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From: address@is.invalid (LucLan)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Hello
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 by: LucLan - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:47 UTC

Hello,

I have a question, how to set tin (or other reader) not to send the User
agent?

Thank you.

Re: Hello

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From: mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de (Marco Moock)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Hello
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 21:43:17 +0100
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 by: Marco Moock - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:43 UTC

On 20.02.2024 um 21:47 Uhr LucLan wrote:

> I have a question, how to set tin (or other reader) not to send the
> User agent?

In Thunderbird:

mailnews.headers.sendUserAgent

--
kind regards
Marco

Send spam to muell456@cartoonies.org

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From: address@is.invalid (LucLan)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Hello
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 by: LucLan - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:47 UTC

On 20.02.2024 22:43, Marco Moock wrote:
> On 20.02.2024 um 21:47 Uhr LucLan wrote:
>
>> I have a question, how to set tin (or other reader) not to send the
>> User agent?
>
> In Thunderbird:
>
> mailnews.headers.sendUserAgent
>

Thank you!

Re: Hello

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From: not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Subject: Re: Hello
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 by: Computer Nerd Kev - Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:54 UTC

LucLan <address@is.invalid> wrote:
> I have a question, how to set tin (or other reader) not to send the User
> agent?

Put/change "advertising=OFF" in ~/.tin/tinrc, or via the
configuration menu. Or in ~/.tin/attributes to apply settings only
for certain groups.

--
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Subject: Re: Hello
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 by: LucLan - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 07:17 UTC

On 20.02.2024 22:54, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> LucLan <address@is.invalid> wrote:
>> I have a question, how to set tin (or other reader) not to send the User
>> agent?
>
> Put/change "advertising=OFF" in ~/.tin/tinrc, or via the
> configuration menu. Or in ~/.tin/attributes to apply settings only
> for certain groups.
>

Thank you.

Re: Hello

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 by: LucLan - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 08:24 UTC

On 20.02.2024 22:54, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> LucLan <address@is.invalid> wrote:
>> I have a question, how to set tin (or other reader) not to send the User
>> agent?
>
> Put/change "advertising=OFF" in ~/.tin/tinrc, or via the
> configuration menu. Or in ~/.tin/attributes to apply settings only
> for certain groups.
>

I have another question, is 'tin' capable to connect to a tls server
(nntps port 563)?

I tried to add port to ~/.tin/newsrctable
also I tried to add -p 563 to the command line...

the result is it do not connect, and it seems that 'tin' can not handle
ssl/tls

Thank you.

Re: Hello

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From: dave@dave123royal.com (Dave Royal)
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Subject: Re: Hello
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 by: Dave Royal - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 09:09 UTC

LucLan <address@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

> On 20.02.2024 22:54, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>
> I have another question, is 'tin' capable to connect to a tls server
> (nntps port 563)?
>
> I tried to add port to ~/.tin/newsrctable
> also I tried to add -p 563 to the command line...
>
> the result is it do not connect, and it seems that 'tin' can not handle
> ssl/tls
>
> Thank you.
>

It has a setting:
tls_ca_cert_file
The name of file containing all trusted CA certificates used for
NNTPS (RFC8143) connections. If left empty the system default
will be used.
<http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=5&topic=tin>
--
Remove numerics from my email address.

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 by: LucLan - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:19 UTC

On 21.02.2024 11:09, Dave Royal wrote:
> LucLan <address@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>
>> On 20.02.2024 22:54, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>
>> I have another question, is 'tin' capable to connect to a tls server
>> (nntps port 563)?
>>
>> I tried to add port to ~/.tin/newsrctable
>> also I tried to add -p 563 to the command line...
>>
>> the result is it do not connect, and it seems that 'tin' can not handle
>> ssl/tls
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>
> It has a setting:
> tls_ca_cert_file
> The name of file containing all trusted CA certificates used for
> NNTPS (RFC8143) connections. If left empty the system default
> will be used.
> <http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=5&topic=tin>

tls_ca_cert_file is not present in ~/tin/tinrc

if I add it manually, after first run of tin, the parameter is deleted
by the application.

I use tin 2.6.3, installed from AUR (arch)

something is fishy ...

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 by: Dave Royal - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:39 UTC

LucLan <address@is.invalid> Wrote in message:

> On 21.02.2024 11:09, Dave Royal wrote:
>> LucLan <address@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>
>>> On 20.02.2024 22:54, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>
>>> I have another question, is 'tin' capable to connect to a tls server
>>> (nntps port 563)?
>>>
>>> I tried to add port to ~/.tin/newsrctable
>>> also I tried to add -p 563 to the command line...
>>>
>>> the result is it do not connect, and it seems that 'tin' can not handle
>>> ssl/tls
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>
>> It has a setting:
>> tls_ca_cert_file
>> The name of file containing all trusted CA certificates used for
>> NNTPS (RFC8143) connections. If left empty the system default
>> will be used.
>> <http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=5&topic=tin>
>
> tls_ca_cert_file is not present in ~/tin/tinrc
>
> if I add it manually, after first run of tin, the parameter is deleted
> by the application.
>
> I use tin 2.6.3, installed from AUR (arch)
>
> something is fishy ...

I don't have in in tinrc either. But I haven't used secure nntp
since secnews.netscape. But it's evidence that tin does (should,
can, did) support tls. What nntps server are you trying to
connect to?
--
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 by: LucLan - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:43 UTC

On 21.02.2024 12:19, LucLan wrote:
> On 21.02.2024 11:09, Dave Royal wrote:
>> LucLan <address@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>
>>> On 20.02.2024 22:54, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>
>>> I have another question, is 'tin' capable to connect to a tls server
>>> (nntps port 563)?
>>>
>>> I tried to add port to ~/.tin/newsrctable
>>> also I tried to add -p 563 to the command line...
>>>
>>> the result is it do not connect, and it seems that 'tin' can not handle
>>> ssl/tls
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>
>> It has a setting:
>> tls_ca_cert_file
>> The name of file containing all trusted CA certificates used for
>>   NNTPS (RFC8143) connections. If left empty the system default
>>   will be used.
>> <http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=5&topic=tin>
>
> tls_ca_cert_file is not present in ~/tin/tinrc
>
> if I add it manually, after first run of tin, the parameter is deleted
> by the application.
>
> I use tin 2.6.3, installed from AUR (arch)
>
> something is fishy ...

'--with-nntps' is missing from PKGBUILD

mystery solved :-/

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 by: LucLan - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:45 UTC

On 21.02.2024 12:39, Dave Royal wrote:
> LucLan <address@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>
>> On 21.02.2024 11:09, Dave Royal wrote:
>>> LucLan <address@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>
>>>> On 20.02.2024 22:54, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have another question, is 'tin' capable to connect to a tls server
>>>> (nntps port 563)?
>>>>
>>>> I tried to add port to ~/.tin/newsrctable
>>>> also I tried to add -p 563 to the command line...
>>>>
>>>> the result is it do not connect, and it seems that 'tin' can not handle
>>>> ssl/tls
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It has a setting:
>>> tls_ca_cert_file
>>> The name of file containing all trusted CA certificates used for
>>> NNTPS (RFC8143) connections. If left empty the system default
>>> will be used.
>>> <http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=5&topic=tin>
>>
>> tls_ca_cert_file is not present in ~/tin/tinrc
>>
>> if I add it manually, after first run of tin, the parameter is deleted
>> by the application.
>>
>> I use tin 2.6.3, installed from AUR (arch)
>>
>> something is fishy ...
>
> I don't have in in tinrc either. But I haven't used secure nntp
> since secnews.netscape. But it's evidence that tin does (should,
> can, did) support tls. What nntps server are you trying to
> connect to?

https://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo

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 by: LucLan - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:55 UTC

On 21.02.2024 12:39, Dave Royal wrote:
> LucLan <address@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>
>> On 21.02.2024 11:09, Dave Royal wrote:
>>> LucLan <address@is.invalid> Wrote in message:
>>>
>>>> On 20.02.2024 22:54, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have another question, is 'tin' capable to connect to a tls server
>>>> (nntps port 563)?
>>>>
>>>> I tried to add port to ~/.tin/newsrctable
>>>> also I tried to add -p 563 to the command line...
>>>>
>>>> the result is it do not connect, and it seems that 'tin' can not handle
>>>> ssl/tls
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It has a setting:
>>> tls_ca_cert_file
>>> The name of file containing all trusted CA certificates used for
>>> NNTPS (RFC8143) connections. If left empty the system default
>>> will be used.
>>> <http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=5&topic=tin>
>>
>> tls_ca_cert_file is not present in ~/tin/tinrc
>>
>> if I add it manually, after first run of tin, the parameter is deleted
>> by the application.
>>
>> I use tin 2.6.3, installed from AUR (arch)
>>
>> something is fishy ...
>
> I don't have in in tinrc either. But I haven't used secure nntp
> since secnews.netscape. But it's evidence that tin does (should,
> can, did) support tls. What nntps server are you trying to
> connect to?

I added --with-nntps to PKGBUILD file.
recompile the AUR package, and reinstall

added local CA certs to tls_ca_cert_file parameter

and start the application with -T parameter.

NNTPS is alive :)

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 by: Computer Nerd Kev - Wed, 21 Feb 2024 20:43 UTC

LucLan <address@is.invalid> wrote:
> On 21.02.2024 12:19, LucLan wrote:
>> On 21.02.2024 11:09, Dave Royal wrote:
>>> It has a setting:
>>> tls_ca_cert_file
>>> The name of file containing all trusted CA certificates used for
>>> NNTPS (RFC8143) connections. If left empty the system default
>>> will be used.
>>> <http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=5&topic=tin>
>>
>> tls_ca_cert_file is not present in ~/tin/tinrc
>>
>> if I add it manually, after first run of tin, the parameter is deleted
>> by the application.
>>
>> I use tin 2.6.3, installed from AUR (arch)
>>
>> something is fishy ...
>
> '--with-nntps' is missing from PKGBUILD
>
> mystery solved :-/

NNTPS support has only been in Tin for the last couple of versions.
I'm guessing that the AUR package maintainer didn't notice that the
new option to enable it was available.

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