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* Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERINGMitchAlsup
+- Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERINGKeith Thompson
`* Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERINGQuadibloc
 +- Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERINGMitchAlsup
 +* Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERINGAnton Ertl
 |`- Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERINGMitchAlsup
 +- Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERINGluke.l...@gmail.com
 `- Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERINGScott Lurndal

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 by: MitchAlsup - Wed, 17 May 2023 15:30 UTC

If you quit posting to this NG a lot of us would suffer less.

Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERING

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 by: Keith Thompson - Wed, 17 May 2023 21:57 UTC

MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> writes:
> If you quit posting to this NG a lot of us would suffer less.

"Skybuck Flying" has been making huge numbers of off-topic posts for
many years. He will not stop. He will not respond to requests to be
reasonable. He will continue what he's doing

Given that Usenet doesn't have mechanisms to prevent abusive posters
from posting, and given that Google Groups does not respond to abuse
reports, there is no solution other than individual readers filtering
out his posts.

Which is what I've done for several years. Which is why I don't see
anything he writes unless someone posts a pointless followup.

He posts with what is very probably a valid email address, so if you
want to try to communicate with him you can do so directly.

Followups redirected.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Will write code for food.
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

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Subject: Re: OT: STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERING
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 by: Quadibloc - Wed, 17 May 2023 23:19 UTC

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:30:32 AM UTC-6, MitchAlsup wrote:
> If you quit posting to this NG a lot of us would suffer less.

It's certainly true that Vladimir Putin is unlikely to
change his behavior because a lot of people start
putting

STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERING.

in their posts. Does he _care_ about how much pain and
suffering he is causing the Ukrainian people? I doubt it
very much.

In fact, to the extent such a message would induce
people to change their behavior, I suspect it would change
the behavior of those who _did_ care about the pain and
suffering the Ukrainian people are experiencing.

But they would change it in a very counter-productive way.
This message, as worded, is more likely to *help* Putin,
by encouraging people to press Ukraine to surrender to
Putin, than to change his actions.

John Savard

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 by: MitchAlsup - Thu, 18 May 2023 02:05 UTC

On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 6:19:51 PM UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:30:32 AM UTC-6, MitchAlsup wrote:
> > If you quit posting to this NG a lot of us would suffer less.
> It's certainly true that Vladimir Putin is unlikely to
> change his behavior because a lot of people start
> putting
>
> STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERING.
>
> in their posts. Does he _care_ about how much pain and
> suffering he is causing the Ukrainian people? I doubt it
> very much.
<
But would he if that much suffering was inflicted upon him !
>
> In fact, to the extent such a message would induce
> people to change their behavior, I suspect it would change
> the behavior of those who _did_ care about the pain and
> suffering the Ukrainian people are experiencing.
<
Recidivism remains high with the previously incarcerated.
>
> But they would change it in a very counter-productive way.
> This message, as worded, is more likely to *help* Putin,
> by encouraging people to press Ukraine to surrender to
> Putin, than to change his actions.
>
> John Savard

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 by: Anton Ertl - Thu, 18 May 2023 08:46 UTC

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>It's certainly true that Vladimir Putin is unlikely to
>change his behavior because a lot of people start
>putting
>
>STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERING.
>
>in their posts. Does he _care_ about how much pain and
>suffering he is causing the Ukrainian people? I doubt it
>very much.

Some time ago he boasted that the Russians will endure more suffering
than the West, so he finds even suffering of the Russian people
acceptable.

- anton
--
'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.'
Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7-a594-88a85ac10d20o@googlegroups.com>

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 by: luke.l...@gmail.com - Thu, 18 May 2023 13:04 UTC

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 12:19:51 AM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote:

> STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERING.
>
> in their posts.

i am reminded of the (now legendary) story of Mother Theresa
being invited to an "ANTI-WAR" rally. she famously declined, saying
"but if you ever hold a PEACE rally i will be delighted to accept".

a hypothetical reason why these posts are being made is that
they are not by one person, but that they are being written by
(or their writing is funded by) an Organisation whose remit is
to sow dissent and discord amongst participants of a particular
group. (in this case: comp.arch participants).

there is a book by someone who used to work for such an
Organisation, who became so horrified by the consequences
of their 9-to-5 mon-fri work when they actually encountered
someone whose life was completely destroyed by them,
that they immediately quit their "job" and wrote about what
they did, and why they did it.

it is quite a poignant and insightful book precisely because
the person who wrote it *had* to be knowledgeable about
Humanity... in order to know how best to maximise the
damage they could do as part of their 9-5 "job".

of course, Occam's Razor would tell us that the above
hypothesis is so much horse-shit.

l.

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 by: Scott Lurndal - Thu, 18 May 2023 13:50 UTC

Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
>On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 9:30:32=E2=80=AFAM UTC-6, MitchAlsup wrote:
>> If you quit posting to this NG a lot of us would suffer less.
>

Take Mitch's advice and _STOP POSTING_, John.

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 by: MitchAlsup - Thu, 18 May 2023 19:58 UTC

On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 3:55:14 AM UTC-5, Anton Ertl wrote:
> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> writes:
> >It's certainly true that Vladimir Putin is unlikely to
> >change his behavior because a lot of people start
> >putting
> >
> >STOP THE WAR, STOP THE PAIN, STOP THE SUFFERING.
> >
> >in their posts. Does he _care_ about how much pain and
> >suffering he is causing the Ukrainian people? I doubt it
> >very much.
> Some time ago he boasted that the Russians will endure more suffering
> than the West, so he finds even suffering of the Russian people
> acceptable.
<
So, effectively, skyturddying is just like Putin !!!
Just as likable,
Just as trustable,
Just as loveable.
>
> - anton
> --
> 'Anyone trying for "industrial quality" ISA should avoid undefined behavior.'
> Mitch Alsup, <c17fcd89-f024-40e7...@googlegroups.com>

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