I happen to be TRYING to update my Leap-15.5 system with "zypper up" but
a 170mb nVidia pacakge keeps timing out, what's more zypper doesn't seem
to resume a timed-out partial but starts all over again. This has
happened about 4 times as I write this.

x11-video-nvidiaG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64 (nVidia Graphics Drivers)

Is there any way for the community to just blacklist them?

How much bandwidth is being wasted on account of their incompetence?

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On 10/1/2023 7:21 PM, bad sector wrote:
>
> I happen to be TRYING to update my Leap-15.5 system with "zypper up" but a 170mb nVidia pacakge keeps timing out, what's more zypper doesn't seem to resume a timed-out partial but starts all over again. This has happened about 4 times as I write this.
>
> x11-video-nvidiaG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64 (nVidia Graphics Drivers)
>
> Is there any way for the community to just blacklist them?
>
> How much bandwidth is being wasted on account of their incompetence?

Surely the server supports byte ranges.

Get yourself one of these, open multiple connections. Each connection
uses a byterange. If a connection dies, it retries automatically, and
since a byterange is not the entire file, you may find that most
of the file downloads without disruption, and the occasional timeout
is handled by a retry.

https://aria2.github.io/

Paul

On 10/1/23 20:48, David W. Hodgins wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Oct 2023 19:21:12 -0400, bad sector <forgetski@invalid.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I happen to be TRYING to update my Leap-15.5 system with "zypper up" but
>> a 170mb nVidia pacakge keeps timing out, what's more zypper doesn't seem
>> to resume a timed-out partial but starts all over again. This has
>> happened about 4 times as I write this.
>>
>> x11-video-nvidiaG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64 (nVidia Graphics
>> Drivers)
>>
>> Is there any way for the community to just blacklist them?
>>
>> How much bandwidth is being wasted on account of their incompetence?
>
> I've never used suse, but according the the man page and config file for
> it,
> it has no timeout parameter or way to specify the downloader.
>
> $ time wget
> https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/leap/15.5/x86_64/nvidia-glG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64.rpm
> --2023-10-01 20:45:04--
> https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/leap/15.5/x86_64/nvidia-glG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64.rpm
> Resolving download.nvidia.com (download.nvidia.com)...
> 2606:2800:21f:150d:87d:2526:2d1:177d, 192.229.210.202
> Connecting to download.nvidia.com
> (download.nvidia.com)|2606:2800:21f:150d:87d:2526:2d1:177d|:443...
> connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: 17721852 (17M) [application/octet-stream]
> Saving to: ‘nvidia-glG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64.rpm’
>
> nvidia-glG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64.rpm
> 100%[====================================================================================================================>]  16.90M  3.44MB/s    in 5.0s
>
> 2023-10-01 20:45:10 (3.40 MB/s) -
> ‘nvidia-glG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64.rpm’ saved [17721852/17721852]
>
>
> real    0m5.339s
> user    0m0.164s
> sys     0m0.241s
>
> It's 17M, not 170M. Are you sure it's timing out and you haven't run out of
> disk space in the file system where it's downloading the packages?
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

Weird, mine was showing 170, actually 169.xmb

Maybe they've fixed it since, It finished downloading after I posted but
most of the time I get very slow loads when zypper hits the nvidia repo.
I have no idea why. The PROBLEM repo is always either nVidia or packman.

On 10/1/23 21:53, Paul wrote:
> On 10/1/2023 7:21 PM, bad sector wrote:
>>
>> I happen to be TRYING to update my Leap-15.5 system with "zypper up" but a 170mb nVidia pacakge keeps timing out, what's more zypper doesn't seem to resume a timed-out partial but starts all over again. This has happened about 4 times as I write this.
>>
>> x11-video-nvidiaG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64 (nVidia Graphics Drivers)
>>
>> Is there any way for the community to just blacklist them?
>>
>> How much bandwidth is being wasted on account of their incompetence?
>
> Surely the server supports byte ranges.
>
> Get yourself one of these, open multiple connections. Each connection
> uses a byterange. If a connection dies, it retries automatically, and
> since a byterange is not the entire file, you may find that most
> of the file downloads without disruption, and the occasional timeout
> is handled by a retry.
>
> https://aria2.github.io/
>
> Paul

zypper is the update tool, it doesn't just download the rpms, and other
than the packman & nvidia repos I have few problems (but thanks all the
same)

On 10/1/2023 10:57 PM, bad sector wrote:
> On 10/1/23 21:53, Paul wrote:
>> On 10/1/2023 7:21 PM, bad sector wrote:
>>>
>>> I happen to be TRYING to update my Leap-15.5 system with "zypper up" but a 170mb nVidia pacakge keeps timing out, what's more zypper doesn't seem to resume a timed-out partial but starts all over again. This has happened about 4 times as I write this.
>>>
>>> x11-video-nvidiaG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64 (nVidia Graphics Drivers)
>>>
>>> Is there any way for the community to just blacklist them?
>>>
>>> How much bandwidth is being wasted on account of their incompetence?
>>
>> Surely the server supports byte ranges.
>>
>> Get yourself one of these, open multiple connections. Each connection
>> uses a byterange. If a connection dies, it retries automatically, and
>> since a byterange is not the entire file, you may find that most
>> of the file downloads without disruption, and the occasional timeout
>> is handled by a retry.
>>
>> https://aria2.github.io/
>>
>>     Paul
>
>
> zypper is the update tool, it doesn't just download the rpms, and other than the packman & nvidia repos I have few problems (but thanks all the same)
>
There used to be a way to do it. export ZYPP_ARIA2C=1

But apparently, using an outboard downloader
is no longer supported or something.

https://forums.opensuse.org/t/how-to-use-zypper-with-wget-as-default-downloader/103333/4

Paul

On 2023-10-01 23:19, Paul wrote:
> On 10/1/2023 10:57 PM, bad sector wrote:
>> On 10/1/23 21:53, Paul wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2023 7:21 PM, bad sector wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I happen to be TRYING to update my Leap-15.5 system with "zypper up" but a 170mb nVidia pacakge keeps timing out, what's more zypper doesn't seem to resume a timed-out partial but starts all over again. This has happened about 4 times as I write this.
>>>>
>>>> x11-video-nvidiaG05-470.199.02-lp155.58.1.x86_64 (nVidia Graphics Drivers)
>>>>
>>>> Is there any way for the community to just blacklist them?
>>>>
>>>> How much bandwidth is being wasted on account of their incompetence?
>>>
>>> Surely the server supports byte ranges.
>>>
>>> Get yourself one of these, open multiple connections. Each connection
>>> uses a byterange. If a connection dies, it retries automatically, and
>>> since a byterange is not the entire file, you may find that most
>>> of the file downloads without disruption, and the occasional timeout
>>> is handled by a retry.
>>>
>>> https://aria2.github.io/
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>
>>
>> zypper is the update tool, it doesn't just download the rpms, and other than the packman & nvidia repos I have few problems (but thanks all the same)
>>
> There used to be a way to do it. export ZYPP_ARIA2C=1
>
> But apparently, using an outboard downloader
> is no longer supported or something.
>
> https://forums.opensuse.org/t/how-to-use-zypper-with-wget-as-default-downloader/103333/4

When I read about people with ten times my expertese having a bad day
trying to drive a hummer on two wheels on the same side I kinda don't
even go near it :-)

KISS is it! I have only two periodic but otherwise predictable issues
with zypper and either suse-packman or suse-nvidia repos, why would I
want to upgrade those to a dozen?

First of all I would want to properly *id the problem*, it's called
positive target identification. I don't know why half of them revolve
around the nVidia repo? (The packman issue is different, posted on the
suse NG). Worst of all I can't even say 'well, be done with upgrading
nvidia then', it's so tied into the kernel that I have to upgrade it too
to keep the ship afloat.

On 2023-10-02 05:19, Paul wrote:
> On 10/1/2023 10:57 PM, bad sector wrote:
>> On 10/1/23 21:53, Paul wrote:
>>> On 10/1/2023 7:21 PM, bad sector wrote:

>
>>> https://aria2.github.io/
>>>
>>
>> zypper is the update tool, it doesn't just download the rpms, and other than the packman & nvidia repos I have few problems (but thanks all the same)
>>
> There used to be a way to do it. export ZYPP_ARIA2C=1
>
> But apparently, using an outboard downloader
> is no longer supported or something.
>
> https://forums.opensuse.org/t/how-to-use-zypper-with-wget-as-default-downloader/103333/4

You can always download the rpm externally and place it in the correct
location that zypper expects it (/var/cache/zypp/packages/...).

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.