to a banana we can alert the rebels
>and sleep soundly knowing that we have freed the world.
>
>Take care. An AI is involved. No really.
>
>Further details here at Skynet central
>
>https://languagetool.org/insights/post/product-libreoffice/#how-to-enable-languagetool-on-libreoffice

Sounds cool ...
<Gina holds a Bachelor of Arts in English>

Did she go to the same art school your last "specialist in IT"
went to? If so, are they a couple?

PS LibreOffice doesn't run on a hardened OS. Putin must be
really annoyed about that. But OpenOffice does. It's what I use.
When I have to use a less armoured OS, I also have to use
LibreOffice. Linux sux... sometimes.

PS Research who XnView MP phones home to, if you try to edit
IPTC or EXIF on a photo. The good news, it's opt-in. For now.
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On 25/11/2023 21:56, Shadow wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 20:28:00 +0000, "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)
> <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid>" wrote:
>
>> On 25/11/2023 11:47, Shadow wrote:
>>
>>> No biggie. Just mildly annoying.
>>
>> You're kidding right. This is your chance to make history! Shape up!
>>
>> I have a theory assuming that you are not bat shit crazy. Have a look at
>> tools > options > Language settings > LanguageTool server.
>>
>> Enable Languagetool
>
> It's already enabled by default in Debian. And apparently M$.
> I saw some complaints.

Well it's not enabled here at Cat HQ by default on Windows 10 or 11 in
LibreOffice 7.5 or 7.6 so I'm a bit disappointed. "I saw some
complaints" wins the LOL award for your lack of rigor. Well done.

>>
>> The Base URL is set to default URL as you describe.
>>
>> If you delete URL and apply it puts the URL back.
>
> Hum, sneaky.

Not really. If it isn't used until enabled it's no bother. Otherwise,
it's helpful.

>> But if you put in say https://banana.invalid and apply it sticks. Do that.
>>
>> Disable Languagetool,test and report back.
>
> I'm not putting bananas anywhere. Not my style.

Well that's not very helpful because if you could be arsed to test it we
would know if that's the source of the URL you allege is used or whether
it's hardcoded. Never mind. I'm sure there's an art student somewhere
out there that can do a better job of formulating a credible bug report.

>>
>> I would test it myself if:
>>
>> 1) I could be arsed
>>
>> 2) If I ran a hardened, superior OS but I only have Windows 10 & 11 &
>> Linux here.
>>
>> Obviously, if it tries to connect to a banana we can alert the rebels
>> and sleep soundly knowing that we have freed the world.
>>
>> Take care. An AI is involved. No really.
>>
>> Further details here at Skynet central
>>
>> https://languagetool.org/insights/post/product-libreoffice/#how-to-enable-languagetool-on-libreoffice
>
> Sounds cool ...
> <Gina holds a Bachelor of Arts in English>
>
> Did she go to the same art school your last "specialist in IT"
> went to? If so, are they a couple?

I went to Art School and I had a long and successful career in IT. I
also had a long and successful career in advertising. I know, I've got
it all, the looks, the brains, and the fur. Talent oozes from every pore
and paw. In my darkest moments though I do wonder what qualifies you as
an IT specialist.

Oh! well. I tried to be helpful. No good deed goes unpunished they say
and the they are never wrong.

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Shadow <Sh@dow.br>:
> >I have a theory assuming that you are not bat shit crazy. Have a look at
> >tools > options > Language settings > LanguageTool server.
> >
> >Enable Languagetool

> It's already enabled by default in Debian. And apparently M$.
> I saw some complaints.

It's disabled here (LO 7.6.3, Linux Mint 21.2).

Some legal stuff: https://languagetool.org/legal/privacy

Users can install an extension instead: "Starting with LibreOffice
7.4, LanguageTool can be used from LibreOffice without this add-on.
However, there are some reasons to use the extension:
The extension runs on the local machine. No remote server is
needed.(...)"
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/en/extensions/show/languagetool

However, the extension needs the Java runtime environment, which users
can (de)activate in the LO settings.
So if you want to use LanguageTool (I don't), you have to choose
between the online version or the extension+JRE. It's the user's
choice.

Also:
https://github.com/languagetool-org/languagetool

Yrrah

On 25/11/2023 21:56, Shadow wrote:
> I saw some complaints.

Amazingly with only my art college background to guide me I was able to
test this.

Libreoffice 7.5 on Windows 10.

If you turn the Languagetool server off in options. It doesn't send
anything. If you turn it on it does.

Exactly what automatic spell checking is in Libreoffice I dunno but
spell checking as you type doesn't seem to use the remote server. It
uses the local dictionary.

The only time it makes a connection to the Languagetool server is when
you manually spellcheck and then it seems to only check grammar unless
you have turned the local spellchecker off when in addition it seems to
check the spelling.

All in all I found it a bit slow.

So there you go. You have a credible source. Have a nice day.

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On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 15:48:00 +0000, "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)
<super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid>" wrote:

>On 25/11/2023 21:56, Shadow wrote:
>> I saw some complaints.
>
>Amazingly with only my art college background to guide me I was able to
>test this.
>
>Libreoffice 7.5 on Windows 10.
>
>If you turn the Languagetool server off in options. It doesn't send
>anything. If you turn it on it does.
>
>Exactly what automatic spell checking is in Libreoffice I dunno but
>spell checking as you type doesn't seem to use the remote server. It
>uses the local dictionary.
>
>The only time it makes a connection to the Languagetool server is when
>you manually spellcheck and then it seems to only check grammar unless
>you have turned the local spellchecker off when in addition it seems to
>check the spelling.
>
>All in all I found it a bit slow.
>
>So there you go. You have a credible source. Have a nice day.
>
>Not recommended by cats.

What? The nice day? I thought cats always wanted their slaves
to have a nice day.

<https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/libreoffice-writer-wont-start-unless-api-languagetool-org-is-reachable-over-network/95186>

Not me. I wouldn't touch Fedora with a bargepole.
Note he also had spellcheck DISABLED. Still it phoned home.

If you put the languagetool api domain in your /etc/hosts file
it DOES resolve. To localhost. LibreOffice is happy. And so am I.
Dunno why the guy made so much fuss over it.
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On 26/11/2023 16:48, p-0 0-h the cat (coder)
<super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote:
> On 25/11/2023 21:56, Shadow wrote:
>> I saw some complaints.
>
> Amazingly with only my art college background to guide me I was able to
> test this.
>
> Libreoffice 7.5 on Windows 10.
>
> If you turn the Languagetool server off in options. It doesn't send
> anything. If you turn it on it does.

Hmm. I'm have LibreOffice portable on my Win 10. The Languagetool
server is off, *by default*. If you want privacy, why turn the option on?

>
> Exactly what automatic spell checking is in Libreoffice I dunno but
> spell checking as you type doesn't seem to use the remote server. It
> uses the local dictionary.
>
> The only time it makes a connection to the Languagetool server is when
> you manually spellcheck and then it seems to only check grammar unless
> you have turned the local spellchecker off when in addition it seems to
> check the spelling.
>
> All in all I found it a bit slow.
>
> So there you go. You have a credible source. Have a nice day.
>
> Not recommended by cats.
>

This dog does not use it, yet. But when I purchase my next laptop, I
will use it instead of MS Office, as I no longer have access to a free
MS Office (academic) license through the university server.

On 28/11/2023 08:31, occam wrote:
> On 26/11/2023 16:48, p-0 0-h the cat (coder)
> <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote:
>> On 25/11/2023 21:56, Shadow wrote:
>>> I saw some complaints.
>>
>> Amazingly with only my art college background to guide me I was able to
>> test this.
>>
>> Libreoffice 7.5 on Windows 10.
>>
>> If you turn the Languagetool server off in options. It doesn't send
>> anything. If you turn it on it does.
>
> Hmm. I'm have LibreOffice portable on my Win 10. The Languagetool
> server is off, *by default*. If you want privacy, why turn the option on?

You don't want to be worrying your pretty little head about such
matters. Rest assured that Libreoffice is programmed and hosted by a
close knit team of angels resident in Kubla Khan. It's free as in liege.
See vassal.

>> Exactly what automatic spell checking is in Libreoffice I dunno but
>> spell checking as you type doesn't seem to use the remote server. It
>> uses the local dictionary.
>>
>> The only time it makes a connection to the Languagetool server is when
>> you manually spellcheck and then it seems to only check grammar unless
>> you have turned the local spellchecker off when in addition it seems to
>> check the spelling.
>>
>> All in all I found it a bit slow.
>>
>> So there you go. You have a credible source. Have a nice day.
>>
>> Not recommended by cats.
>>
>
> This dog does not use it, yet. But when I purchase my next laptop, I
> will use it instead of MS Office, as I no longer have access to a free
> MS Office (academic) license through the university server.

I have been on that journey. Years of pain lie ahead for you apostle.
You will deny Microsoft many times before the rooster crows but we know
your heart is ours and we will wait to welcome you home when you slip
out the back door and escape from the clutches of the cult forever.

Toodle-oo

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On 27/11/2023 16:09, Shadow wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023 15:48:00 +0000, "p-0 0-h the cat (coder)
> <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid>" wrote:
>
>> On 25/11/2023 21:56, Shadow wrote:
>>> I saw some complaints.
>>
>> Amazingly with only my art college background to guide me I was able to
>> test this.
>>
>> Libreoffice 7.5 on Windows 10.
>>
>> If you turn the Languagetool server off in options. It doesn't send
>> anything. If you turn it on it does.
>>
>> Exactly what automatic spell checking is in Libreoffice I dunno but
>> spell checking as you type doesn't seem to use the remote server. It
>> uses the local dictionary.
>>
>> The only time it makes a connection to the Languagetool server is when
>> you manually spellcheck and then it seems to only check grammar unless
>> you have turned the local spellchecker off when in addition it seems to
>> check the spelling.
>>
>> All in all I found it a bit slow.
>>
>> So there you go. You have a credible source. Have a nice day.
>>
>> Not recommended by cats.
>
> What? The nice day? I thought cats always wanted their slaves
> to have a nice day.
>
> <https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/libreoffice-writer-wont-start-unless-api-languagetool-org-is-reachable-over-network/95186>
>
> Not me. I wouldn't touch Fedora with a bargepole.
> Note he also had spellcheck DISABLED. Still it phoned home.
>
> If you put the languagetool api domain in your /etc/hosts file
> it DOES resolve. To localhost. LibreOffice is happy. And so am I.
> Dunno why the guy made so much fuss over it.

Some of us wonder why you made such a fuss over it or have you forgotten
your wild conspiracy theories already?

Anyway, the *bug* born with alleged evil intent has been 'fixed' on that
most holy of operating systems. I say 'fixed' because the discussion
here seems focused on LO hanging when DNS doesn't resolve and not on
whether it attempts to connect irrespective of whether languagetool is
enabled or not.

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158093

Fixed? I do hope so. Those of us sensitive to these issues i.e. JC and
Shit the cat may need counseling after this furore. Have you considered
toning down your headline grabbing accusations in future. This isn't the
website of a popular culture tabloid. We have standards here.

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On 28/11/2023 15:53, p-0 0-h the cat (coder)
<super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote:
>> This dog does not use it, yet. But when I purchase my next laptop, I
>> will use it instead of MS Office, as I no longer have access to a free
>> MS Office (academic) license through the university server.
>
> I have been on that journey. Years of pain lie ahead for you apostle.
> You will deny Microsoft many times before the rooster crows but we know
> your heart is ours and we will wait to welcome you home when you slip
> out the back door and escape from the clutches of the cult forever.
>
> Toodle-oo

There is a paranoid ondertone in your reply. I have learnt long ago not
to argue with paranoids.

Give the choice of paying to be spied on (MS Office) vs using a freebie
(LibreOffice) - which may or may not spy on me - I'd rather go with the
latter. After all this is what ACL is all about.

P.S. Why would a piece of software offer the option of switching on or
off an option (LanguageTool server), if it plans to spy with it anyway?
Just a thought, or another hook to hang your paranoid thoughts on?

On 29/11/2023 10:44, occam wrote:
> On 28/11/2023 15:53, p-0 0-h the cat (coder)
> <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote:
>>> This dog does not use it, yet. But when I purchase my next laptop, I
>>> will use it instead of MS Office, as I no longer have access to a free
>>> MS Office (academic) license through the university server.
>>
>> I have been on that journey. Years of pain lie ahead for you apostle.
>> You will deny Microsoft many times before the rooster crows but we know
>> your heart is ours and we will wait to welcome you home when you slip
>> out the back door and escape from the clutches of the cult forever.
>>
>> Toodle-oo
>
> There is a paranoid ondertone in your reply. I have learnt long ago not
> to argue with paranoids.

Dunno where you got that idea, I was just rather abstractly perhaps,
proffering my opinion that MS Office is worth every penny. OEM at £25
per year ish say is peanuts for software of that quality. Excel alone
can make or save you a lot of money. Something worth getting out of bed
for. Calc is OK but it's clunky. Excel is like a well worn welly. It's
comfy and gives you space to think. Help is just a Google away and
there's loads, megatons of it. 'It's so empowering' in the modern
parlance of the pokey pokey smartphone warriors. Bless them. Outlook is
the best. Thinking about using anything else is just plain horrid, and
Word is really excellent now for documentation. No more txt files for
me. Where's your ambition. The cult will just drag you down to their
level. They will. Cats know.

> Give the choice of paying to be spied on (MS Office) vs using a freebie
> (LibreOffice) - which may or may not spy on me - I'd rather go with the
> latter. After all this is what ACL is all about.

Oh dear, so MS definitely spies on you but LibreOffice may or may not.
It never ceases to amaze me how the word 'Free' enslaves minds so
quickly. I fear we may have lost you. Worse, you may have lost yourself.
Everyone is spied on. Hiding is practically impossible.

> P.S. Why would a piece of software offer the option of switching on or
> off an option (LanguageTool server), if it plans to spy with it anyway?

I never thought this option was spying on anybody. That came from the
one born from the exclusion of light. Spot the deliberate allegory. It's
just a bug on the cult OS version. For spy catchers with paranoia look
for the usual suspects.

> Just a thought, or another hook to hang your paranoid thoughts on?

Free is not always the cheap or best option. Listen to Pooh.

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On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:47:43 -0300, Shadow wrote:

> Me, FWIW.
> I tracked it with Wireshark. It connects regardless of if you
> have spellcheck enabled or disabled. The new online spellcheck is
> ENABLED by default.
> To block it, just add the spellchecker domain to your hosts
> file:
>
> <api.languagetool.org>

I've got a RPi set up with Pi-Hole, so it acts as a DNS. I've opened
Writer, typed some words with the auto spell check enabled. I don't see
<api.languagetool.org> in the logs.

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On Sat, 02 Dec 2023 21:00:55 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Nov 2023 08:47:43 -0300, Shadow wrote:
>
>> Me, FWIW.
>> I tracked it with Wireshark. It connects regardless of if you
>> have spellcheck enabled or disabled. The new online spellcheck is
>> ENABLED by default.
>> To block it, just add the spellchecker domain to your hosts
>> file:
>>
>> <api.languagetool.org>
>
>I've got a RPi set up with Pi-Hole, so it acts as a DNS. I've opened
>Writer, typed some words with the auto spell check enabled. I don't see
><api.languagetool.org> in the logs.

Updated to the latest version today. With all the "bugfixes".
This is what I get, after commenting languagetool in my /etc/hosts and
opening a blank Calc spreadsheet. There was nothing to spellcheck.

<https://postimg.cc/gallery/9TkbLr6>

PS LibreOffice does not run under XP. That's my Debian (Devuan)build.
I could probably debugger it better under XP.
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On Sun, 03 Dec 2023 10:50:05 -0300, Shadow wrote:

> Updated to the latest version today. With all the "bugfixes".
> This is what I get, after commenting languagetool in my /etc/hosts and
> opening a blank Calc spreadsheet. There was nothing to spellcheck.
>
> <https://postimg.cc/gallery/9TkbLr6>

Your second screenshot: this was already disabled (by default), so I
guess that's why I'm not seeing anything. I'm using 7.6.3.2 under W11.

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On Sun, 03 Dec 2023 15:57:16 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Dec 2023 10:50:05 -0300, Shadow wrote:
>
>> Updated to the latest version today. With all the "bugfixes".
>> This is what I get, after commenting languagetool in my /etc/hosts and
>> opening a blank Calc spreadsheet. There was nothing to spellcheck.
>>
>> <https://postimg.cc/gallery/9TkbLr6>
>
>Your second screenshot: this was already disabled (by default)

Nope. When I saw it phoning home a couple of builds back, I
disabled it. It was ENABLED by default.
And still it phoned home.
So I put it in my /etc/hosts file.
(which I commented out for this test).

>, so I guess that's why I'm not seeing anything. I'm using 7.6.3.2 under W11.

I'm on 7.5.9 (I think). Whatever it was, it updated today and
was a "privacy/security" bugfix.
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On 03/12/2023 15:33, Shadow wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2023 15:57:16 +0100, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2023 10:50:05 -0300, Shadow wrote:
>>
>>> Updated to the latest version today. With all the "bugfixes".
>>> This is what I get, after commenting languagetool in my /etc/hosts and
>>> opening a blank Calc spreadsheet. There was nothing to spellcheck.
>>>
>>> <https://postimg.cc/gallery/9TkbLr6>
>>
>> Your second screenshot: this was already disabled (by default)
>
> Nope. When I saw it phoning home a couple of builds back, I
> disabled it. It was ENABLED by default.
> And still it phoned home.
> So I put it in my /etc/hosts file.
> (which I commented out for this test).
>
>> , so I guess that's why I'm not seeing anything. I'm using 7.6.3.2 under W11.
>
> I'm on 7.5.9 (I think). Whatever it was, it updated today and
> was a "privacy/security" bugfix.
> LOL

I did say but you obviously don't parlez cat. They weren't fixing what
you thought they were fixing.

Here is a translation from English into English

"Anyway, the *bug* born with alleged evil intent has been 'fixed' on
that most holy of operating systems. I say 'fixed' because the
discussion here seems focused on LO hanging when DNS doesn't resolve and
not on whether it attempts to connect irrespective of whether
languagetool is enabled or not.

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158093"

Is this an example of the legendary support Yrrah is always going on about?

Anyway, in precis for those with a short attention span it sounds like
they fixed the hanging bug but not the issue you are all rattling on
about. You could take a trip over there and ask them nicely.

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