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* pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?Alisha Stutz
+* Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?g00r00
|`* pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?Mike Fenton
| `* Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?Alisha Stutz
|  `* Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?g00r00
|   +* pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?Mike Fenton
|   |`* Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?g00r00
|   | `- pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?Mike Fenton
|   `* Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?Alisha Stutz
|    `- Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?g00r00
`* Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?g00r00
 `* pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?Alisha Stutz
  +* Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?Al DeRosa
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  | `- Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?Al DeRosa
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2023 07:32:34 +1300
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 by: Alisha Stutz - Sat, 7 Jan 2023 18:32 UTC

Hello g00r00!

Replying to a msg dated 08 Jan 23 00:10, from you to me.

yes i see it the new P64 Version, i will start tomorrow with the Test.

But i see that TELNET (mys112a48_l64.rar 2023-01-07 23:09 1.0M )
is actual not working in the latest A48 Version from today/this night.

It close the connection imidiatly with "Connection closed by foreign host."
Probably somthing is broken, by the Update vom the previus A48 Version to now.

Best regards

Alisha

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From: nospam.Al.DeRosa@f157.n267.z1.fidonet.org (Al DeRosa)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2023 07:28:09 +1300
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 by: Al DeRosa - Sat, 7 Jan 2023 18:28 UTC

On 08 Jan 2023, Alisha Stutz said the following...
AS>
AS> But i see that TELNET (mys112a48_l64.rar 2023-01-07 23:09
AS> 1.0M ) is actual not working in the latest A48 Version from today/this
AS> night.
AS>
AS> It close the connection imidiatly with "Connection closed by foreign
AS> host." Probably somthing is broken, by the Update vom the previus A48
AS> Version to now.

Someone over on fsxNet is also having this issue..

.... Do vegetarians eat animal crackers?

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2023 11:35:14 +1300
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 by: g00r00 - Sat, 7 Jan 2023 22:35 UTC

AD> AS> It close the connection imidiatly with "Connection closed by foreign
AD>
AD> Someone over on fsxNet is also having this issue..

All versions have been updated with the fix for this.

.... (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer.

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Subject: Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2023 11:21:58 +1300
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 by: g00r00 - Sat, 7 Jan 2023 22:21 UTC

AS> It close the connection imidiatly with "Connection closed by foreign
AS> host." Probably somthing is broken, by the Update vom the previus A48
AS> Version to now.

Ok I have fixed that for all of the other versions in the latest build. I will
upload the Pi 64-bit build in about 30 minutes which will have the fix for that
too.

Thanks for letting me know.

.... Confucius say: "Its stuffy inside fortune cookie"

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Subject: Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
Date: Sun, 08 Jan 2023 14:55:11 +1300
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 by: Al DeRosa - Sun, 8 Jan 2023 01:55 UTC

On 08 Jan 2023, g00r00 said the following...
g0>
g0> All versions have been updated with the fix for this.
g0>

`That is why you are the man!!

.... That's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature

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From: nospam.Alisha.Stutz@f113.n301.z2.fidonet.org (Alisha Stutz)
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Subject: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
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 by: Alisha Stutz - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 20:26 UTC

Hi g00r00,

Is from your side already decided if the current PreAlpha version A48 will get
a 64 bit Raspberry Pi version for the upcoming stable version? Or is this only
planned for A49 or later?

Best regards
Alisha

.... It said "insert disk #3", but only two will fit...

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Subject: Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 11:02:38 +1300
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 by: g00r00 - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 22:02 UTC

AS> Hi g00r00,
AS>
AS> Is from your side already decided if the current PreAlpha version A48
AS> will get a 64 bit Raspberry Pi version for the upcoming stable version?
AS> Or is this only planned for A49 or later?

I think I'll release A48 in a week or two and then I'll release A49 once I get
the Pi 64-bit version going. Its possible A48 could still include one but
probably unlikely.

The problem I face with a 64-bit ARM version (and the new Apple hardware) is
that I don't have hardware to develop on.

I have considered a setup something like this for Pi development (as an
alternative to the Pi 4, which prices have tripled for thanks to scalpers):

https://www.amazon.com/Orange-Pi-Six-Core-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B0BN1V51HK

Full transparency: My budget is $95 which is about 2 years of donations (mostly
from one person who doesn't donate anymore) so this is a little bit of an
investment. I am trying not to spend my own money on hardware that is only
used for Mystic at this point in my life lol.

I am also looking at emulation options which is what I tried once before with
pretty poor results. And I might have a Pi 3 to use which I think can run
64-bit Raspberry Pi OS?

.... This virus requires Microsoft Windows 3.x

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Subject: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:32:52 +1300
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 by: Mike Fenton - Wed, 4 Jan 2023 23:32 UTC

g0> I think I'll release A48 in a week or two and then I'll release A49 once
g0> I get the Pi 64-bit version going. Its possible A48 could still include
g0> one but probably unlikely.
g0>
g0> The problem I face with a 64-bit ARM version (and the new Apple
g0> hardware) is that I don't have hardware to develop on.
g0>
g0> I have considered a setup something like this for Pi development (as an
g0> alternative to the Pi 4, which prices have tripled for thanks to
g0> scalpers):

Sounds to me, we should all donate as sysops. Even if it's $10 and we all do it
for your time.

.... "I am" is the shortest sentence in English. Is 'I do' the longest?

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Subject: Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
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 by: Alisha Stutz - Thu, 5 Jan 2023 06:34 UTC

Hi g00r00,

MF>
MF> Sounds to me, we should all donate as sysops. Even if it's $10 and we
MF> all do it for your time.
MF>

Where we can donate like paypal or somthing?

Is there as well a change to get with A49 Multi Core and Multi Thread Support
for Mystic BBS? Right now my Problem is that mutil with the maint.ini runs more
then 4h every Day.

PurgeMessageBases = true
PackMessageBases = true
MergeNodeLists = true
PackFileBases = true
LinkMessages = true
FileSort = true
PurgeUserBase = true
PackUserBase = true

In this time there is no import of messages/netmails and as well
no export of messages/netmails to peers and points.

Would be nice when mutil can run in Multi Core and Multi Thread mode to speed
up flows.

Best regards

Alisha

.... Computers all wait at the same speed!

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 by: g00r00 - Thu, 5 Jan 2023 01:20 UTC

AS> Where we can donate like paypal or somthing?

There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on mysticbbs.com
if you are interested.

AS> Is there as well a change to get with A49 Multi Core and Multi Thread
AS> Support for Mystic BBS? Right now my Problem is that mutil with the
AS> maint.ini runs more then 4h every Day.

Most tasks should be completing in a fraction of one second, not 4 hours. What
process and disk are you using? If for example you're using an SD card and
regenereating all your databases then you are probably hardware bottlenecked by
the read speed of the disk. In that case nothing I can do will improve that.

AS> PurgeMessageBases = true
AS> PackMessageBases = true
AS> MergeNodeLists = true
AS> PackFileBases = true
AS> LinkMessages = true
AS> FileSort = true
AS> PurgeUserBase = true
AS> PackUserBase = true

The first thing I see is that the packing functions aren't something you run
all day every day, or even once daily. They are things that should be ran
manually once every so often - maybe once a month. But even so, those things
should take seconds to complete if you're not disk bottlenecked.

Purging can be run more often but its still not really something you'd want to
run throughout the day.

Here's the output of my BBS executing on a 5 year old laptop that has an SSD
drive on it with a message base that hasn't been purged or packed for probably
6+ months (so you'll see lots of work to be done). The entire thing even when
doing a monthly maint execution takes seconds. Your every day tasks should be
completing in fractions of a second.

----------------- MUTIL v1.12 A48 2023/01/04 Thu, Jan 05 2023 (loglevel 3)
+ Jan 05 14:04:01 Startup using mutil.ini
- Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC EchoNodeTracker
- Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC MassUpload
- Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC AutoHatch
- Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC PurgeMessageBases
- Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC PackMessageBases
- Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC MergeNodeLists
- Jan 05 14:04:01 EXEC Export_Golded
+ Jan 05 14:04:01 Process: Echo Node Tracker
+ Jan 05 14:04:02 Results: 0 Reset, 0 Disabled, 0 Hold in 0.02s
+ Jan 05 14:04:02 Process: Mass Upload Files
+ Jan 05 14:04:02 Results: Uploaded 0 file(s) in 0.00s
+ Jan 05 14:04:02 Process: Auto Hatch
+ Jan 05 14:04:02 Results: Hatched 0 file(s) in 0.00s
+ Jan 05 14:04:02 Process: Purging Message Bases
+ Jan 05 14:04:04 Results: Purged 47619 messages in 2.58s
+ Jan 05 14:04:04 Process: Packing Message Bases
+ Jan 05 14:04:10 Results: Removed 47623 msgs in 62 bases in 5.45s
+ Jan 05 14:04:10 Process: Merging Nodelists
+ Jan 05 14:04:10 Results: Merged 2 of 2 nodelist(s) in 0.00s
+ Jan 05 14:04:10 Process: Export Golded Areas
+ Jan 05 14:04:10 Results: Exported 61 records in 0.00s
+ Jan 05 14:04:10 Shutdown Normal (0)

.... I have a really good memory, except it's short.

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 by: Mike Fenton - Thu, 5 Jan 2023 06:21 UTC

g0> There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on
g0> mysticbbs.com if you are interested.

Donation sent...

.... A SQL query walks into a bar and sees two tables. Asks: 'Can I join you?'

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From: nospam.g00r00@f215.n129.z1.fidonet.org (g00r00)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 20:56:09 +1300
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 by: g00r00 - Thu, 5 Jan 2023 07:56 UTC

MF> g0> There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on
MF> g0> mysticbbs.com if you are interested.
MF>
MF> Donation sent...

Thanks, much appreciated. I'll be using it towards getting ARM 64-bit going!

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Subject: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
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 by: Mike Fenton - Thu, 5 Jan 2023 08:26 UTC

g0>
g0> Thanks, much appreciated. I'll be using it towards getting ARM 64-bit

Sounds good, The effort and time for your development deserves a bit of cash.

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Subject: Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
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 by: Alisha Stutz - Fri, 6 Jan 2023 06:14 UTC

Hi g00r00

g0>
g0> There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on
g0> mysticbbs.com if you are interested.
g0>

Donation sent as well...

Best regards

Alisha

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 by: g00r00 - Fri, 6 Jan 2023 01:02 UTC

AS> g0> There is a Paypal donate button at the bottom of the home page on
AS> g0> mysticbbs.com if you are interested.
AS> g0>
AS>
AS> Donation sent as well...

Thank you very much! I'll do my best to get you that 64-bit ARM version soon!

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Subject: Re: pre alpha or Stable Raspberry PI 64Bit Version?
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 by: g00r00 - Sat, 7 Jan 2023 11:10 UTC

AS> Hi g00r00,
AS>
AS> Is from your side already decided if the current PreAlpha version A48
AS> will get a 64 bit Raspberry Pi version for the upcoming stable version?
AS> Or is this only planned for A49 or later?

Alisha,

There is now a 64-bit version for ARM (Pi) available in the downloads prealpha
directory on mysticbbs.com! :)

I've just updated all versions of Mystic with the latest code there.

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