I seem to remember disabling Store in Win10, I have since done the
upgrade to Win11 and would like to now be able to use Store, except
nothing I have tried gets it to work. I've tried reinstalling, Reset,
Repair, absolutely every fix I could find online. It appears as an app,
but if I click on it - it just flashes on screen briefly, then disappears.

A further issue is Windows Security, in the bottom RH corner of the
screen - it shows a yellow warning triangle. Hovering over it, it .
shows 'Action Recommended'. Clicking on it, like Store, it just flashes
a box up briefly.

On 14/05/2023 20:35, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> Clicking on it, like Store, it just flashes a box up briefly.

Likewise, Notepad. It just shows the loading, and nothing shows up. I've
tried uninstalling and reinstalling.

On 5/14/2023 3:35 PM, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> I seem to remember disabling Store in Win10, I have since done the upgrade to Win11 and would like to now be able to use Store, except nothing I have tried gets it to work. I've tried reinstalling, Reset, Repair, absolutely every fix I could find online. It appears as an app, but if I click on it - it just flashes on screen briefly, then disappears.
>
> A further issue is Windows Security, in the bottom RH corner of the screen - it shows a yellow warning triangle. Hovering over it, it . shows 'Action Recommended'. Clicking on it, like Store, it just flashes a box up briefly.

I hope you have a backup stashed away.

The thing about unstable soil, is there can be a
landslide and a mess, while you are trying to fix stuff.
Not all fix attempts end well. Sometimes, things end up
broken worse, from the repair attempts.

*******

Note that, since Patch Tuesday this month, some items
in Windows have been behaving strangely. But your trouble
likely started before Patch Tuesday. If the trouble only
started since Patch Tuesday materials were installed, my
assumption right now, is some changes have been made to some
security controls. My security settings have been changed,
and I can no longer (temporarily) disable "Real Time Protection" in Windows
Defender. The toggle button just slides back to active.

*******

You can get some idea of the leverage available to you,
in an article like this. In the past, "wsreset.exe" was
used for mere MSStore issues. If every Metro App is
malfunctioning, then whatever the Store uses for signing
checks, or some service, must be toast.

https://windowsreport.com/windows-store-closes-windows-10/

If you do Start : Run : Control , there should be
a Troubleshooting item, and there is an item for "Windows Store Apps".
This is likely to download and install them again. But
this is also part of normal operation of the computer
(refreshing stuff goes on in parallel with Windows Update
activity), so your materials have likely been refreshed
in the past too. This operation is not likely to fix anything.

The thing about Upgrade/Repair Install, is it does not absolutely
level the Registry. Lots of Registry info, mis-configured stuff,
may be preserved as a "convenience" for the user. The user
would be pissed, for example, if some advertising got turned
on again. You can expect an Upgrade install, to freshen System32 files,
maybe some drivers, refresh Store Apps by downloading new copies,
but anything configured in the Registry, might not get fixed.

*******

You can attempt to use eventvwr.msc to see what happened. If you
can get any sort of error number at all, that would help.

https://superuser.com/questions/495500/when-a-windows-store-app-crashes-is-there-a-way-to-see-why-it-crashed

Paul

On 14/05/2023 21:27, Paul wrote:
> You can attempt to use eventvwr.msc to see what happened. If you
> can get any sort of error number at all, that would help.

Camera app is also affected...

eventvwr > System, shows up errors perfectly matching each time any none
working app is called. The Source 'DistributedCOM' Event ID 10010, when
ever Store or camera clicked upon, though not for Notepad.

Does that provide any clues?

Thanks..

On 14/05/2023 22:29, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> On 14/05/2023 21:27, Paul wrote:
>> You can attempt to use eventvwr.msc to see what happened. If you
>> can get any sort of error number at all, that would help.
>
> Camera app is also affected...
>
> eventvwr > System, shows up errors perfectly matching each time any none
> working app is called. The Source 'DistributedCOM' Event ID 10010, when
> ever Store or camera clicked upon, though not for Notepad.
>
> Does that provide any clues?
>
> Thanks..

I have since run through all the suggested steps here -
https://windowsreport.com/event-id-10010/

All the setting were correct.

On 5/14/2023 4:17 PM, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> On 14/05/2023 20:35, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>> Clicking on it, like Store, it just flashes a box up briefly.
>
> Likewise, Notepad. It just shows the loading, and nothing shows up. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling.

services.msc
AppIDsvc "Application Identity" Manual Stopped <=== Used by AppLocker for verifying application identity
wuauserv "Windows Update" Automatic Started Might be more important

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
FilterAdministratorToken DWORD32 1 <=== I don't have this

Paul

On Sun, 14 May 2023 18:04:12 -0400, Paul wrote:
>
> On 5/14/2023 4:17 PM, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> > On 14/05/2023 20:35, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> >> Clicking on it, like Store, it just flashes a box up briefly.
> >
> > Likewise, Notepad. It just shows the loading, and nothing shows up. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling.
>
> services.msc
> AppIDsvc "Application Identity" Manual Stopped <=== Used by AppLocker for verifying application identity
> wuauserv "Windows Update" Automatic Started Might be more important
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
> FilterAdministratorToken DWORD32 1 <=== I don't have this

Bravo, Paul! It doesn't get said enough: We're really lucky to have
you, and your unselfish help.

In earlier days, I might have let myself in for the sort of problem
the OP reported. With Windows up through 8.1 I used to spend a lot of
time disabling everything that I didn't think was absolutely
necessary.

With Win 10 and 11, I've decided the path of least resistance is
never to disable Microsoft services or uninstall anything Microsoft.

I'll make registry edits to set preferences that should be in the GUI
but aren't, but that's as far as I'll go.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

On 5/14/2023 5:49 PM, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> On 14/05/2023 22:29, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>> On 14/05/2023 21:27, Paul wrote:
>>> You can attempt to use eventvwr.msc to see what happened. If you
>>> can get any sort of error number at all, that would help.
>>
>> Camera app is also affected...
>>
>> eventvwr > System, shows up errors perfectly matching each time any none working app is called. The Source 'DistributedCOM' Event ID 10010, when ever Store or camera clicked upon, though not for Notepad.
>>
>> Does that provide any clues?
>>
>> Thanks..
>
> I have since run through all the suggested steps here - https://windowsreport.com/event-id-10010/
>
> All the setting were correct.

There is an example of one of these, here.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/error-event-id-10010-distributedcom/598a7843-982c-4408-83cc-c51050401038

Log Name: System
Source: Microsoft-Windows-DistributedCOM
Date: 10/20/2013 3:10:42 PM
Event ID: 10010
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
Description: The server {03E64E17-B220-4052-9B9B-155F9CB8E016} <=========== this could be a CLSID in the Registry
did not register with DCOM within the required timeout.

That's basically a pointer to the "server" which is whining about this.
It could be that Win.Store , corresponds to whatever CLSID you're seeing.

While there's a lot of advertising in the page content here, you might
get something to work.

https://windowsreport.com/event-id-10010/

Normally, Function Discovery Resource Publication service is already running.
Both of the services beginning with the word "Function" should be running.
The FDRP does stuff like NetBIOS as far as I know, and helps with file sharing
(lists machine names, knows the IP address). But other services may also register
using the information it provides (printers maybe).

(services.msc)

I've rebooted my machine (yet again), and one of my symptoms has gone away.
It's a good thing I am "captain of my own destiny"...

Paul

On Sun, 14 May 2023 16:46:00 -0700, Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

>On Sun, 14 May 2023 18:04:12 -0400, Paul wrote:
>>
>> On 5/14/2023 4:17 PM, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>> > On 14/05/2023 20:35, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>> >> Clicking on it, like Store, it just flashes a box up briefly.
>> >
>> > Likewise, Notepad. It just shows the loading, and nothing shows up. I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling.
>>
>> services.msc
>> AppIDsvc "Application Identity" Manual Stopped <=== Used by AppLocker for verifying application identity
>> wuauserv "Windows Update" Automatic Started Might be more important
>>
>> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
>> FilterAdministratorToken DWORD32 1 <=== I don't have this
>
>Bravo, Paul! It doesn't get said enough: We're really lucky to have
>you, and your unselfish help.
>
>In earlier days, I might have let myself in for the sort of problem
>the OP reported. With Windows up through 8.1 I used to spend a lot of
>time disabling everything that I didn't think was absolutely
>necessary.
>
>With Win 10 and 11, I've decided the path of least resistance is
>never to disable Microsoft services or uninstall anything Microsoft.

I never consciously made that decision, but thinking about it, I've
also never disabled Microsoft services or uninstalled anything
Microsoft.

>
>I'll make registry edits to set preferences that should be in the GUI
>but aren't, but that's as far as I'll go.

On 14/05/2023 20:35, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> I seem to remember disabling Store in Win10, I have since done the
> upgrade to Win11 and would like to now be able to use Store, except
> nothing I have tried gets it to work. I've tried reinstalling, Reset,
> Repair, absolutely every fix I could find online. It appears as an app,
> but if I click on it - it just flashes on screen briefly, then disappears.
>
> A further issue is Windows Security, in the bottom RH corner of the
> screen - it shows a yellow warning triangle. Hovering over it, it .
> shows 'Action Recommended'. Clicking on it, like Store, it just flashes
> a box up briefly.

Bite the bullet, wipe the drive/partition & re-install Windows.
You will spend more time & effort on trying to correct problems than you
will on installing Windows on a blank drive.
Make sure you have all your passwords, log on details & possibly
programme installers before you start.

--
Regards
wasbit

On 15/05/2023 03:32, Paul wrote:
> https://windowsreport.com/event-id-10010/

That's basically the same as the link I posted, and all seemed to check
out correct. No progress, but I am very grateful for your help anyway..

On 5/15/2023 5:53 AM, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> On 15/05/2023 03:32, Paul wrote:
>> https://windowsreport.com/event-id-10010/
>
> That's basically the same as the link I posted, and all seemed to check out correct. No progress, but I am very grateful for your help anyway..

In Services.msc , is "Windows Defender Firewall" running ?

It's possible a third-party AV could interfere in some way with that.

Mine is running, and my Apps work.

Paul

On 5/15/2023 8:21 AM, Paul wrote:
> On 5/15/2023 5:53 AM, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
>> On 15/05/2023 03:32, Paul wrote:
>>> https://windowsreport.com/event-id-10010/
>>
>> That's basically the same as the link I posted, and all seemed to check out correct. No progress, but I am very grateful for your help anyway..
>
> In Services.msc , is "Windows Defender Firewall" running ?
>
> It's possible a third-party AV could interfere in some way with that.
>
> Mine is running, and my Apps work.
>
>    Paul
>

Another service that is necessary is "Client License Service (Clipsvc)"
which can gate the Windows Store running.

Paul

Harry Bloomfield Esq <a@harrym1byt.plus.com> wrote:
> I seem to remember disabling Store in Win10, I have since done the
> upgrade to Win11 and would like to now be able to use Store, except
> nothing I have tried gets it to work. I've tried reinstalling, Reset,
> Repair, absolutely every fix I could find online. It appears as an app,
> but if I click on it - it just flashes on screen briefly, then disappears.
>
> A further issue is Windows Security, in the bottom RH corner of the
> screen - it shows a yellow warning triangle. Hovering over it, it .
> shows 'Action Recommended'. Clicking on it, like Store, it just flashes
> a box up briefly.

You already got some error message to work on/with, so this may not
give additional information, but just to be sure:

If the 'Snipping Tool' still works [1], you can use that to make a
video recording of the flasing screen/box and see if that gives any
additional information.

I used the 'Snipping Tool' to catch a short popup error from File
History. That was very handy.

[1] In Windows 11, Snipping Tool' is an 'app' (not a normal Windows
program (which lives in C:\Program Files)), so since the Microsoft Store
app and the Windows Security part of the Settings app are not working,
maybe the Snipping Tool app isn't either.

On 15/05/2023 13:21, Paul wrote:
> In Services.msc , is "Windows Defender Firewall" running ?

It's running and automatic.

>
> It's possible a third-party AV could interfere in some way with that.

I have never had a third-party AV installed on this system.

On 15/05/2023 13:38, Paul wrote:
> Another service that is necessary is "Client License Service (Clipsvc)"
> which can gate the Windows Store running.

That is listed as manual (trigger start) - is that correct?

On 15/05/2023 14:58, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> [1] In Windows 11, Snipping Tool' is an 'app' (not a normal Windows
> program (which lives in C:\Program Files)), so since the Microsoft Store
> app and the Windows Security part of the Settings app are not working,
> maybe the Snipping Tool app isn't either.

No, that doesn't show up either.

On 5/15/2023 1:20 PM, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
> On 15/05/2023 13:38, Paul wrote:
>> Another service that is necessary is "Client License Service (Clipsvc)"
>> which can gate the Windows Store running.
>
> That is listed as manual (trigger start) - is that correct?

Yes. It's manual start, and mine is constantly running.

Paul

On 15/05/2023 22:34, Paul wrote:
> Yes. It's manual start, and mine is constantly running.

My thanks again Paul, and it is now sorted...

With a Repair install.

When I originally tried the Win10 to Win11 upgrade, it complained 'we
couldn't update the system partition'. I some how managed to wangle it
to install, cannot remember how now.

Trying the Repair today, it reported the same problem. I tried to expand
the EFI partition, but between it, and space I could make by shrinking
the main partition, was my M2 SSD drive - so that didn't work.

I then came across a suggestion to delete the Fonts folder, on the EFI
partition, then the Repair install went ahead.

All the faulty Microsoft items are now fully working, including Store.

On 5/16/2023 7:51 AM, ...winston wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>>
>> I've rebooted my machine (yet again), and one of my symptoms has gone away.
>> It's a good thing I am "captain of my own destiny"...
>>
>>     Paul
>>
>
> Does being 'Captain' indicate the missing strawberries were found?
>
>
> Or in a more simple analysis - Did the reboot(not Fast Startup disablement<g>) resolve the temporary ability to disable Real Time Protection?
>

The reboot, followed by a need to work the control, discovered
the button could now be moved properly. I don't know what was
in-flight under the hood, and do not have a backup or rollback
to test with. It was just acting very weird, and I'd already
done my Patch Tuesday ceremonies.

Paul

Paul wrote:
> On 5/16/2023 7:51 AM, ...winston wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>>
>>> I've rebooted my machine (yet again), and one of my symptoms has gone
>>> away.
>>> It's a good thing I am "captain of my own destiny"...
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>>
>>
>> Does being 'Captain' indicate the missing strawberries were found?
>>
>>
>> Or in a more simple analysis - Did the reboot(not Fast Startup
>> disablement<g>) resolve the temporary ability to disable Real Time
>> Protection?
>>
>
> The reboot, followed by a need to work the control, discovered
> the button could now be moved properly. I don't know what was
> in-flight under the hood, and do not have a backup or rollback
> to test with. It was just acting very weird, and I'd already
> done my Patch Tuesday ceremonies.
>
>    Paul
>
There were reports, not recent, low incident and somewhat obscure, iirc
during internal testing of Win11 that suspected drivers(outdated or
incompatible) and image corruption for Real Time protection toggle being
protected from being turned off. Those incidents were primarily in both
VM's and non-VM installs with un-released Insider Builds. For the
latter, image corruption was repairable by the usual route(DISM).

--
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

Paul wrote:
> and I'd already
> done my Patch Tuesday ceremonies.
>
>    Paul
>

p.s.

w/r to Patch Tuesday(May updates)
Update your boot or Iso media after applying the May updates.
Update your backup images
- necessary due to staged implementation(May, June, 1st QTR 2024) of
Secure Boot mitigation/revocations

See CVE-2023-24932 and KB5025885

Windows 11 Software Download site for MCT(for creating USB/DVD/ISO) and
the optional ISO file option all provide current media with Windows
update released on May 9(i.e. May's Patch Tuesday updates)

Once the revocations for Secure Boot mitigation are pushed/deployed,
media and images created earlier than the current available(with the May
updates) will no longer function.

--
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

....winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> > and I'd already
> > done my Patch Tuesday ceremonies.
> >
> >    Paul
> >
>
> p.s.
>
> w/r to Patch Tuesday(May updates)
> Update your boot or Iso media after applying the May updates.
> Update your backup images
> - necessary due to staged implementation(May, June, 1st QTR 2024) of
> Secure Boot mitigation/revocations
>
> See CVE-2023-24932 and KB5025885
>
> Windows 11 Software Download site for MCT(for creating USB/DVD/ISO) and
> the optional ISO file option all provide current media with Windows
> update released on May 9(i.e. May's Patch Tuesday updates)
>
> Once the revocations for Secure Boot mitigation are pushed/deployed,
> media and images created earlier than the current available(with the May
> updates) will no longer function.

<rewind_repeat>

> Update your backup images

</rewind_repeat>

"backup images" like those made by Macrium Reflect (Free), etc.?

If so, backup images of *which* partition(s)? C: or the non-C:
partitions or both? (I have only C:, no other partitions with drive
letters.)

Frank Slootweg wrote:
> ...winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>> and I'd already
>>> done my Patch Tuesday ceremonies.
>>>
>>>    Paul
>>>
>>
>> p.s.
>>
>> w/r to Patch Tuesday(May updates)
>> Update your boot or Iso media after applying the May updates.
>> Update your backup images
>> - necessary due to staged implementation(May, June, 1st QTR 2024) of
>> Secure Boot mitigation/revocations
>>
>> See CVE-2023-24932 and KB5025885
>>
>> Windows 11 Software Download site for MCT(for creating USB/DVD/ISO) and
>> the optional ISO file option all provide current media with Windows
>> update released on May 9(i.e. May's Patch Tuesday updates)
>>
>> Once the revocations for Secure Boot mitigation are pushed/deployed,
>> media and images created earlier than the current available(with the May
>> updates) will no longer function.
>
> <rewind_repeat>
>
>> Update your backup images
>
> </rewind_repeat>
>
> "backup images" like those made by Macrium Reflect (Free), etc.?
>
> If so, backup images of *which* partition(s)? C: or the non-C:
> partitions or both? (I have only C:, no other partitions with drive
> letters.)
>

Yes, images created prior to installing the May 2023 Update on Windows
11(10) 22H2, 21H2 need to be updated.

Which partition?
The general rule when backing up Win11/Win10 on UEFI systems with GPT
created partitions:
- Image should contain the Four(4) GPT partitions(System[aka EFI],
MSR, Windows, Recovery)

All my devices(Win11 Pro 22H2 and Win10 Pro 22H2) use Macrium Reflect
and Acronis 2020(perpetual) for image creation.
e.g. when loading Macrium on a UEFI GPT device, all 4 of the partitions
are shown in the Macrium UI - thus I image all four(4).

The reason for all 4, especially for this specific case, is once the
revocations are in-place(3rd phase/stage) the final impact will affect
3 partitions(System(EFI), Windows, and Recovery)
- At this time, only the System and Windows is affected

--
....w¡ñ§±¤ñ

....winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > ...winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Paul wrote:
> >>> and I'd already
> >>> done my Patch Tuesday ceremonies.
> >>>
> >>>    Paul
> >>>
> >>
> >> p.s.
> >>
> >> w/r to Patch Tuesday(May updates)
> >> Update your boot or Iso media after applying the May updates.
> >> Update your backup images
> >> - necessary due to staged implementation(May, June, 1st QTR 2024) of
> >> Secure Boot mitigation/revocations
> >>
> >> See CVE-2023-24932 and KB5025885
> >>
> >> Windows 11 Software Download site for MCT(for creating USB/DVD/ISO) and
> >> the optional ISO file option all provide current media with Windows
> >> update released on May 9(i.e. May's Patch Tuesday updates)
> >>
> >> Once the revocations for Secure Boot mitigation are pushed/deployed,
> >> media and images created earlier than the current available(with the May
> >> updates) will no longer function.
> >
> > <rewind_repeat>
> >
> >> Update your backup images
> >
> > </rewind_repeat>
> >
> > "backup images" like those made by Macrium Reflect (Free), etc.?
> >
> > If so, backup images of *which* partition(s)? C: or the non-C:
> > partitions or both? (I have only C:, no other partitions with drive
> > letters.)
> >
>
> Yes, images created prior to installing the May 2023 Update on Windows
> 11(10) 22H2, 21H2 need to be updated.
>
> Which partition?
> The general rule when backing up Win11/Win10 on UEFI systems with GPT
> created partitions:
> - Image should contain the Four(4) GPT partitions(System[aka EFI],
> MSR, Windows, Recovery)
>
> All my devices(Win11 Pro 22H2 and Win10 Pro 22H2) use Macrium Reflect
> and Acronis 2020(perpetual) for image creation.
> e.g. when loading Macrium on a UEFI GPT device, all 4 of the partitions
> are shown in the Macrium UI - thus I image all four(4).
>
> The reason for all 4, especially for this specific case, is once the
> revocations are in-place(3rd phase/stage) the final impact will affect
> 3 partitions(System(EFI), Windows, and Recovery)
> - At this time, only the System and Windows is affected

Thanks!

I backed up the three non-C: partitions (System, MSR and Recovery)
only once, under the assumption they wouldn't change over time.

Apparently that assumption was wrong, so I will back them up again and
at the next Full image backup, I will backup all four and keep it that
way.

BTW, my 'Recovery' partition - partition 4, the last one - has no
label (like 'Recovery'). Is that normal? (Partition 1 has label 'SYSTEM'
(uppercase), partition 2 has no label because it's 'Unformatted' and
Partition 3 has label 'Windows'.)