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[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?

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From: NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it (MarioCPPP)
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Subject: [semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?
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by: MarioCPPP - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:04 UTC

I've come across this site, for completely different reasons
(getting a free domain name),

https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en

In a video, a girl suggests changing
my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to

CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
80.80.80.80
80.80.81.81

to avoid logging and so

First, does anybody know the site is reputable ?
Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?
The change is session-bound or permanent ?

If it is wise, HOW to change it ?

I still have to understood if this change would be necessary
to use their free domain names or not. A thing at a time :D
:D :D

tnx in advance

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2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
MarioCPPP

Re: [semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?

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by: Marco Moock - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:35 UTC

Am 25.06.2023 um 16:04:07 Uhr schrieb MarioCPPP:

> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?

What is your goal in doing this?

> The change is session-bound or permanent ?

There are ways to make it permanent.

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Subject: Re: [semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?
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by: Joerg Lorenz - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 14:58 UTC

Am 25.06.23 um 16:04 schrieb MarioCPPP:
>
> I've come across this site, for completely different reasons
> (getting a free domain name),
>
> https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
>
> In a video, a girl suggests changing
> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>
> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
> 80.80.80.80
> 80.80.81.81
>
> to avoid logging and so
>
> First, does anybody know the site is reputable ?
> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?
> The change is session-bound or permanent ?

Why should you change your DNS-server. Problems with the current IPs
setting?

No idea whether this site is acceptable.

I use

https://unicast.uncensoreddns.org/dns-query in Firefox "DNS over HTTPS".
> If it is wise, HOW to change it ?

FF: Settings - Privacy & Security - DNS over HTTPS. Nobody can track
what you do thanks to the transport-encryption. The server stands in
Denmark and the name says it all.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

Re: [semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?

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Subject: Re: [semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?
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by: Joerg Lorenz - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:11 UTC

Am 25.06.23 um 16:58 schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
> Am 25.06.23 um 16:04 schrieb MarioCPPP:
>> If it is wise, HOW to change it ?
>
> FF: Settings - Privacy & Security - DNS over HTTPS. Nobody can track
> what you do thanks to the transport-encryption. The server stands in
> Denmark and the name says it all.

If you want to change the DNS-server-address permanently for a
connection in your Linux than go to

Network Settings - Choose Settings Button for the connection concerned.
Choose IPv4 and add the server address. This one has to have the
conventional format xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx.

Be always sure that you know what you are doing and write down the old
setting just in case ...

Personally I want to make sure that nor a US nor a Chinese DNS-server is
chosen.

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by: Joerg Lorenz - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:22 UTC

Am 25.06.23 um 16:58 schrieb Joerg Lorenz:
> Am 25.06.23 um 16:04 schrieb MarioCPPP:
>>
>> I've come across this site, for completely different reasons
>> (getting a free domain name),
>>
>> https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
>>
>> In a video, a girl suggests changing
>> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>>
>> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
>> 80.80.80.80
>> 80.80.81.81
>>
>> to avoid logging and so
>>
>> First, does anybody know the site is reputable ?
>> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?
>> The change is session-bound or permanent ?
>
> Why should you change your DNS-server. Problems with the current IPs
> setting?
>
> No idea whether this site is acceptable.
>
> I use
>
> https://unicast.uncensoreddns.org/dns-query in Firefox "DNS over HTTPS".
>> If it is wise, HOW to change it ?
>
> FF: Settings - Privacy & Security - DNS over HTTPS. Nobody can track
> what you do thanks to the transport-encryption. The server stands in
> Denmark and the name says it all.

I just checked: Works also in Chromium.

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Re: [semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?

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by: MarioCPPP - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:52 UTC

On 25/06/23 16:35, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 25.06.2023 um 16:04:07 Uhr schrieb MarioCPPP:
>
>> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?
>
> What is your goal in doing this?

good question.
I am not sure, but It seemed to me that, in order to allow
their service (the free domain name), I should change my DNS.
I might have misunderstood though ...

>
>> The change is session-bound or permanent ?
>
> There are ways to make it permanent.
>

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2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
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by: MarioCPPP - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:55 UTC

On 25/06/23 16:58, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 25.06.23 um 16:04 schrieb MarioCPPP:
>>
>> I've come across this site, for completely different reasons
>> (getting a free domain name),
>>
>> https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
>>
>> In a video, a girl suggests changing
>> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>>
>> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
>> 80.80.80.80
>> 80.80.81.81
>>
>> to avoid logging and so
>>
>> First, does anybody know the site is reputable ?
>> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?
>> The change is session-bound or permanent ?
>
> Why should you change your DNS-server. Problems with the current IPs
> setting?

no, nothing related.
I was looking for a FREE DOMAIN registrar, it turned up that
site, that (also ?) recommended to change own's IP ... dunno
per se or to have their service to work

>
> No idea whether this site is acceptable.
>
> I use
>
> https://unicast.uncensoreddns.org/dns-query in Firefox "DNS over HTTPS".
>> If it is wise, HOW to change it ?
>
> FF: Settings - Privacy & Security - DNS over HTTPS. Nobody can track
> what you do thanks to the transport-encryption. The server stands in
> Denmark and the name says it all.
>

that's serendipity !!! Tnx for good advice, I save it for
later !

>
>

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2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
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by: Richard Kettlewell - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:58 UTC

MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> writes:
> I've come across this site, for completely different reasons (getting
> a free domain name),
>
> https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
>
> In a video, a girl suggests changing
> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>
> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
> 80.80.80.80
> 80.80.81.81
>
> to avoid logging and so

Don’t bother. If you care about logging then changing DNS provider just
adds another place logs can be taken.

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by: MarioCPPP - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:09 UTC

On 25/06/23 17:58, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> writes:
>> I've come across this site, for completely different reasons (getting
>> a free domain name),
>>
>> https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
>>
>> In a video, a girl suggests changing
>> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>>
>> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
>> 80.80.80.80
>> 80.80.81.81
>>
>> to avoid logging and so
>
> Don’t bother. If you care about logging then changing DNS provider just
> adds another place logs can be taken.
>
secondarily.
My original aim was to look for a free domain name
registrar. Then I was lured by the video :D :D :D

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by: Marco Moock - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 19:00 UTC

Am 25.06.2023 um 17:52:29 Uhr schrieb MarioCPPP:

> On 25/06/23 16:35, Marco Moock wrote:
> > Am 25.06.2023 um 16:04:07 Uhr schrieb MarioCPPP:
> >
> >> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?
> >
> > What is your goal in doing this?
>
> good question.
> I am not sure, but It seemed to me that, in order to allow
> their service (the free domain name), I should change my DNS.
> I might have misunderstood though ...

To use a domain name it is completely irrelevant which resolver you use.
No need to change it until there are other reasons.

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by: J.O. Aho - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 20:31 UTC

On 6/25/23 16:04, MarioCPPP wrote:

> In a video, a girl suggests changing
> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>
> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
> 80.80.80.80
> 80.80.81.81
>
> to avoid logging and so

As dns requests are done with clear text requests, your ISP can still
track which sites you request dns lookups for and they will always be
able to track which web servers you visit as long as you don't use VPN.

The only way to hide information from your ISP without VPN of some sort
would be using dns-over-https (DoH) or dns-over-tls (DoT), sure the
nameserver which you use over DoH/DoT can still track your requests if
they want. There are lists over nameserver which you should avoid. This
will of course require you do more than just change namservers in the
Linux configuration, simplest is to setup a dnscrypt service and then
change the ip to the machines ip that provides the dnscrypt.

I do not recommend you to do this, but if you want to play with it,
there are plenty of websites describing it.

> First, does anybody know the site is reputable ?

Never heard about them before this post, so maybe not that great?

> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?

This depends much on your reason, most times your ISPs will be okay and
in some odd network setup you may need to have them while your internet
connection is established.

> The change is session-bound or permanent ?

Depends on your system, for example systemd don't do things like others,
using dhcp client may rewrite the resolve.conf each time the IP-lease is
renewed. So you need to know what you are using and how to configure it
to be able to get a permanent change.

> If it is wise, HOW to change it ?

Depends on what service is in charge of your resolve.conf

> I still have to understood if this change would be necessary to use
> their free domain names or not. A thing at a time :D :D :D

No, this is just a way to track you, as you know nothing is free.

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by: Allodoxaphobia - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 20:35 UTC

On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 17:52:29 +0200, MarioCPPP wrote:
> On 25/06/23 16:35, Marco Moock wrote:
>> Am 25.06.2023 um 16:04:07 Uhr schrieb MarioCPPP:
>>
>>> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?
>>
>> What is your goal in doing this?
>
> good question.
> I am not sure, but It seemed to me that, in order to allow
> their service (the free domain name), I should change my DNS.
> I might have misunderstood though ...

It might or might not be required. But, I honestly can't
think of why it would be required.
The two DNS IPs you listed (80.80.80.80 & 80.80.81.81)
belong to "Freenom DNS Cloud" 80.80.80.0/24
I would think that all Freenom could gather would be the
traffic count to your 'free domain' and where it's coming from.

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by: Carlos E.R. - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 21:36 UTC

On 2023-06-25 22:35, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 17:52:29 +0200, MarioCPPP wrote:
>> On 25/06/23 16:35, Marco Moock wrote:
>>> Am 25.06.2023 um 16:04:07 Uhr schrieb MarioCPPP:
>>>
>>>> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?
>>>
>>> What is your goal in doing this?
>>
>> good question.
>> I am not sure, but It seemed to me that, in order to allow
>> their service (the free domain name), I should change my DNS.
>> I might have misunderstood though ...
>
> It might or might not be required. But, I honestly can't
> think of why it would be required.
> The two DNS IPs you listed (80.80.80.80 & 80.80.81.81)
> belong to "Freenom DNS Cloud" 80.80.80.0/24
> I would think that all Freenom could gather would be the
> traffic count to your 'free domain' and where it's coming from.

Not really.

The machine pointed to by the "free domain" can be a different one, at a
different city, for all they know, that the machine he is using for his
browsing, email, whatever.

And no matter what resolver he uses, they will get information on who
queries the free domain (which is not the same as who actually connects
to it).

--
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by: Dan Purgert - Sun, 25 Jun 2023 21:55 UTC

On 2023-06-25, MarioCPPP wrote:
>
> I've come across this site, for completely different reasons
> (getting a free domain name),
>
> https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
>
> In a video, a girl suggests changing
> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>
> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
> 80.80.80.80
> 80.80.81.81
>
> to avoid logging and so
>
> First, does anybody know the site is reputable ?

Never heard of them, but I doubt there would be "no" logging at all.
Remember that providers tend to want to stay on the up-and-up with their
state governments ...

> Would it be wise to change own's DNS ?

It can be, if your ISP's name servers are slow.

> The change is session-bound or permanent ?

It's as permanent as long as you want it to be (i.e. until you change it
in the future).

>
> If it is wise, HOW to change it ?

On a single (Linux) machine -> Network Manager (or whatever tool you use
to connect to your network).

For your entire LAN -> check the manual for your router.

>
> I still have to understood if this change would be necessary
> to use their free domain names or not. A thing at a time :D

Generally one does not need to use a particular DNS service to find
hostnames they "manage". If that was the case, there wouldn't be so
many competing options ;)

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by: Jasen Betts - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 06:49 UTC

On 2023-06-25, MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> wrote:
>
> I've come across this site, for completely different reasons
> (getting a free domain name),
>
> https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
>
> In a video, a girl suggests changing
> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>
> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
> 80.80.80.80
> 80.80.81.81

so far as I can tell their resolver does not work.
whether or not it's safe is immaterial.

--
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by: Carlos E.R. - Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:25 UTC

On 2023-06-26 08:49, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2023-06-25, MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> wrote:
>>
>> I've come across this site, for completely different reasons
>> (getting a free domain name),
>>
>> https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
>>
>> In a video, a girl suggests changing
>> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>>
>> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
>> 80.80.80.80
>> 80.80.81.81
>
> so far as I can tell their resolver does not work.
> whether or not it's safe is immaterial.
>

It works.

cer@Telcontar:~> host google.es 80.80.80.80
Using domain server:
Name: 80.80.80.80
Address: 80.80.80.80#53
Aliases:

google.es has address 142.250.186.67
google.es has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:4001:828::2003
google.es mail is handled by 0 smtp.google.com.
cer@Telcontar:~> host google.es 80.80.81.81
Using domain server:
Name: 80.80.81.81
Address: 80.80.81.81#53
Aliases:

google.es has address 142.250.200.99
google.es has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:4003:80e::2003
google.es mail is handled by 0 smtp.google.com.
cer@Telcontar:~>

--
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by: Jasen Betts - Tue, 27 Jun 2023 09:17 UTC

On 2023-06-26, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-06-26 08:49, Jasen Betts wrote:
>> On 2023-06-25, MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've come across this site, for completely different reasons
>>> (getting a free domain name),
>>>
>>> https://www.freenom.com/en/index.html?lang=en
>>>
>>> In a video, a girl suggests changing
>>> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>>>
>>> CHANGE YOUR DNS TO
>>> 80.80.80.80
>>> 80.80.81.81
>>
>> so far as I can tell their resolver does not work.
>> whether or not it's safe is immaterial.
>>
>
> It works.
>
> cer@Telcontar:~> host google.es 80.80.80.80
> Using domain server:
> Name: 80.80.80.80
> Address: 80.80.80.80#53
> Aliases:
>
> google.es has address 142.250.186.67
> google.es has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:4001:828::2003
> google.es mail is handled by 0 smtp.google.com.
> cer@Telcontar:~> host google.es 80.80.81.81
> Using domain server:
> Name: 80.80.81.81
> Address: 80.80.81.81#53
> Aliases:
>
> google.es has address 142.250.200.99
> google.es has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:4003:80e::2003
> google.es mail is handled by 0 smtp.google.com.
> cer@Telcontar:~>

nah still broken: the first was yesterday.

jasen@crackle:~/games$ host google.com 80.80.80.80
;; communications error to 80.80.80.80#53: timed out
;; communications error to 80.80.80.80#53: timed out
;; no servers could be reached

but yeah reacahable from other places, seems to be a
routing screw-up somewhere in Australia.

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> On 2023-06-26, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2023-06-26 08:49, Jasen Betts wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-25, MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> In a video, a girl suggests changing
>>>> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>>>>
>>>> 80.80.80.80
>>>> 80.80.81.81
>>>
>>> so far as I can tell their resolver does not work.
>>> whether or not it's safe is immaterial.
>>>
>>
>> It works.
>> [...]
>
> nah still broken: the first was yesterday.
>
> [...]
>
> but yeah reacahable from other places, seems to be a
> routing screw-up somewhere in Australia.

Could be that, what's traceroute say?

It does work from here:
$ host google.com 80.80.80.80
Using domain server:
Name: 80.80.80.80
Address: 80.80.80.80#53
Aliases:

google.com has address 172.217.18.14
google.com has IPv6 address 2a00:1450:4001:80b::200e
google.com mail is handled by 10 smtp.google.com.

Also grabbed some details from dig, which I find easier to read than
'host -d':
$ dig google.com @80.80.80.80

; <<>> DiG 9.18.12-1-Debian <<>> google.com @80.80.80.80
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 24009
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;google.com. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
google.com. 229 IN A 172.217.18.14

;; Query time: 62 msec
;; SERVER: 80.80.80.80#53(80.80.80.80) (UDP)
;; WHEN: Tue Jun 27 10:45:38 EDT 2023
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 55

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by: Jasen Betts - Thu, 29 Jun 2023 10:41 UTC

On 2023-06-27, Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
> On 2023-06-27, Jasen Betts wrote:
>> On 2023-06-26, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-26 08:49, Jasen Betts wrote:
>>>> On 2023-06-25, MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>> In a video, a girl suggests changing
>>>>> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>>>>>
>>>>> 80.80.80.80
>>>>> 80.80.81.81
>>>>
>>>> so far as I can tell their resolver does not work.
>>>> whether or not it's safe is immaterial.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It works.
>>> [...]
>>
>> nah still broken: the first was yesterday.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> but yeah reacahable from other places, seems to be a
>> routing screw-up somewhere in Australia.
>
> Could be that, what's traceroute say?

The packets go to Australia"

My traceroute [v0.95]
crackle (192.168.2.105) -> 80.80.80.80 (80.80.80.80) 2023-06-29T22:38:05+1200
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
....
5. default-rdns.vocus.co.nz 0.0% 56 17.7 17.6 17.4 17.9 0.1
6. 10.101.20.167 0.0% 56 45.1 49.5 43.9 88.3 12.3
7. as9790.bdr04.syd03.nsw.vocus.network 0.0% 56 42.0 42.4 41.5 44.3 0.5
8. be1002.bdr04.syd03.nsw.vocus.network 49.1% 56 42.4 42.7 42.2 47.5 1.0
9. be114.cor02.syd04.nsw.vocus.network 0.0% 56 42.5 42.6 42.1 43.0 0.2
10. be101.bdr02.syd03.nsw.vocus.network 0.0% 56 42.6 43.1 42.5 49.9 1.0
11. 223.119.48.10 0.0% 56 43.0 43.0 42.1 45.2 0.4
12. 223.118.4.86 0.0% 56 139.2 139.2 138.9 139.6 0.1
13. 223.118.4.217 0.0% 56 133.9 134.1 133.5 135.5 0.4
14. 223.120.2.54 53.6% 56 170.7 171.2 170.5 173.2 0.7
15. (waiting for reply)
16. (waiting for reply)
17. (waiting for reply)
18. 80.80.80.80 0.0% 56 169.6 169.5 169.3 169.9 0.1

> It does work from here:

yeah, I'm not disputing that

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by: Paul - Thu, 29 Jun 2023 12:28 UTC

On 6/29/2023 6:41 AM, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2023-06-27, Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>> On 2023-06-27, Jasen Betts wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-26, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-06-26 08:49, Jasen Betts wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-06-25, MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> In a video, a girl suggests changing
>>>>>> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 80.80.80.80
>>>>>> 80.80.81.81
>>>>>
>>>>> so far as I can tell their resolver does not work.
>>>>> whether or not it's safe is immaterial.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It works.
>>>> [...]
>>>
>>> nah still broken: the first was yesterday.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> but yeah reacahable from other places, seems to be a
>>> routing screw-up somewhere in Australia.
>>
>> Could be that, what's traceroute say?
>
> The packets go to Australia"
>
> My traceroute [v0.95]
> crackle (192.168.2.105) -> 80.80.80.80 (80.80.80.80) 2023-06-29T22:38:05+1200
> Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
> Packets Pings
> Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
> ....
> 5. default-rdns.vocus.co.nz 0.0% 56 17.7 17.6 17.4 17.9 0.1
> 6. 10.101.20.167 0.0% 56 45.1 49.5 43.9 88.3 12.3
> 7. as9790.bdr04.syd03.nsw.vocus.network 0.0% 56 42.0 42.4 41.5 44.3 0.5
> 8. be1002.bdr04.syd03.nsw.vocus.network 49.1% 56 42.4 42.7 42.2 47.5 1.0
> 9. be114.cor02.syd04.nsw.vocus.network 0.0% 56 42.5 42.6 42.1 43.0 0.2
> 10. be101.bdr02.syd03.nsw.vocus.network 0.0% 56 42.6 43.1 42.5 49.9 1.0
> 11. 223.119.48.10 0.0% 56 43.0 43.0 42.1 45.2 0.4
> 12. 223.118.4.86 0.0% 56 139.2 139.2 138.9 139.6 0.1
> 13. 223.118.4.217 0.0% 56 133.9 134.1 133.5 135.5 0.4
> 14. 223.120.2.54 53.6% 56 170.7 171.2 170.5 173.2 0.7
> 15. (waiting for reply)
> 16. (waiting for reply)
> 17. (waiting for reply)
> 18. 80.80.80.80 0.0% 56 169.6 169.5 169.3 169.9 0.1
>
>> It does work from here:
>
> yeah, I'm not disputing that
>

223.118.4.217 is Hong Kong

"The IP address 223.120.2.54 was found in Hong Kong. It is allocated to Level 30, Tower 1"
"ASN: AS58453"

AS58453 China Mobile International Limited
bgp.he.net › AS58453

Paul

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by: Dan Purgert - Thu, 29 Jun 2023 14:13 UTC

On 2023-06-29, Jasen Betts wrote:
> On 2023-06-27, Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:
>> On 2023-06-27, Jasen Betts wrote:
>>> On 2023-06-26, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-06-26 08:49, Jasen Betts wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-06-25, MarioCPPP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> wrote:
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> In a video, a girl suggests changing
>>>>>> my ? my provider ? sb's DNS to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 80.80.80.80
>>>>>> 80.80.81.81
>>>>>
>>>>> so far as I can tell their resolver does not work.
>>>>> whether or not it's safe is immaterial.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It works.
>>>> [...]
>>>
>>> nah still broken: the first was yesterday.
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> but yeah reacahable from other places, seems to be a
>>> routing screw-up somewhere in Australia.
>>
>> Could be that, what's traceroute say?
>
> The packets go to Australia"
>
> 8. be1002.bdr04.syd03.nsw.vocus.network 49.1% 56 42.4 42.7 42.2 47.5 1.0
> 14. 223.120.2.54 53.6% 56 170.7 171.2 170.5 173.2 0.7

.... ouch those two hops are losing quite a significant amount of the
traffic ... (well, at least traceroute traffic anyway)

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[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	MarioCPPP
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case	Marco Moock
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	MarioCPPP
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case	Marco Moock
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Allodoxaphobia
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Carlos E.R.
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Joerg Lorenz
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Joerg Lorenz
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Joerg Lorenz
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	MarioCPPP
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Richard Kettlewell
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	MarioCPPP
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	J.O. Aho
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Dan Purgert
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Jasen Betts
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Carlos E.R.
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Jasen Betts
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Dan Purgert
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Jasen Betts
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Paul
[semi-OT] Changing DNS in Debian and, above all, is it the case ?	Dan Purgert