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[cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore

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From: vlf@star.enet.dec.com (Subcommandante XDelta)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:45:49 +1100
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 by: Subcommandante XDelt - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 06:45 UTC

This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.

Whilst using:

https://www.i2pn2.org/

and

https://www.eternal-september.org/

to weather the spam storm, however, I'm still monitoring my c.o.v.
newsfeed via my NewsGroupDirect (NGD) block account, out of morbid
curiousity, which the admins of such, most certainly, are not on top
of things, and there's been circa 62K spams since the 28th of
November.

I just blindly scoop up all the spam and move it to a SPAM folder, and
then filter it for a few c.o.v specific keywords to see if there has
been some baby bathwater collateral damage.

A few of the spams do reference "comp.os.vms" but they are relatively
rare.

Anyway, FWIW, the spam adaptation test is to see whether adding a
fixed prefix to the subject line will make it easy to filter, using
only one keyword, rathering the fishing for posts with multiple
keywords.

That's about it!

Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore

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From: vlf@star.enet.dec.com (Subcommandante XDelta)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:47:56 +1100
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 by: Subcommandante XDelt - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 06:47 UTC

On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:45:49 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
<vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:

>This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.

This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.

Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore

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From: vlf@star.enet.dec.com (Subcommandante XDelta)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 20:15:17 +1100
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 by: Subcommandante XDelt - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 09:15 UTC

On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:47:56 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
<vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:45:49 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
><vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
>
>>This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.
>
>This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.

This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.

Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore

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From: vlf@star.enet.dec.com (Subcommandante XDelta)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 20:16:41 +1100
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 by: Subcommandante XDelt - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 09:16 UTC

On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 20:15:17 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
<vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:47:56 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
><vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:45:49 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
>><vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
>>
>>>This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.
>>
>>This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.
>
>This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.

(dang!) This is a spam adaptation test (with correct spelling), please
ignore.

Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore

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From: vlf@star.enet.dec.com (Subcommandante XDelta)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2023 21:11:30 +1100
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 by: Subcommandante XDelt - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 10:11 UTC

On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:45:49 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
<vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:

>This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.
>
>Whilst using:
>
>https://www.i2pn2.org/
>
>and
>
>https://www.eternal-september.org/
>
>to weather the spam storm, however, I'm still monitoring my c.o.v.
>newsfeed via my NewsGroupDirect (NGD) block account, out of morbid
>curiousity, which the admins of such, most certainly, are not on top
>of things, and there's been circa 62K spams since the 28th of
>November.
>
>I just blindly scoop up all the spam and move it to a SPAM folder, and
>then filter it for a few c.o.v specific keywords to see if there has
>been some baby bathwater collateral damage.
>
>A few of the spams do reference "comp.os.vms" but they are relatively
>rare.
>
>Anyway, FWIW, the spam adaptation test is to see whether adding a
>fixed prefix to the subject line will make it easy to filter, using
>only one keyword, rathering the fishing for posts with multiple
>keywords.
>
>That's about it!

Conclusion: it's a kludge, but it does enable finding the wheat in the
chaff.

So RFC: If everyone commits to the discipline of using an agreed
prefix, such as [cov] to the subject line, then signal is far less
likely to fall through the cracks (abusing too many metaphors) when
engaging in bulk spam management operations.

Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore

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From: gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2023 09:48:52 -0600
Organization: TNet Consulting
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 by: Grant Taylor - Sat, 9 Dec 2023 15:48 UTC

On 12/9/23 04:11, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
> Conclusion: it's a kludge, but it does enable finding the wheat in the
> chaff.

"kludge" is probably an apt description.

> So RFC: If everyone commits to the discipline of using an agreed
> prefix, such as [cov] to the subject line, then signal is far less
> likely to fall through the cracks (abusing too many metaphors) when
> engaging in bulk spam management operations.

Relying on people to follow a process is prone to error. It's a matter
of when someone will forget / it will fail. There is effectively no
"if" involved.

No, I don't have a better solution, save for filtering all GG. :-(

--
Grant. . . .

Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore

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From: vlf@star.enet.dec.com (Subcommandante XDelta)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: [cov] Spam adaptation test - please ignore
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 11:05:34 +1100
Organization: VMS Liberation Front
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 by: Subcommandante XDelt - Sun, 10 Dec 2023 00:05 UTC

In article <f2c8ni1c22maeok5sm7kt8c85a5efc10to@4ax.com>,
vlf@star.enet.dec.com says...
>
> On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 20:15:17 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
> <vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:47:56 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
> ><vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 09 Dec 2023 17:45:49 +1100, Subcommandante XDelta
> >><vlf@star.enet.dec.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.
> >>
> >>This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.
> >
> >This is a spam adaptain test, please ignore.
>
> (dang!) This is a spam adaptation test (with correct spelling), please
> ignore.

Just a Steve Gibson (GRC) Gravity 3.0 Mod Newsreader Client, for
Windows, test.

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