For months, maybe a year or more, 2 of my @outlook.com email accounts have
been accumulating 70 or more junk mails every day. Lately, today and
yesterday, these junk folders have been clear, similar to my other
@outlook.com accounts. So, I was wondering if anyone here has been suffering
from excessive junk mails only to see the junk mail folder empty over the
last couple of days.

On 9/22/23 07:33, this is what Glen wrote:
> For months, maybe a year or more, 2 of my @outlook.com email accounts have
> been accumulating 70 or more junk mails every day. Lately, today and
> yesterday, these junk folders have been clear, similar to my other
> @outlook.com accounts. So, I was wondering if anyone here has been suffering
> from excessive junk mails only to see the junk mail folder empty over the
> last couple of days.
I get them but only 1 or 2 maybe in 2 weeks. I haven't had one lately, but since a week isn't unusual I can't say one
way or the other.
I usually go to the web page version of outlook/hotmail (for me) and block the sender. Been doing that for about
2months now.
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Al

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:50:11 -0400, Big Al <Bears@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 9/22/23 07:33, this is what Glen wrote:
>> For months, maybe a year or more, 2 of my @outlook.com email accounts have
>> been accumulating 70 or more junk mails every day. Lately, today and
>> yesterday, these junk folders have been clear, similar to my other
>> @outlook.com accounts. So, I was wondering if anyone here has been suffering
>> from excessive junk mails only to see the junk mail folder empty over the
>> last couple of days.
>>
>I get them but only 1 or 2 maybe in 2 weeks. I haven't had one lately, but since a week isn't unusual I can't say one
>way or the other.
>I usually go to the web page version of outlook/hotmail (for me) and block the sender. Been doing that for about
>2months now.

Thanks for feedback, Al.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:50:11 -0400, Big Al wrote:
> I usually go to the web page version of outlook/hotmail (for me) and block the sender. Been doing that for about
> 2months now.
>

Block the sender, or block the address in the From line?

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Shikata ga nai...

On 9/22/23 11:05, this is what Stan Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:50:11 -0400, Big Al wrote:
>> I usually go to the web page version of outlook/hotmail (for me) and block the sender. Been doing that for about
>> 2months now.
>>
>
> Block the sender, or block the address in the From line?
>
Block sender I think is the term. Haven't done it but 3 times. Just right click the email to bring up a content menu.
Block->Sender, IIRC
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Al

On 2023-09-22 21:18, Big Al wrote:
> On 9/22/23 11:05, this is what Stan Brown wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:50:11 -0400, Big Al wrote:
>>> I usually go to the web page version of outlook/hotmail (for me) and
>>> block the sender.   Been doing that for about
>>> 2months now.
>>>
>>
>> Block the sender, or block the address in the From line?
>>
> Block sender I think is the term.  Haven't done it but 3 times.  Just
> right click the email to bring up a content menu. Block->Sender, IIRC

And you really do this with Spam? Do you really get many spammers
keeping the same constant name?

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 21:53:38 +0200, in
<kn69m2FqvvtU1@mid.individual.net>, "Carlos E. R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>And you really do this with Spam? Do you really get many spammers
>keeping the same constant name?

No, I don't bother... and I was about to say, some might think
blocking sender works, but it only "works" because they don't send
from the same address. Even blocking the domain seldom works. And it's
a pain in the butt to log into webmail to filter on the domain level
when I prefer using a 3rd party email client to begin with.

--
Jim H

On 09/22/2023 4:14 PM, Jim H wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 21:53:38 +0200, in
> <kn69m2FqvvtU1@mid.individual.net>, "Carlos E. R."
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> And you really do this with Spam? Do you really get many spammers
>> keeping the same constant name?
>
> No, I don't bother... and I was about to say, some might think
> blocking sender works, but it only "works" because they don't send
> from the same address. Even blocking the domain seldom works. And it's
> a pain in the butt to log into webmail to filter on the domain level
> when I prefer using a 3rd party email client to begin with.
>
Rather than block the sender, set a filter to delete the message based
on the subject, word in the subject, constant part, or some other
commonality in the messages.

Don't forget to mark "Match any of the following."

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 15:18:59 -0400, Big Al wrote:
>
> On 9/22/23 11:05, this is what Stan Brown wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:50:11 -0400, Big Al wrote:
> >> I usually go to the web page version of outlook/hotmail (for me) and block the sender. Been doing that for about
> >> 2months now.
> >>
> >
> > Block the sender, or block the address in the From line?
> >
> Block sender I think is the term. Haven't done it but 3 times. Just right click the email to bring up a content menu.
> Block->Sender, IIRC

That's what I thought.

What you're blocking is almost certainly a one-time address that the
spammer makes up. (Well, the spammer's software; of course the
spammer doesn't think up addresses because that would take far too
long.) Naturally you don't get another spam with that particular
faked email address after you block it, but YOU WOULDN'T ANYWAY,
because they just use each fake address for one mailing.

Blocking email addresses of spammers is essentially a waste of your
time,(*) just like blocking phone numbers of spammers. In each case,
the "From" address or the caller ID is fake. In a way, this is
progress. Spammers used to use real addresses or phone numbers that
were not their own, so innocent third parties got accused of
spamming. I had that problem for quite a while with spammers using my
oakroadsystems.com addresses as their "From" addresses. Thankfully,
now that completely fake addresses and phone numbers are more common,
that's less of a problem now. (For unrelated reasons, I no longer
have the oakroadsystems.com domain.)

(*) The exception would be real companies, Astronomy.com and aarp.org
for example, that send spams and have "unsubscribe" links in their
emails that don't work. Blocking those actually accomplishes
something. But real companies that use real addresses are a tiny
minority of spammers.

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Shikata ga nai...

On 9/22/23 20:21, this is what Stan Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 15:18:59 -0400, Big Al wrote:
>>
>> On 9/22/23 11:05, this is what Stan Brown wrote:
>>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:50:11 -0400, Big Al wrote:
>>>> I usually go to the web page version of outlook/hotmail (for me) and block the sender. Been doing that for about
>>>> 2months now.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Block the sender, or block the address in the From line?
>>>
>> Block sender I think is the term. Haven't done it but 3 times. Just right click the email to bring up a content menu.
>> Block->Sender, IIRC
>
> That's what I thought.
>
> What you're blocking is almost certainly a one-time address that the
> spammer makes up. (Well, the spammer's software; of course the
> spammer doesn't think up addresses because that would take far too
> long.) Naturally you don't get another spam with that particular
> faked email address after you block it, but YOU WOULDN'T ANYWAY,
> because they just use each fake address for one mailing.
>
> Blocking email addresses of spammers is essentially a waste of your
> time,(*) just like blocking phone numbers of spammers. In each case,
> the "From" address or the caller ID is fake. In a way, this is
> progress. Spammers used to use real addresses or phone numbers that
> were not their own, so innocent third parties got accused of
> spamming. I had that problem for quite a while with spammers using my
> oakroadsystems.com addresses as their "From" addresses. Thankfully,
> now that completely fake addresses and phone numbers are more common,
> that's less of a problem now. (For unrelated reasons, I no longer
> have the oakroadsystems.com domain.)
>
> (*) The exception would be real companies, Astronomy.com and aarp.org
> for example, that send spams and have "unsubscribe" links in their
> emails that don't work. Blocking those actually accomplishes
> something. But real companies that use real addresses are a tiny
> minority of spammers.
>
I've only done 3 and I'm sure I'm doing nothing.
I'm going to see if there is any common content and filter on that. Someone here suggested that. Better probability
that the same spammer is sending similar worded spam. Or one would hope. We'll see.
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Al

On 9/22/2023 4:33 AM, Glen wrote:
> For months, maybe a year or more, 2 of my @outlook.com email accounts have
> been accumulating 70 or more junk mails every day. Lately, today and
> yesterday, these junk folders have been clear, similar to my other
> @outlook.com accounts. So, I was wondering if anyone here has been suffering
> from excessive junk mails only to see the junk mail folder empty over the
> last couple of days.

About 3 years ago I suddenly started getting a lot of junk mail on my
comcast email account - more than ten per day.
Suddenly, about a month ago, the junk mail stopped coming. I don't know
what happened, but I have heard a rumor about authorities recently
cracking down on things like that.

Bill S.

On 9/24/2023 3:58 PM, bilsch01 wrote:
> On 9/22/2023 4:33 AM, Glen wrote:
>> For months, maybe a year or more, 2 of my @outlook.com email accounts have
>> been accumulating 70 or more junk mails every day. Lately, today and
>> yesterday, these junk folders have been clear, similar to my other
>> @outlook.com accounts. So, I was wondering if anyone here has been suffering
>> from excessive junk mails only to see the junk mail folder empty over the
>> last couple of days.
>
> About 3 years ago I suddenly started getting a lot of junk mail on my comcast email account - more than ten per day.
> Suddenly, about a month ago, the junk mail stopped coming. I don't know what happened,
> but I have heard a rumor about authorities recently cracking down on things like that.
>
> Bill S.

"cracking down" :-)

You must be joking.

Maybe the junk mail guy is on vacation this week :-)

Paul

On 9/24/2023 4:21 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 9/24/2023 3:58 PM, bilsch01 wrote:
>> On 9/22/2023 4:33 AM, Glen wrote:
>>> For months, maybe a year or more, 2 of my @outlook.com email accounts have
>>> been accumulating 70 or more junk mails every day. Lately, today and
>>> yesterday, these junk folders have been clear, similar to my other
>>> @outlook.com accounts. So, I was wondering if anyone here has been suffering
>>> from excessive junk mails only to see the junk mail folder empty over the
>>> last couple of days.
>>
>> About 3 years ago I suddenly started getting a lot of junk mail on my comcast email account - more than ten per day.
>> Suddenly, about a month ago, the junk mail stopped coming. I don't know what happened,
>> but I have heard a rumor about authorities recently cracking down on things like that.
>>
>> Bill S.
>
> "cracking down" :-)
>
> You must be joking.
>
> Maybe the junk mail guy is on vacation this week :-)
>
> Paul

What I heard was that someone got their ass kicked because there was no
"unsubscribe" feature in junk mail they were sending. I heard that
around the time all the junk mail stopped coming to my account. Probably
unrelated.

On 22 Sep 2023, Glen <reply@group.please> wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-11:

> For months, maybe a year or more, 2 of my @outlook.com email
> accounts have been accumulating 70 or more junk mails every day.
> Lately, today and yesterday, these junk folders have been clear,
> similar to my other @outlook.com accounts. So, I was wondering if
> anyone here has been suffering from excessive junk mails only to
> see the junk mail folder empty over the last couple of days.

Related anecdotes... I used to get almost no spam at my primary
address. Then about a year ago I started getting up to 20 per day. I
guess my address finally got picked up by address farmers despite my
best efforts to keep it hidden. The spam level goes up and down in
waves - right now it's down to 4 or 5 per day, but I'm sure it will go
back up. I have filters in place so that they don't interfere with
anything, but it's still annoying. I don't assume it will ever go
completely away.

I have an old AOL address that I maintain only for observation. For
several years it was getting TONS of spams, up to 60-80 or more per
day. Then, about 6 months ago, suddenly the onslaught stopped, or
nearly so. Now it's only 3 or 4 per week. Somehow the AOL
administrators figured out how to block the spam that had been
bothering their customers for years. I really didn't think they cared
enough to do it even if they knew how.

On 2023-09-25 01:21, Paul wrote:
> On 9/24/2023 3:58 PM, bilsch01 wrote:
>> On 9/22/2023 4:33 AM, Glen wrote:
>>> For months, maybe a year or more, 2 of my @outlook.com email accounts have
>>> been accumulating 70 or more junk mails every day. Lately, today and
>>> yesterday, these junk folders have been clear, similar to my other
>>> @outlook.com accounts. So, I was wondering if anyone here has been suffering
>>> from excessive junk mails only to see the junk mail folder empty over the
>>> last couple of days.
>>
>> About 3 years ago I suddenly started getting a lot of junk mail on my comcast email account - more than ten per day.
>> Suddenly, about a month ago, the junk mail stopped coming. I don't know what happened,
>> but I have heard a rumor about authorities recently cracking down on things like that.
>>
>> Bill S.
>
> "cracking down" :-)
>
> You must be joking.
>
> Maybe the junk mail guy is on vacation this week :-)

Oh, sometimes there is a crackdown on a particular band. I hear those in
the news. Nigeria scam victims reaching a goal or something.

If one happens to be a target of that band, you see a reduction in the spam.

Of course, they don't crack down on mere spammers, they have to do
"actual crimes"

Maybe:
<https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/07/ftc-law-enforcers-nationwide-announce-enforcement-sweep-stem-tide-illegal-telemarketing-calls-us>

FTC, Law Enforcers Nationwide Announce Enforcement Sweep to Stem the
Tide of Illegal Telemarketing Calls to U.S. Consumers

New actions target those who distributed or facilitated billions of
illegal calls and sold more than 700 million telemarketing leads

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Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

On 9/26/2023 9:55 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-09-25 01:21, Paul wrote:
>> On 9/24/2023 3:58 PM, bilsch01 wrote:
>>> On 9/22/2023 4:33 AM, Glen wrote:
>>>> For months, maybe a year or more, 2 of my @outlook.com email accounts have
>>>> been accumulating 70 or more junk mails every day. Lately, today and
>>>> yesterday, these junk folders have been clear, similar to my other
>>>> @outlook.com accounts. So, I was wondering if anyone here has been suffering
>>>> from excessive junk mails only to see the junk mail folder empty over the
>>>> last couple of days.
>>>
>>> About 3 years ago I suddenly started getting a lot of junk mail on my comcast email account - more than ten per day.
>>> Suddenly, about a month ago, the junk mail stopped coming. I don't know what happened,
>>> but I have heard a rumor about authorities recently cracking down on things like that.
>>>
>>> Bill S.
>>
>> "cracking down"  :-)
>>
>> You must be joking.
>>
>> Maybe the junk mail guy is on vacation this week :-)
>
> Oh, sometimes there is a crackdown on a particular band. I hear those in the news. Nigeria scam victims reaching a goal or something.
>
> If one happens to be a target of that band, you see a reduction in the spam.
>
> Of course, they don't crack down on mere spammers, they have to do "actual crimes"
>
> Maybe: <https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/07/ftc-law-enforcers-nationwide-announce-enforcement-sweep-stem-tide-illegal-telemarketing-calls-us>
>
> FTC, Law Enforcers Nationwide Announce Enforcement Sweep to Stem the Tide of Illegal Telemarketing Calls to U.S. Consumers
>
> New actions target those who distributed or facilitated billions of illegal calls and sold more than 700 million telemarketing leads
>

The telemarketing calls here, the frequency of the calls
is different than before, but the calls are still arriving,
and I'm still not picking up the phone.

The "duct cleaning" calls, I suspect those are not arriving
any more, and those were coming from an Indian sweatshop.

The "phishing" calls, some of those may be coming from
inside the country. And those would tell you that "you owe
tax money, and you can pay with a Western Union sent to Nigeria",
that sort of thing. The payment recipe is always exotic and silly.
Someone fell for one of those recently, and paid in Bitcoins :-)
Nice, traceable, currency.

The call spectrum is going to depend on what network you're on.
A person with a cell phone, sees different spam than a person
on VOIP (what I use).

Paul