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* Micro ComputerIB Joe
+- Re: Micro ComputerKurt Weiske
+* Re: Micro Computerg00r00
|`* Re: Micro ComputerIB Joe
| `* Re: Micro Computerg00r00
|  `* Re: Micro ComputerIB Joe
|   `- Re: Micro Computerg00r00
`- Re: Micro ComputerRyan Fantus

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From: nospam.IB.Joe@f200.n342.z1.fidonet.org (IB Joe)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: Micro Computer
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 05:32:57 +1300
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 by: IB Joe - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 16:32 UTC

I don't work in the Tech industry, my expertise lays outside of there. I
bought a micro computer the other day to host the BBS on it and for the life of
me I could NOT install a 32Bit version of windows 10 on it... There was 4
failed attempts. I went with the 64Bit version and installed the hack DLL file
that will let me run 16Bit doors.

Is there something I don't know about todays hardware that it would reject a
32Bit OS??

I copied the BBS over to the new micro-server and it's complaining about the
file needed SSL/SSH cryptlib is missing... Why can't a cut and paste work
smoothly. The latest version of mystic was released just the other day
correct?? I want to do a fresh install of the exes and dll files...

Thanx

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-

.... Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.

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From: nospam.Kurt.Weiske@f1.n770.z15174.fidonet.org (Kurt Weiske)
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Subject: Re: Micro Computer
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 06:59:00 +1300
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 by: Kurt Weiske - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 17:59 UTC

-=> IB Joe wrote to All <=-

IJ> I don't work in the Tech industry, my expertise lays outside of there.
IJ> I bought a micro computer the other day to host the BBS on it and for
IJ> the life of me I could NOT install a 32Bit version of windows 10 on
IJ> it... There was 4 failed attempts. I went with the 64Bit version and
IJ> installed the hack DLL file that will let me run 16Bit doors.

I've never heard of issues with 32-bit OSes on modern hardware. I'm
running Windows 10/32 bit on my BBS, but I was running it on a 32-bit
CPU, and now in a virtual machine.

IJ> Is there something I don't know about todays hardware that it would
IJ> reject a 32Bit OS??

The only issues I've read about are on 64-bit systems with over 4GB of
RAM installed.

.... Powered By Celeron (Tualatin). Engineered for the future.

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Subject: Re: Micro Computer
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 10:22:38 +1300
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 by: g00r00 - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 21:22 UTC

IJ> I copied the BBS over to the new micro-server and it's complaining about
IJ> the file needed SSL/SSH cryptlib is missing... Why can't a cut and
IJ> paste work smoothly. The latest version of mystic was released just the

If you are switching between 32-bit and 64-bit then you'd need to replace the
corresponding .dll files with their 32-bit or 64-bit versions.

It is saying you don't have Cryptlib so that means you'd need to have cl64.dll
in your Mystic directory for the 64-bit version of Mystic (or cl32.dll for
Mystic 32-bit).

Normally the installation program puts the proper .dll file there for you, but
when you switch you need to do it yourself.

If you have an unarchive copy of Mystic in a temp folder you can do "install
extract cl64.dll c:\mystic" and it will extract cl64.dll to c:\mystic for you
and that might clear up your message.

.... User Error: Replace user and hit any key to continue...

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From: nospam.IB.Joe@f200.n342.z1.fidonet.org (IB Joe)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: Re: Micro Computer
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 09:22:16 +1300
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 by: IB Joe - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 20:22 UTC

On 25 Jan 2023, g00r00 said the following...
g0> IJ> I copied the BBS over to the new micro-server and it's complaining ab
g0> IJ> the file needed SSL/SSH cryptlib is missing... Why can't a cut and
g0> IJ> paste work smoothly. The latest version of mystic was released just
g0>
g0> If you are switching between 32-bit and 64-bit then you'd need to
g0> replace the corresponding .dll files with their 32-bit or 64-bit
g0> versions.
g0>
g0> It is saying you don't have Cryptlib so that means you'd need to have
g0> cl64.dll in your Mystic directory for the 64-bit version of Mystic (or
g0> cl32.dll for Mystic 32-bit).
g0>
g0> Normally the installation program puts the proper .dll file there for
g0> you, but when you switch you need to do it yourself.
g0>
g0> If you have an unarchive copy of Mystic in a temp folder you can do
g0> "install extract cl64.dll c:\mystic" and it will extract cl64.dll to
g0> c:\mystic for you and that might clear up your message.
g0>
g0> ... User Error: Replace user and hit any key to continue...
g0>

OMG, I cannot just do something simple... Mystic was running on a Windows 10
64Bit... running great I might add... I bought a micro computer, AMD processor,
windows 10 64Bit because the 32bit version would not install.

I just copied it over and it started giving me grief about the SSH/SSL thing. I
downloaded the latest version of mystic and updated the cl64.dll and it's still
giving me static...

:(

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-

.... Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film.

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Newsgroups: alt.bbs.mystic
Subject: Re: Micro Computer
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 11:43:45 +1300
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 by: Ryan Fantus - Tue, 24 Jan 2023 22:43 UTC

IJ> Is there something I don't know about todays hardware that it would
IJ> reject a 32Bit OS??

Sounds like maybe you have secure boot enabled and secure boot doesn't like the
32 bit OS. I could be wrong, this is a bit of a stab in the dark :/

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Subject: Re: Micro Computer
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2023 16:37:13 +1300
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 by: g00r00 - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 03:37 UTC

IJ> I just copied it over and it started giving me grief about the SSH/SSL
IJ> thing. I downloaded the latest version of mystic and updated the
IJ> cl64.dll and it's still giving me static...

The instructions mention this too, but I don't remember if its still relevant:

In addition to the .DLL file, Cryptlib may have a dependency on the Visual C++
runtime which may or may not need to be installed on your particular system.
This depends on how the .DLL files themselves were compiled. If you have the
appropriate .DLL file in the root Mystic BBS directory but you still get a
message on server startup that says Cryptlib is not installed, then you likely
need to install a Microsoft runtime that is required by Cryptlib (for example):

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

.... One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor.

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From: nospam.IB.Joe@f200.n342.z1.fidonet.org (IB Joe)
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Subject: Re: Micro Computer
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 07:30:04 +1300
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 by: IB Joe - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 18:30 UTC

On 25 Jan 2023, g00r00 said the following...
g0> IJ> I just copied it over and it started giving me grief about the SSH/SS
g0> IJ> thing. I downloaded the latest version of mystic and updated the
g0> IJ> cl64.dll and it's still giving me static...
g0>
g0> The instructions mention this too, but I don't remember if its still
g0> relevant:
g0>
g0> In addition to the .DLL file, Cryptlib may have a dependency on the
g0> Visual C++ runtime which may or may not need to be installed on your
g0> particular system. This depends on how the .DLL files themselves were
g0> compiled. If you have the appropriate .DLL file in the root Mystic BBS
g0> directory but you still get a message on server startup that says
g0> Cryptlib is not installed, then you likely need to install a Microsoft
g0> runtime that is required by Cryptlib (for example):
g0>
g0> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

This fixed the problem...

Thanx

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-

.... Back up my hard drive? I can't find the reverse switch!

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Subject: Re: Micro Computer
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 13:18:14 +1300
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 by: g00r00 - Fri, 27 Jan 2023 00:18 UTC

IJ> This fixed the problem...

Thats great!

.... I think I am, therefore, I am... I think.

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