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* Re: google groups usersJan K.
+- Re: google groups usersD
+- Re: google groups usersMarco Moock
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From: janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com (Jan K.)
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Subject: Re: google groups users
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 by: Jan K. - Thu, 15 Feb 2024 16:06 UTC

W Thu, 15 Feb 2024 16:39:32 +0100 (CET), D napisal:

> google groups users may not realize the fundamental differences between
> the autonomous/decentralized usenet, versus the proprietary/centralized
> alphabet/google corporation; the isolation of google groups from usenet
> provides incentive for multitudes of google's users to seek free usenet
> news servers, apps, and websites, that will help them to stay connected

I'm a google groupie, where I had a free usernet news server.
And I had a free lookup engine that went back to the dawn of time.

Now what?

Paganini stinks (as you must already know by now) because of its
many crazy badword and random badurl and poison group filters.

And a web browser is no longer the portal for posting to usernet groups.

What free news server do you recommend most google groupies migrate to.
And what free long-standing usernet lookup engine for do you recommend?

Re: google groups users

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 by: D - Thu, 15 Feb 2024 17:32 UTC

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 11:06:48 -0500, "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> wrote:
>W Thu, 15 Feb 2024 16:39:32 +0100 (CET), D napisal:
>> google groups users may not realize the fundamental differences between
>> the autonomous/decentralized usenet, versus the proprietary/centralized
>> alphabet/google corporation; the isolation of google groups from usenet
>> provides incentive for multitudes of google's users to seek free usenet
>> news servers, apps, and websites, that will help them to stay connected
>
>I'm a google groupie, where I had a free usernet news server.
>And I had a free lookup engine that went back to the dawn of time.
>Now what?
>Paganini stinks (as you must already know by now) because of its
>many crazy badword and random badurl and poison group filters.
>And a web browser is no longer the portal for posting to usernet groups.
>What free news server do you recommend most google groupies migrate to.
>And what free long-standing usernet lookup engine for do you recommend?

i've been using remailers exclusively for posting to usenet newsgroups
since 1998 . . . but for more traditional free nntp news servers which
allow posting, sybershock's sysadmin posted this timely witticism with
helpful link to "free usenet servers" (https://sybershock.com/#usenet):

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>From: SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug>
>Newsgroups: eternal-september.talk, alt.free.newsservers, alt.september
>Subject: Looming Groupocalypse : The Google Groupsspaggheddon Cometh!
>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 03:38:43 -0600
>Organization: sybershock.com Baggy Jeans Mafia
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>
> A Brain Candy Rant for Tin Hatters and Texters. (SyberShock!)
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Looming Groupocalypse : The Google Groupsspaggheddon Cometh!
> Tuesday, September 11088, 1993
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> List of Free Usenet Servers: https://sybershock.com/#usenet
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Usenet is dead.
> Usenet has always been dead.
> Usenet is dying.
> Usenet is always dying.
> Live with it.
> Long live Usenet!
> Google Groups has provided Usenet access for many years
> since Google acquired DejaNews 22 years ago, circa 2002.
> For some of these years Google has allowed a non-stop spam
> flooding, denial of service attack against the Usenet
> network. Google and other large Usenet providers have
> suborned a non-stop flood of zillions and bazillions of spam
> articles over the years, making newsgroups unusable for many
> end-users, causing much exodus from the Usenet network. Some
> believe that this was not incompetence or negligence, but
> intentional malice disguised as incompetence and negligence.
> Pretending to serve a network while undermining it in deed
> comports with the principle of "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish."
> Some are firmly convinced this is the real cause of the spam.
> A recent anti-spam campaign got a lot of people breathing
> down Google's neck. Rather than end the flooding and denial
> of service that it caused, Google has decided to stop
> peering Usenet feeds altogether. Some have opined that this
> is like amputating a leg to remedy a ingrown toenail. Google
> users will lose Usenet posting access without recourse.
> In February Google is pulling the plug. A large number of
> Google users will no longer be able to access Usenet. Those
> users will need to find some other way to access Usenet
> newsgroups. I like to think of it as 'unplugment day'.
> Some posters in the Usenet have been opining that it will
> be an apocalyptic event similar to Eternal September when
> hordes of AOL users were unleashed on Usenet decades ago.
> Since the influx of ISP users decimated politeness on the
> Usenet, it is said that September of 1993 never ended.
> Usenetizens still call this era the 'Eternal September.'
> Now a horde of Google Groups users will be potentially
> unleashed on the other Usenet service providers, especially
> the free providers. A swarm of new signups is expected. Some
> free Usenet providers are already dealing with a spike in
> new registrations.
> That cutoff date is February 22, 2024. After that time the
> Google users will no longer be able to access Usenet content.
> In Eternal September time the cutoff date will be the 11131st
> day of September, 1993.
> Since many Google users are clueless, some likely won't
> realize their Usenet access is sunset until the moment it is
> cut off. Then there is potential for a search panic as they
> try to discover why they cannot access Usenet groups via
> Google Groups. It has been jokingly called the Google Groups
> Apocalypse or the Google Groups Armageddon. Some users post
> Usenet articles counting down the days to the cutoff date.
> Some wordplay gives silly effect to these phrases:
> groupocalypse ==> group + apocalypse
> goopocalypse ==> google + apocalypse
> groupsspagheddon ==> groups + spaghetti + armageddon
> So now this ditty might make sense:
> The 'groupocalypse' looms.
> Google 'groupsspaggheddon' cometh.
> There shall be zoomer weeping,
> Karen wailing,
> and boomer gnashing of dentures.
> This is a spoof on verses from the books of Matthew and
> Revelation:
> "As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire;
> so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man
> shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of
> his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do
> iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there
> shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."
> "The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her,
> shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping
> and wailing ..."
> "Weeping and wailing" becomes: "Zoomer weeping, Karen
> wailing ..."
> "Gnashing of teeth" becomes: "Boomer gnashing of dentures."
> I suppose that the "merchants" could spoof for spammers. Yet
> I doubt any spammers were, "made rich by her."
> Since it is the end of yet another era for Usenet, it is
> 'apocalyptic' in a lampoon way, like the end of the Usenet
> world when the month of Eternal September began. It is a
> comical, cosmological holy day, an 'apocalypse' for which we
> know the exact date of its coming. It is bombastic burlesque,
> a rampant style of humor that runs riot on Usenet.
> The impending cessation of Google Usenet peering may cause a
> chaotic scramble to find Usenet access. Or it may go hardly
> noticed, an anti-apocalyptic whimper in the night. The Google
> Groupocalypse might signal a great shift, or it may mererly
> result in less spam. That is a change I can live with.
> Whether February 22, 2024 comes in like a lion or a lamb, that
> day will always be September 11131, 1993. And one thing is
> sure: If September is eternal, then Usenet is eternal, too.
[end quote]

see also:
https://news.novabbs.org/computers/thread.php?group=news.software.readers

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 by: Marco Moock - Thu, 15 Feb 2024 19:46 UTC

On 15.02.2024 um 11:06 Uhr Jan K. wrote:

> W Thu, 15 Feb 2024 16:39:32 +0100 (CET), D napisal:
>
> > google groups users may not realize the fundamental differences
> > between the autonomous/decentralized usenet, versus the
> > proprietary/centralized alphabet/google corporation; the isolation
> > of google groups from usenet provides incentive for multitudes of
> > google's users to seek free usenet news servers, apps, and
> > websites, that will help them to stay connected
>
> I'm a google groupie, where I had a free usernet news server.
> And I had a free lookup engine that went back to the dawn of time.
>
> Now what?
>
> Paganini stinks (as you must already know by now) because of its
> many crazy badword and random badurl and poison group filters.
>
> And a web browser is no longer the portal for posting to usernet
> groups.

rslight exists.
https://news.novabbs.org/rocksolid/index.php

> What free news server do you recommend most google groupies migrate
> to. And what free long-standing usernet lookup engine for do you
> recommend?

solani.org, eternal-september.org

As a reader, try Betterbird, Thunderbird, Epyrus, Claws Mail etc.

--
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to muell456@cartoonies.org

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 by: Sqwertz - Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:18 UTC

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 11:06:48 -0500, Jan K. wrote:

> W Thu, 15 Feb 2024 16:39:32 +0100 (CET), D napisal:
>
>> google groups users may not realize the fundamental differences between
>> the autonomous/decentralized usenet, versus the proprietary/centralized
>> alphabet/google corporation; the isolation of google groups from usenet
>> provides incentive for multitudes of google's users to seek free usenet
>> news servers, apps, and websites, that will help them to stay connected
>
> I'm a google groupie, where I had a free usernet news server.
> And I had a free lookup engine that went back to the dawn of time.
>
> Now what?
>
> Paganini stinks (as you must already know by now) because of its
> many crazy badword and random badurl and poison group filters.
>
> And a web browser is no longer the portal for posting to usernet groups.
>
> What free news server do you recommend most google groupies migrate to.
> And what free long-standing usernet lookup engine for do you recommend?

You're one of the people we'd wish would just fuck off from
"usernet".

Text access to usenet costs about $2/lifetime from providers like
blocknews.net.

-sw

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