in TB, can i see old posts (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?

How can i do that? --- e.g. for Sci.Lang ?

HenHanna wrote:
>
> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>
>                  How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?

It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
retention period, usually just a month or so by default.
I have an idea that should work.
Unsubscribe and resubscribe. That should get you everything available.
Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:

> HenHanna wrote:
>>
>> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>>
>>                  How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?

> It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
> There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
> retention period, usually just a month or so by default.

> I have an idea that should work.
> Unsubscribe and resubscribe. That should get you everything available.

> Ed

my news-server must be ES (Eternal-Sept)

thank you... i'll try that.

pls visit: https://www.novabbs.com/tech/thread.php?group=sci.lang

2 topics i'm interested in right now are:

1. reduplication (in Japanese) --- Japanese rich in non-taste adjectives for food

2. Re: (The Tyger by Wm.Blake)-- [Authentic] pronunciation (recording)-- EYE rhyming with Symmetry

On 2/22/2024 12:28 PM, HenHanna wrote:
> Ed Cryer wrote:
>
>> HenHanna wrote:
>>>
>>> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>>>
>>>                   How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?
>
>
>> It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
>> There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
>> retention period, usually just a month or so by default.
>
>> I have an idea that should work.
>> Unsubscribe and resubscribe. That should get you everything available.
>
>> Ed
>
>
>            my news-server  must be ES (Eternal-Sept)

Not according to your headers here.

--
Stand With Israel!

On 22.02.24 19:28, HenHanna wrote:
> my news-server must be ES (Eternal-Sept)

You are using the spam-server
Injection-Info: i2pn2.org

--
"Manus manum lavat."

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:42:13 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> On 22.02.24 19:28, HenHanna wrote:
>> my news-server must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>
> You are using the spam-server
> Injection-Info: i2pn2.org

My server is "the spam server"?

How do you figure that? I'm one of the admins providing NoCeM messages to
remove spam.

sticks wrote:
> On 2/22/2024 12:28 PM, HenHanna wrote:
>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>>> HenHanna wrote:
>>>>
>>>> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>>>>
>>>>                   How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?
>>
>>
>>> It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
>>> There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
>>> retention period, usually just a month or so by default.
>>
>>> I have an idea that should work.
>>> Unsubscribe and resubscribe. That should get you everything available.
>>
>>> Ed
>>
>>
>>             my news-server  must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>
> Not according to your headers here.
>
>
>
He's using ES. If you see differently, let us know.
Ed

On 2/22/2024 1:03 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
> sticks wrote:
>> On 2/22/2024 12:28 PM, HenHanna wrote:
>>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>
>>>> HenHanna wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>>>>>
>>>>>                   How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
>>>> There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
>>>> retention period, usually just a month or so by default.
>>>
>>>> I have an idea that should work.
>>>> Unsubscribe and resubscribe. That should get you everything available.
>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>             my news-server  must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>>
>> Not according to your headers here.
>>
>>
>>
>
> He's using ES. If you see differently, let us know.

This is the post I replied to

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From: HenHanna@gmail.com (HenHanna)
Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: in TB, old posts (from 3 or 4 years ago)
=?UTF-8?B?PyAtLSBlLmcuIGZv?=
=?UTF-8?B?ciBTY2kuTGFuZyA/?=
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:28:30 +0000
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--
Stand With Israel!

Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> On 22.02.24 19:28, HenHanna wrote:
>> my news-server must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>
> You are using the spam-server
> Injection-Info: i2pn2.org
>
>

Try a search for "A noiseless patient Spider" and then report back; but
not like some gladiator into the amphitheatre, nor in the words of Ovid.

Ed

sticks wrote:
> On 2/22/2024 1:03 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> sticks wrote:
>>> On 2/22/2024 12:28 PM, HenHanna wrote:
>>>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> HenHanna wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
>>>>> There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
>>>>> retention period, usually just a month or so by default.
>>>>
>>>>> I have an idea that should work.
>>>>> Unsubscribe and resubscribe. That should get you everything available.
>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>             my news-server  must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>>>
>>> Not according to your headers here.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> He's using ES. If you see differently, let us know.
>
> This is the post I replied to
>
>
> Path:
> eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
> From: HenHanna@gmail.com (HenHanna)
> Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird,news.software.readers
> Subject: Re: in TB, old posts (from 3 or 4 years ago)
> =?UTF-8?B?PyAtLSBlLmcuIGZv?=
>  =?UTF-8?B?ciBTY2kuTGFuZyA/?=
> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:28:30 +0000
> Organization: novaBBS
> Message-ID: <cf056106d939c52e133ff0a841b5b656@www.novabbs.com>
> References: <ur7vve$3vn47$4@dont-email.me> <ur81jh$b52$1@dont-email.me>
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0
> Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.comp.software.thunderbird:12044
> news.software.readers:35463
>
>
What is "Rocksolid Light"? Especially in this TB group?
Ed

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:29:11 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:

> sticks wrote:
>> On 2/22/2024 1:03 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> sticks wrote:
>>>> On 2/22/2024 12:28 PM, HenHanna wrote:
>>>>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HenHanna wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
>>>>>> There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
>>>>>> retention period, usually just a month or so by default.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an idea that should work.
>>>>>> Unsubscribe and resubscribe. That should get you everything available.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             my news-server  must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>>>>
>>>> Not according to your headers here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> He's using ES. If you see differently, let us know.
>>
>> This is the post I replied to
>>
>>
>> Path:
>> eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
>> From: HenHanna@gmail.com (HenHanna)
>> Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird,news.software.readers
>> Subject: Re: in TB, old posts (from 3 or 4 years ago)
>> =?UTF-8?B?PyAtLSBlLmcuIGZv?=
>>  =?UTF-8?B?ciBTY2kuTGFuZyA/?=
>> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:28:30 +0000
>> Organization: novaBBS
>> Message-ID: <cf056106d939c52e133ff0a841b5b656@www.novabbs.com>
>> References: <ur7vve$3vn47$4@dont-email.me> <ur81jh$b52$1@dont-email.me>
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>> Injection-Info: i2pn2.org;
>>     logging-data="3751454"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org";
>>     posting-account="t+lO0yBNO1zGxasPvGSZV1BRu71QKx+JE37DnW+83jQ";
>> User-Agent: Rocksolid Light
>> X-Rslight-Site:
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>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0
>> Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.comp.software.thunderbird:12044
>> news.software.readers:35463
>>
>>
>
> What is "Rocksolid Light"? Especially in this TB group?

Rocksolid Light is the software for the web interface here:
https://www.novabbs.com/computers/thread.php?group=news.software.readers

This thread is also in news.software.readers, not just TB group.

On 22.02.24 20:29, Ed Cryer wrote:
> sticks wrote:
>> On 2/22/2024 1:03 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>>> sticks wrote:
>>>> On 2/22/2024 12:28 PM, HenHanna wrote:
>>>>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> HenHanna wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
>>>>>> There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
>>>>>> retention period, usually just a month or so by default.
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an idea that should work.
>>>>>> Unsubscribe and resubscribe. That should get you everything available.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             my news-server  must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>>>>
>>>> Not according to your headers here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> He's using ES. If you see differently, let us know.
>>
>> This is the post I replied to
>>
>>
>> Path:
>> eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
>> From: HenHanna@gmail.com (HenHanna)
>> Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.thunderbird,news.software.readers
>> Subject: Re: in TB, old posts (from 3 or 4 years ago)
>> =?UTF-8?B?PyAtLSBlLmcuIGZv?=
>>  =?UTF-8?B?ciBTY2kuTGFuZyA/?=
>> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 18:28:30 +0000
>> Organization: novaBBS
>> Message-ID: <cf056106d939c52e133ff0a841b5b656@www.novabbs.com>
>> References: <ur7vve$3vn47$4@dont-email.me> <ur81jh$b52$1@dont-email.me>
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>> Injection-Info: i2pn2.org;
>>     logging-data="3751454"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org";
>>     posting-account="t+lO0yBNO1zGxasPvGSZV1BRu71QKx+JE37DnW+83jQ";
>> User-Agent: Rocksolid Light
>> X-Rslight-Site:
>> $2y$10$cYQYw/AuUaXswlcMb4DXiuPgIeOvDHgSmz8xUkMd.0aLJBObf1J7S
>> X-Rslight-Posting-User: 5a1f1f09909a70d7ae18ae9af00e018f83ece577
>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0
>> Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.comp.software.thunderbird:12044
>> news.software.readers:35463
>>
>>
>
> What is "Rocksolid Light"? Especially in this TB group?

Different story. You try to change the subject.

--
"Manus manum lavat."

On 22.02.24 19:52, Retro Guy wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:42:13 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> On 22.02.24 19:28, HenHanna wrote:
>>> my news-server must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>>
>> You are using the spam-server
>> Injection-Info: i2pn2.org
>
> My server is "the spam server"?

Yes it is. A lot of Trolls love your server.
The hard criteria for a spam- or Troll-servers are those who do not
require a login/account.

--
"Manus manum lavat."

On 22.02.24 20:09, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 22.02.24 19:28, HenHanna wrote:
>>> my news-server must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>>
>> You are using the spam-server
>> Injection-Info: i2pn2.org
>>
>>
>
> Try a search for "A noiseless patient Spider" and then report back; but
> not like some gladiator into the amphitheatre, nor in the words of Ovid.

The relevant information is the Injection-Info. Learn to read headers.

--
"Manus manum lavat."

On 22.02.24 20:09, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> On 22.02.24 19:28, HenHanna wrote:
>>> my news-server must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>>
>> You are using the spam-server
>> Injection-Info: i2pn2.org
>>
>>
>
> Try a search for "A noiseless patient Spider" and then report back; but
> not like some gladiator into the amphitheatre, nor in the words of Ovid.

Path:
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From: HenHanna@gmail.com (HenHanna)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.comp.software.thunderbird
Subject: Re: both NovaBBS and TB makes reading and posting so easy and
pleasant
that...
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:00:00 +0000
Organization: novaBBS
Message-ID: <5ae8f58e6a02dffb2a58841441e268a4@www.novabbs.com>
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Injection-Info: i2pn2.org;

--
"Manus manum lavat."

On 2024-02-22 19:42, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> On 22.02.24 19:28, HenHanna wrote:
>> my news-server must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>
> You are using the spam-server
> Injection-Info: i2pn2.org

On the second post, yes. On the first post, no.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:20:53 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> On 22.02.24 19:52, Retro Guy wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:42:13 +0100, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>
>>> On 22.02.24 19:28, HenHanna wrote:
>>>> my news-server must be ES (Eternal-Sept)
>>>
>>> You are using the spam-server
>>> Injection-Info: i2pn2.org
>>
>> My server is "the spam server"?
>
> Yes it is. A lot of Trolls love your server.
> The hard criteria for a spam- or Troll-servers are those who do not
> require a login/account.

My sites and servers require registration and email verification to post.

If someone finds spam from my servers they should let me know, but it's not
happening any more than from other servers.

Just because you can read articles without an account does not mean you can
post.

Op 22-2-2024 om 18:51 schreef Ed Cryer:
> HenHanna wrote:
>>
>> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>>
>>                   How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?
>
>
> It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
> There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
> retention period, usually just a month or so by default.

Not true.
That depends on the newsserver you are using.
My Thunderbird gives all messages that the newsserver carry,
At the gmane/gwene newsservers in some groups there are messages from 2005.

Eternal-September has different retention times for different newsgroups.
Could be some months or many years.

Rink

Rink wrote:
> Op 22-2-2024 om 18:51 schreef Ed Cryer:
>> HenHanna wrote:
>>>
>>> in TB, can i see old posts     (from, say, 3 or 4 years ago) ?
>>>
>>>                   How can i do that?   --- e.g.  for  Sci.Lang ?
>>
>>
>> It depends entirely on whether or not your news-server retains them.
>> There is also another factor. Within TB each newsgroup has a local
>> retention period, usually just a month or so by default.
>
> Not true.
> That depends on the newsserver you are using.
> My Thunderbird gives all messages that the newsserver carry,
> At the gmane/gwene newsservers in some groups there are messages from 2005.
>
> Eternal-September has different retention times for different newsgroups.
> Could be some months or many years.
>
> Rink
How long have you been using TB?
Take a look into Account Settings/ Synchronization and Storage. The
default setting is 30 days retention.
When you first download for a group, you'll get the option to acquire
all messages available. Thereafter TB will do housekeeping on them.
Ed