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 by: vmsgenerations - Fri, 2 Feb 2024 14:14 UTC

Dear friends of VMS,

The next webinar meeting "Rendez-vous autour de VMS" of the
VMSgenerations association will be held on Tuesday February 6 from 2 to
4:30 p.m. as a zoom conference.

Here's the zoom link:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89345414458?pwd=T0l3SFNnS21GYW5paXdCNkZaUUZCQT09

We look forward to seeing you there!

Agenda

14:00 - VMSgenerations welcome

14h05 - Imperva - Mohamed Lallouch, Data Security and Compliance Specialist

Data and APIs are major security blind spots today, and are increasingly
being exploited for supplychain attacks. At the dawn of NIS2 regulatory
changes, find out what security practices you need to adopt for your
databases and APIs in an on-premises, hybrid and/or multi-cloud
environment. This webinar will help you learn more about NIS2, as well
as the security methods and tools to comply with it, such as discovery
and classification, vulnerability scanning, and behavioral analysis.

At Imperva (A Thales Company), Mohamed shares best practices on security
and data protection with organizations and companies in France and
Southern Europe.

14h35 - Commvault - Fabrice Mazier, Senior Enterprise System Engineer at
Commvault

Commvault, a leader in the cyber resilience market, has historically
been recognized for its data protection solutions.

Commvault's unified management platform brings modern security
management to OpenVMS environments.

Fabrice MAZIER will present these features and the advantages of our offer.

15h05 - User testimonial: Harold Potier PharmaPilot - Walden Group /
distribution of healthcare products

How to secure a VMS environment in a heterogeneous environment.

The use of different technologies helps protect against cyber attacks,
because despite the robustness of the system, rebound attacks are
possible in this type of environment.

15h35 - VSI - Adam Hoff Nielsen, Sales Director at VMS Software Inc -
Darya Zelenina, appointed CEO

VMS Software Inc. will present the latest security updates we're working
on, and introduce our new CEO, Darya Zelenina, who will discuss what to
consider when migrating to x86 from a project management perspective.

16h : Q&A

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us:
contact@vmsgenerations.fr

Thank you in advance for your participation,

The session will be held in French

The VMS generations office.

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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Fri, 2 Feb 2024 14:37 UTC

On 2/2/2024 9:14 AM, vmsgenerations wrote:
> The next webinar meeting "Rendez-vous autour de VMS" of the
> VMSgenerations association will be held on Tuesday February 6 from 2 to
> 4:30 p.m. as a zoom conference.
>
> Here's the zoom link:
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89345414458?pwd=T0l3SFNnS21GYW5paXdCNkZaUUZCQT09

Again: good initiative.

> 15h35 - VSI - Adam Hoff Nielsen, Sales Director at VMS Software Inc -
> Darya Zelenina, appointed CEO
>
> VMS Software Inc. will present the latest security updates we're working
> on, and introduce our new CEO, Darya Zelenina, who will discuss what to
> consider when migrating to x86 from a project management perspective.
>
> 16h : Q&A

The new CEO thrown to the
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meet the
customers.

:-) :-) :-)

> The session will be held in French

Incl. Adam and Darya??

Arne

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Subject: Re: next webinar meeting "Rendez-vous autour de VMS" : Tuesday
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 by: Hans Bachner - Sun, 4 Feb 2024 20:17 UTC

vmsgenerations schrieb am 02.02.2024 um 15:14:
> Dear friends of VMS,
>
>
> The next webinar meeting "Rendez-vous autour de VMS" of the
> VMSgenerations association will be held on Tuesday February 6 from 2 to
> 4:30 p.m. as a zoom conference.
>
> Here's the zoom link:
> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89345414458?pwd=T0l3SFNnS21GYW5paXdCNkZaUUZCQT09
>
> We look forward to seeing you there!
>
> Agenda
>
> 14:00 - VMSgenerations welcome
>
> 14h05 - Imperva - Mohamed Lallouch, Data Security and Compliance Specialist
>
> Data and APIs are major security blind spots today, and are increasingly
> being exploited for supplychain attacks. At the dawn of NIS2 regulatory
> changes, find out what security practices you need to adopt for your
> databases and APIs in an on-premises, hybrid and/or multi-cloud
> environment. This webinar will help you learn more about NIS2, as well
> as the security methods and tools to comply with it, such as discovery
> and classification, vulnerability scanning, and behavioral analysis.
>
> At Imperva (A Thales Company), Mohamed shares best practices on security
> and data protection with organizations and companies in France and
> Southern Europe.
>
> 14h35 - Commvault - Fabrice Mazier, Senior Enterprise System Engineer at
> Commvault
>
> Commvault, a leader in the cyber resilience market, has historically
> been recognized for its data protection solutions.
>
> Commvault's unified management platform brings modern security
> management to OpenVMS environments.
>
> Fabrice MAZIER will present these features and the advantages of our offer.
>
> 15h05 - User testimonial: Harold Potier PharmaPilot - Walden Group /
> distribution of healthcare products
>
> How to secure a VMS environment in a heterogeneous environment.
>
> The use of different technologies helps protect against cyber attacks,
> because despite the robustness of the system, rebound attacks are
> possible in this type of environment.
>
> 15h35 - VSI - Adam Hoff Nielsen, Sales Director at VMS Software Inc -
> Darya Zelenina, appointed CEO
>
> VMS Software Inc. will present the latest security updates we're working
> on, and introduce our new CEO, Darya Zelenina, who will discuss what to
> consider when migrating to x86 from a project management perspective.
>
> 16h : Q&A
>
> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us:
> contact@vmsgenerations.fr
>
> Thank you in advance for your participation,
>
> The session will be held in French

All the presentations will be held in French?

Thanks, Hans.

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 by: vmsgenerations - Mon, 5 Feb 2024 19:48 UTC

Le 04/02/2024 à 21:17, Hans Bachner a écrit :
> vmsgenerations schrieb am 02.02.2024 um 15:14:
>> Dear friends of VMS,
>>
>>
>> The next webinar meeting "Rendez-vous autour de VMS" of the
>> VMSgenerations association will be held on Tuesday February 6 from 2
>> to 4:30 p.m. as a zoom conference.
>>
>> Here's the zoom link:
>> https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89345414458?pwd=T0l3SFNnS21GYW5paXdCNkZaUUZCQT09
>>
>> We look forward to seeing you there!
>>
>> Agenda
>>
>> 14:00 - VMSgenerations welcome
>>
>> 14h05 - Imperva - Mohamed Lallouch, Data Security and Compliance
>> Specialist
>>
>> Data and APIs are major security blind spots today, and are
>> increasingly being exploited for supplychain attacks. At the dawn of
>> NIS2 regulatory changes, find out what security practices you need to
>> adopt for your databases and APIs in an on-premises, hybrid and/or
>> multi-cloud environment. This webinar will help you learn more about
>> NIS2, as well as the security methods and tools to comply with it,
>> such as discovery and classification, vulnerability scanning, and
>> behavioral analysis.
>>
>> At Imperva (A Thales Company), Mohamed shares best practices on
>> security and data protection with organizations and companies in
>> France and Southern Europe.
>>
>> 14h35 - Commvault - Fabrice Mazier, Senior Enterprise System Engineer
>> at Commvault
>>
>> Commvault, a leader in the cyber resilience market, has historically
>> been recognized for its data protection solutions.
>>
>> Commvault's unified management platform brings modern security
>> management to OpenVMS environments.
>>
>> Fabrice MAZIER will present these features and the advantages of our
>> offer.
>>
>> 15h05 - User testimonial: Harold Potier PharmaPilot - Walden Group /
>> distribution of healthcare products
>>
>> How to secure a VMS environment in a heterogeneous environment.
>>
>> The use of different technologies helps protect against cyber attacks,
>> because despite the robustness of the system, rebound attacks are
>> possible in this type of environment.
>>
>> 15h35 - VSI - Adam Hoff Nielsen, Sales Director at VMS Software Inc -
>> Darya Zelenina, appointed CEO
>>
>> VMS Software Inc. will present the latest security updates we're
>> working on, and introduce our new CEO, Darya Zelenina, who will
>> discuss what to consider when migrating to x86 from a project
>> management perspective.
>>
>> 16h : Q&A
>>
>> If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact us:
>> contact@vmsgenerations.fr
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your participation,
>>
>> The session will be held in French
>
>
> All the presentations will be held in French?
Yes, including those of Darya and Adam. Darya is a multilangage manager.

But everyone can join us. And ask your questions in English, we'll do
everything to (understand and) translate them. You can also send us
questions before the meeting to help us integrate them.

And we always propose reporting in frensh and in english (but some time
after the meeting).

(We hope seing everyone one day in french and in France).
>
> Thanks, Hans.

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On 2024-02-05, vmsgenerations <contact@vmsgenerations.fr> wrote:
> Yes, including those of Darya and Adam. Darya is a multilangage manager.
>
> But everyone can join us. And ask your questions in English, we'll do
> everything to (understand and) translate them. You can also send us
> questions before the meeting to help us integrate them.
>
> And we always propose reporting in frensh and in english (but some time
> after the meeting).
>
> (We hope seing everyone one day in french and in France).

Hello everyone,

Did anything interesting come out of this meeting ?

Anything on BASIC or Rdb ? Any meaningful security enhancements for VMS ?

Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring these
meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for them. English
is much more of an international common language than French is, even if
French is established as an alternative language in some localised parts
of the world.

Thanks,

Simon.

--
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.

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 by: bill - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 18:37 UTC

On 2/8/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>
> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring
> these

Requiring?

> meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for them.
> English is much more of an international common language than French
> is, even if French is established as an alternative language in some
> localised parts of the world.

Yeah, how dare those damn Frenchman speak french when you don't
understand it. I'll bet the spent the whole time talking about
you.

I suggest you not visit Montreal for vacation, You would have
a very unhappy time. :-)

bill

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 by: Dan Cross - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 20:15 UTC

In article <l2klbmFq410U1@mid.individual.net>,
bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> wrote:
>[snip]
>I suggest you not visit Montreal for vacation, You would have
>a very unhappy time. :-)

I dunno; almost everyone in Montreal speaks English, though they
do kind of act uncool about it if they think that you're
Canadian and don't know French. Once I told them I was American
they were very happy to speak to me in English.

- Dan C.

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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 21:34 UTC

On 2/8/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring these
> meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for them. English
> is much more of an international common language than French is, even if
> French is established as an alternative language in some localised parts
> of the world.

A meeting intended for a global audience should be hold in English.

But I believe this is a meeting with mostly french presenters
targeting a french audience, where they as a gift to the rest
of the world make the content available in English afterwards.

Arne

PS: un, deux, trois, ...

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 by: Chris Townley - Thu, 8 Feb 2024 23:22 UTC

On 08/02/2024 21:34, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 2/8/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring these
>> meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for them. English
>> is much more of an international common language than French is, even if
>> French is established as an alternative language in some localised parts
>> of the world.
>
> A meeting intended for a global audience should be hold in English.
>
> But I believe this is a meeting with mostly french presenters
> targeting a french audience, where they as a gift to the rest
> of the world make the content available in English afterwards.
>
> Arne
>
> PS: un, deux, trois, ...
>
>

Well said sir!

I nearly launched earlier, but I bit my tongue. Merdre!

--
Chris

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 by: bill - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 01:09 UTC

On 2/8/2024 6:22 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
> On 08/02/2024 21:34, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> On 2/8/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring these
>>> meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for them.
>>> English
>>> is much more of an international common language than French is, even if
>>> French is established as an alternative language in some localised parts
>>> of the world.
>>
>> A meeting intended for a global audience should be hold in English.
>>
>> But I believe this is a meeting with mostly french presenters
>> targeting a french audience, where they as a gift to the rest
>> of the world make the content available in English afterwards.
>>
>> Arne
>>
>> PS: un, deux, trois, ...
>>
>>
>
> Well said sir!
>
> I nearly launched earlier, but I bit my tongue. Merdre!
>

I just found the idea rather rude. I thought it was supposed to be
the Americans who thought the whole world should be speaking their
language?

What do you call a person who speaks three languages? Trilingual

What do you call a person who speaks two languages? Bilingual

What do you call a person who speaks only one languages? American

bill

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 by: Chris Townley - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 01:28 UTC

On 09/02/2024 01:09, bill wrote:
> On 2/8/2024 6:22 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
>> On 08/02/2024 21:34, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 2/8/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring these
>>>> meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for them.
>>>> English
>>>> is much more of an international common language than French is,
>>>> even if
>>>> French is established as an alternative language in some localised
>>>> parts
>>>> of the world.
>>>
>>> A meeting intended for a global audience should be hold in English.
>>>
>>> But I believe this is a meeting with mostly french presenters
>>> targeting a french audience, where they as a gift to the rest
>>> of the world make the content available in English afterwards.
>>>
>>> Arne
>>>
>>> PS: un, deux, trois, ...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well said sir!
>>
>> I nearly launched earlier, but I bit my tongue. Merdre!
>>
>
> I just found the idea rather rude.  I thought it was supposed to be
> the Americans who thought the whole world should be speaking their
> language?
>
> What do you call a person who speaks three languages?   Trilingual
>
> What do you call a person who speaks two languages?   Bilingual
>
> What do you call a person who speaks only one languages?   American
>
> bill
>

Agreed. Sadly too many Brits sometimes just shout louder in English

I think it is nice that the French are prepared to send out translations
for those who can't/won't speak their language

--
Chris

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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 01:55 UTC

On 2/8/2024 8:09 PM, bill wrote:
> What do you call a person who speaks three languages?   Trilingual
>
> What do you call a person who speaks two languages?   Bilingual
>
> What do you call a person who speaks only one languages?   American

:-)

VSI is pretty well represented language wise. Per LinkedIn
profiles.

Darya Zelenina:

Dutch
Elementary proficiency
English
Full professional proficiency
Esperanto
Full professional proficiency
French
Limited working proficiency
German
Limited working proficiency
Hebrew
Elementary proficiency
Russian
Native or bilingual proficiency
Swedish
Elementary proficiency
Turkish
Elementary proficiency

Adam Hoff-Nielsen:

Danish
Native or bilingual proficiency
English
Full professional proficiency
French
Professional working proficiency
Japanese
Elementary proficiency
Spanish
Elementary proficiency

Arne

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 by: bill - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 01:56 UTC

On 2/8/2024 8:28 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
> On 09/02/2024 01:09, bill wrote:
>> On 2/8/2024 6:22 PM, Chris Townley wrote:
>>> On 08/02/2024 21:34, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> On 2/8/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring these
>>>>> meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for them.
>>>>> English
>>>>> is much more of an international common language than French is,
>>>>> even if
>>>>> French is established as an alternative language in some localised
>>>>> parts
>>>>> of the world.
>>>>
>>>> A meeting intended for a global audience should be hold in English.
>>>>
>>>> But I believe this is a meeting with mostly french presenters
>>>> targeting a french audience, where they as a gift to the rest
>>>> of the world make the content available in English afterwards.
>>>>
>>>> Arne
>>>>
>>>> PS: un, deux, trois, ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well said sir!
>>>
>>> I nearly launched earlier, but I bit my tongue. Merdre!
>>>
>>
>> I just found the idea rather rude.  I thought it was supposed to be
>> the Americans who thought the whole world should be speaking their
>> language?
>>
>> What do you call a person who speaks three languages?   Trilingual
>>
>> What do you call a person who speaks two languages?   Bilingual
>>
>> What do you call a person who speaks only one languages?   American
>>
>> bill
>>
>
> Agreed. Sadly too many Brits sometimes just shout louder in English
>
> I think it is nice that the French are prepared to send out translations
> for those who can't/won't speak their language
>

A cute anecdote.
I have never considered my French to be beyond the conversational.
About 25 years ago I made a trip to France for the Chartres Pilgrimage.
I found my self frequently translating for English speakers at
souvenir stands but the biggest kick was when one of the people who
ran the facility we stayed at prior to our departure for Chartres told
me my French was better than the Canadians I was traveling with. :-)

Sadly, I don't get to use any of my languages other than English and I
fear the ability is declining even faster than my memory.

bill

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 by: bill - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 01:58 UTC

On 2/8/2024 8:55 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 2/8/2024 8:09 PM, bill wrote:
>> What do you call a person who speaks three languages?   Trilingual
>>
>> What do you call a person who speaks two languages?   Bilingual
>>
>> What do you call a person who speaks only one languages?   American
>
> :-)
>
> VSI is pretty well represented language wise. Per LinkedIn
> profiles.
>
> Darya Zelenina:
>
> Dutch
> Elementary proficiency
> English
> Full professional proficiency
> Esperanto
> Full professional proficiency
> French
> Limited working proficiency
> German
> Limited working proficiency
> Hebrew
> Elementary proficiency
> Russian
> Native or bilingual proficiency
> Swedish
> Elementary proficiency
> Turkish
> Elementary proficiency
>
> Adam Hoff-Nielsen:
>
> Danish
> Native or bilingual proficiency
> English
> Full professional proficiency
> French
> Professional working proficiency
> Japanese
> Elementary proficiency
> Spanish
> Elementary proficiency
>

When Simon asked about Darya speaking French I almost fell
on the floor laughing.

bill

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 by: Single Stage to Orbi - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 10:10 UTC

On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 13:24 +0000, Simon Clubley wrote:
> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring
> these meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for
> them. English is much more of an international common language than
> French is, even if French is established as an alternative language
> in some localised parts of the world.

Non!

I think that event was intended purely for the French audience.

Le reste du monde ne tourne pas autour de l'Amérique du Nord. :-p
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 by: Jan-Erik Söderholm - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 10:15 UTC

Den 2024-02-09 kl. 11:10, skrev Single Stage to Orbit:
> On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 13:24 +0000, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring
>> these meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for
>> them. English is much more of an international common language than
>> French is, even if French is established as an alternative language
>> in some localised parts of the world.
>
> Non!
>
> I think that event was intended purely for the French audience.

Yes, it is. But they are kind enough to send out an invitation
for those that are happy to listen to, and understand enough of,
a french presentation. And the Q/A sessions has before been
mixed french/english depending on who has the Q's.

Simon is simply out of touch with reality here.

>
> Le reste du monde ne tourne pas autour de l'Amérique du Nord. :-p

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 by: Simon Clubley - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 13:08 UTC

On 2024-02-08, bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/8/2024 8:24 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>
>> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring
>> these
>
>
> Requiring?
>
>> meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for them.
>> English is much more of an international common language than French
>> is, even if French is established as an alternative language in some
>> localised parts of the world.
>
> Yeah, how dare those damn Frenchman speak french when you don't
> understand it. I'll bet the spent the whole time talking about
> you.
>

$ set response/mode=good_natured

Well, everyone around here seems to be doing that at the moment. :-)

> I suggest you not visit Montreal for vacation, You would have
> a very unhappy time. :-)
>

Canada is not on my list of places to visit... :-)

[Nothing negative about the country, just nothing really appealing
or exciting about it to me.]

Simon.

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 by: Simon Clubley - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 13:11 UTC

On 2024-02-08, bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> When Simon asked about Darya speaking French I almost fell
> on the floor laughing.
>

Er, Bill, that wasn't me. :-)

Feel free to look up who said it and throw some comments in their
direction if you wish. :-)

Simon.

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 by: Dave Froble - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 15:08 UTC

On 2/9/2024 5:15 AM, Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:

> Simon is simply out of touch with reality here.

Just here ????

:-)

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 by: bill - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 15:48 UTC

On 2/9/2024 5:10 AM, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-02-08 at 13:24 +0000, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> Just as some neutral feedback, personally, I feel that requiring
>> these meetings to be in French heavily restricts the audience for
>> them. English is much more of an international common language than
>> French is, even if French is established as an alternative language
>> in some localised parts of the world.
>
> Non!
>
> I think that event was intended purely for the French audience.
>
> Le reste du monde ne tourne pas autour de l'Amérique du Nord. :-p

Exactement!

bill

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 by: bill - Fri, 9 Feb 2024 15:52 UTC

On 2/9/2024 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2024-02-08, bill <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> When Simon asked about Darya speaking French I almost fell
>> on the floor laughing.
>>
>
> Er, Bill, that wasn't me. :-)
>
> Feel free to look up who said it and throw some comments in their
> direction if you wish. :-)
>
> Simon.
>

Sorry, it was Arne. But the same applies. In her original
intro her ability to speak multiple languageswas mentioned.
At least in the one I saw. :-)

bill

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