Sorry for the multipost, I am really at a loss with this glitch
I have purchased this item
CZUR Shine Ultra Pro 24MP High resolution scanner for books
USB Portable, Documents Scanner with OCR up to A3 format for
home and office, Multilingual OCR viewer
https://www.amazon.it/CZUR-Dimensione-Riconoscimento-Multilingua-Compatibile/dp/B09NLMFQGN/ref=pd_sbs_d_sccl_3_7/258-9789812-9780105?pd_rd_w=7IhIg&content-id=amzn1.sym.a8225e34-6e10-438f-8794-fb84bb393cf4&pf_rd_p=a8225e34-6e10-438f-8794-fb84bb393cf4&pf_rd_r=PFVVAS9BZD4NYDEA0W33&pd_rd_wg=pC8Pr&pd_rd_r=393b1292-05ab-4a5f-8a69-2e65aa78c6cf&pd_rd_i=B09NLMFQGN&th=1
now, I had installed its CD under a VMWare Windows 11, and
it worked all well (a bit slow, but a virtualized CPU / GPU
intensive task is expectedly slower).

Now by mere chance, I discovered there is also a .deb
package and dnld it from CZUR site and installed it in
Debian Bookworm
The SW fails to automatically detect the HW, both launching
the progmam with scanner disconnected and connectint it
afterwards, or the reverse. Also it fails to manually
connect with the main menu.
The strange thing is : Debian correctly reports sth attached
LSUSB¶
....
Bus 001 Device 012: ID 1e4f:2401 ET24A
....
and a very rapidly disappearing "video source" notification
tooltip, of no usefulness, appears on screen on connection.
I just wrote a request on FB page of CZUR, but apart from
that, what could be the problem ?
It is their own recent SW for the very corresponding HW, why
should it fail ?
I am surprised ...

--
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2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
MarioCPPP

On Sun, 25 Feb 2024 11:52:07 -0500, MarioCCCP <NoliMihiFrangereMentulam@libero.it> wrote:

> Sorry for the multipost, I am really at a loss with this glitch
>
> I have purchased this item
>
> CZUR Shine Ultra Pro 24MP High resolution scanner for books
> USB Portable, Documents Scanner with OCR up to A3 format for
> home and office, Multilingual OCR viewer
>
> https://www.amazon.it/CZUR-Dimensione-Riconoscimento-Multilingua-Compatibile/dp/B09NLMFQGN/ref=pd_sbs_d_sccl_3_7/258-9789812-9780105?pd_rd_w=7IhIg&content-id=amzn1.sym.a8225e34-6e10-438f-8794-fb84bb393cf4&pf_rd_p=a8225e34-6e10-438f-8794-fb84bb393cf4&pf_rd_r=PFVVAS9BZD4NYDEA0W33&pd_rd_wg=pC8Pr&pd_rd_r=393b1292-05ab-4a5f-8a69-2e65aa78c6cf&pd_rd_i=B09NLMFQGN&th=1
>
> now, I had installed its CD under a VMWare Windows 11, and
> it worked all well (a bit slow, but a virtualized CPU / GPU
> intensive task is expectedly slower).
>
>
> Now by mere chance, I discovered there is also a .deb
> package and dnld it from CZUR site and installed it in
> Debian Bookworm
>
> The SW fails to automatically detect the HW, both launching
> the progmam with scanner disconnected and connectint it
> afterwards, or the reverse. Also it fails to manually
> connect with the main menu.
>
> The strange thing is : Debian correctly reports sth attached
> LSUSB¶
> ....
> Bus 001 Device 012: ID 1e4f:2401 ET24A
> ....
>
> and a very rapidly disappearing "video source" notification
> tooltip, of no usefulness, appears on screen on connection.
>
> I just wrote a request on FB page of CZUR, but apart from
> that, what could be the problem ?
>
> It is their own recent SW for the very corresponding HW, why
> should it fail ?
>
> I am surprised ...

Most likely reason is either the software is not installed, or the hardware
needs a udev rule.

On my Mageia 9 system ...
# rpm -q -f /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-libsane.rules
sane-backends-1.1.1-4.mga9

Assuming the various "sane" packages have been installed, copy the above
file to "/etc/udev/rules.d/" and add an entry in the /etc copy such as

ATTR{idVendor}=="1e4f", ATTR{idProduct}=="2401", MODE="0644", GROUP="usb", ENV{libsane_matched}="yes"

Then reboot or run "udevadm control --reload-rules && udevadm trigger" (as root).

Regards, Dave Hodgins

On 25/02/2024 17.52, MarioCCCP wrote:
> Sorry for the multipost, I am really at a loss with this glitch

Sorry, you failed, you made a cross post and nothing to be sorry about.

> I have purchased this item
>
> CZUR Shine Ultra Pro 24MP High resolution scanner for books USB
> Portable, Documents Scanner with OCR up to A3 format for home and
> office, Multilingual OCR viewer

> I just wrote a request on FB page of CZUR, but apart from that, what
> could be the problem ?
>
> It is their own recent SW for the very corresponding HW, why should it
> fail ?

The scanner_x86_64_1.7.2312301E.deb, which is the latest I could see
anyone refer to do not supply an udev file for your scanner, check
/etc/udev/rules.d/ and you will find

czur_1101.rules
czur_1616.rules
czur_et.rules

you will need to have one like for example czur_2401.rules:
SUBSYSTEM==”usb” ,
ATTRS{idVendor}==”04fc” ,
ATTRS{idProduct}==”2401” ,
MODE="0666"

then run: sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo udevadm trigger

If still not working, you may have to copy some files form the
ms-windows install, should be called something like czcv000*_0*.{bin|xml|ex}

In the Linux install you find those in /opt/scanner/

also the file /opt/scanner/dev_list.bin may not support your scanner.

You will have to experiment and see if you get it to work and hope CZUR
comes back and have a later beta version that supports your scanner.

--
//Aho

On 2/25/2024 4:07 PM, J.O. Aho wrote:
> On 25/02/2024 17.52, MarioCCCP wrote:
>> Sorry for the multipost, I am really at a loss with this glitch
>
> Sorry, you failed, you made a cross post and nothing to be sorry about.
>
>> I have purchased this item
>>
>> CZUR Shine Ultra Pro 24MP High resolution scanner for books USB Portable, Documents Scanner with OCR up to A3 format for home and office, Multilingual OCR viewer
>
>> I just wrote a request on FB page of CZUR, but apart from that, what could be the problem ?
>>
>> It is their own recent SW for the very corresponding HW, why should it fail ?
>
> The scanner_x86_64_1.7.2312301E.deb, which is the latest I could see anyone refer to do not supply an udev file for your scanner, check /etc/udev/rules.d/ and you will find
>
> czur_1101.rules
> czur_1616.rules
> czur_et.rules
>
> you will need to have one like for example czur_2401.rules:
> SUBSYSTEM==”usb” ,
> ATTRS{idVendor}==”04fc” ,
> ATTRS{idProduct}==”2401” ,
> MODE="0666"
>
>
> then run:  sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo udevadm trigger
>
> If still not working, you may have to copy some files form the ms-windows install, should be called something like czcv000*_0*.{bin|xml|ex}
>
> In the Linux install you find those in /opt/scanner/
>
> also the file /opt/scanner/dev_list.bin may not support your scanner.
>
>
> You will have to experiment and see if you get it to work and hope CZUR comes back and have a later beta version that supports your scanner.
>

https://resource.czur-files.com/software/windows/install/CZUR_Shine_Setup_RLS_V2.2.240123.zip

Use archive manager, unzip the ZIP file, to reveal the EXE.
InnoExtract, there is a version for Linux in the repository.

Name: CZUR_Shine_Setup_RLS_V2.2.240123.exe
Size: 626,496,624 bytes (597 MiB)
SHA256: BE936A6C4129EE166180C96D187F419F34BCE6ECCE35A6A917811F070A14FB64

Next:

sudo apt install innoextract
mkdir work
mv CZUR_Shine_Setup_RLS_V2.2.240123.exe work
cd work
innoextract CZUR_Shine_Setup_RLS_V2.2.240123.exe

This gives two folders App and Tmp

Name: czcv_scan.dll
Size: 13811440 bytes (13 MiB)
SHA256: 07438D8C9B4CAA3F8D95BD3E882FD3636D7F5F5358470DC2228201242F90D0EB

dewarp_by_edge_a3 <=== scan in virustotal.com to get the Exports.
recog_text_rotation This has nothing to do with the camera, it could be OpenCV.
release_all_models
remove_finger
rotate_image

Name: SonixCamera.dll
Size: 127568 bytes (124 KiB)
SHA256: 2DB4D77CDF4B4476A1DA2AA2D07570E46EA3F29B8160E7ED011ECD632A276744

SonixCam_AsicRegisterRead <=== scan in virustotal.com to get the Exports.
SonixCam_AsicRegisterWrite Firmware management for the Asic running the camera sensor.
SonixCam_BurnerFw Does not appear to run the camera itself.
SonixCam_ExportFw
SonixCam_GetAsicRomType
SonixCam_GetErrorCode
SonixCam_GetFwVersion
SonixCam_GetManufacturer
SonixCam_GetProduct
SonixCam_GetSerialFlashType
SonixCam_GetVidPid
SonixCam_Init
SonixCam_SensorRegisterCustomRead
SonixCam_SensorRegisterCustomWrite
SonixCam_SensorRegisterRead
SonixCam_SensorRegisterWrite
SonixCam_SerialFlashCustomRead
SonixCam_SerialFlashRead
SonixCam_SerialFlashSectorCustomWrite
SonixCam_SerialFlashSectorWrite
SonixCam_UnInit

Your czcv000*_0*.{bin) type thing, is inside App/Model

Paul

On 2/25/2024 11:45 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 2/25/2024 4:07 PM, J.O. Aho wrote:
>> On 25/02/2024 17.52, MarioCCCP wrote:
>>> Sorry for the multipost, I am really at a loss with this glitch
>>
>> Sorry, you failed, you made a cross post and nothing to be sorry about.
>>
>>> I have purchased this item
>>>
>>> CZUR Shine Ultra Pro 24MP High resolution scanner for books USB Portable, Documents Scanner with OCR up to A3 format for home and office, Multilingual OCR viewer
>>
>>> I just wrote a request on FB page of CZUR, but apart from that, what could be the problem ?
>>>
>>> It is their own recent SW for the very corresponding HW, why should it fail ?
>>
>> The scanner_x86_64_1.7.2312301E.deb, which is the latest I could see anyone refer to do not supply an udev file for your scanner, check /etc/udev/rules.d/ and you will find
>>
>> czur_1101.rules
>> czur_1616.rules
>> czur_et.rules
>>
>> you will need to have one like for example czur_2401.rules:
>> SUBSYSTEM==”usb” ,
>> ATTRS{idVendor}==”04fc” ,
>> ATTRS{idProduct}==”2401” ,
>> MODE="0666"
>>
>>
>> then run:  sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo udevadm trigger
>>
>> If still not working, you may have to copy some files form the ms-windows install, should be called something like czcv000*_0*.{bin|xml|ex}
>>
>> In the Linux install you find those in /opt/scanner/
>>
>> also the file /opt/scanner/dev_list.bin may not support your scanner.
>>
>>
>> You will have to experiment and see if you get it to work and hope CZUR comes back and have a later beta version that supports your scanner.
>>

"Czur ET24 Pro first impressions"

https://diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3696&start=20

It seems one model uses a laser for page straightening, while the
other model does not.

"One frustration with the CZUR devices is that each one has its own application.
So since I have three devices, I have three applications. As their product line
grows, older devices won't get as much attention or updates to their applications.
It would be wiser to have a single application that can detect the device and
show the features that apply to it. Then as new features are developed, they can
be available to the older devices. CZUR seems unlikely to adopt this, however.
It's a bit like having a company that makes webcams and none of them are really
compatible with the other. Each has their own software/driver. A lot of
niche peripherals run into this problem."

Paul

On 25/02/24 22:07, J.O. Aho wrote:
> On 25/02/2024 17.52, MarioCCCP wrote:
>> Sorry for the multipost, I am really at a loss with this
>> glitch
>
> Sorry, you failed, you made a cross post and nothing to be
> sorry about.
>
>> I have purchased this item
>>
>> CZUR Shine Ultra Pro 24MP High resolution scanner for
>> books USB Portable, Documents Scanner with OCR up to A3
>> format for home and office, Multilingual OCR viewer
>
>> I just wrote a request on FB page of CZUR, but apart from
>> that, what could be the problem ?
>>
>> It is their own recent SW for the very corresponding HW,
>> why should it fail ?
>
> The scanner_x86_64_1.7.2312301E.deb, which is the latest I
> could see anyone refer to do not supply an udev file for
> your scanner, check /etc/udev/rules.d/ and you will find
>
> czur_1101.rules
> czur_1616.rules
> czur_et.rules
>
> you will need to have one like for example czur_2401.rules:
> SUBSYSTEM==”usb” ,
> ATTRS{idVendor}==”04fc” ,
> ATTRS{idProduct}==”2401” ,
> MODE="0666"
>
>
> then run:  sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo
> udevadm trigger
>
tnx, first of all.
I run the above. A lot of lightening fast notifications of
detection of sth appeared.
The SW from CZUR still does not detect the scanner, neighter
auto nor manually, running the SW before or after the command.

> If still not working, you may have to copy some files form
> the ms-windows install, should be called something like
> czcv000*_0*.{bin|xml|ex}
too complicated.
I discovered that WEBCAMOID detects it and is able to take
screenshots, but has misterious a huge latency (if I put sth
under the scanner, it updates the screen after MANY seconds).
If I run its native SW under windows 11 virtual machine,
despite having just two cores assigned and 24 GB, the update
is REALTIME, and the latency between screenshots of a few
seconds. Actually it is the page orientation corrector and
borders detector that cause some lag : a single A4 page lags
not at all (but I scan A4 notebooks badly folded).

>
> In the Linux install you find those in /opt/scanner/
>
> also the file /opt/scanner/dev_list.bin may not support your
> scanner.
>
>
> You will have to experiment and see if you get it to work
> and hope CZUR comes back and have a later beta version that
> supports your scanner.
now I read the advices from Paul ...
TNX anyway

--
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
MarioCPPP

On 26/02/24 05:45, Paul wrote:
> On 2/25/2024 4:07 PM, J.O. Aho wrote:
>> On 25/02/2024 17.52, MarioCCCP wrote:
>>> Sorry for the multipost, I am really at a loss with this glitch
>>
>> Sorry, you failed, you made a cross post and nothing to be sorry about.
>>
>>> I have purchased this item
>>>
>>> CZUR Shine Ultra Pro 24MP High resolution scanner for books USB Portable, Documents Scanner with OCR up to A3 format for home and office, Multilingual OCR viewer
>>
>>> I just wrote a request on FB page of CZUR, but apart from that, what could be the problem ?
>>>
>>> It is their own recent SW for the very corresponding HW, why should it fail ?
>>
>> The scanner_x86_64_1.7.2312301E.deb, which is the latest I could see anyone refer to do not supply an udev file for your scanner, check /etc/udev/rules.d/ and you will find
>>
>> czur_1101.rules
>> czur_1616.rules
>> czur_et.rules
>>
>> you will need to have one like for example czur_2401.rules:
>> SUBSYSTEM==”usb” ,
>> ATTRS{idVendor}==”04fc” ,
>> ATTRS{idProduct}==”2401” ,
>> MODE="0666"
>>
>>
>> then run:  sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo udevadm trigger
>>
>> If still not working, you may have to copy some files form the ms-windows install, should be called something like czcv000*_0*.{bin|xml|ex}
>>
>> In the Linux install you find those in /opt/scanner/
>>
>> also the file /opt/scanner/dev_list.bin may not support your scanner.
>>
>>
>> You will have to experiment and see if you get it to work and hope CZUR comes back and have a later beta version that supports your scanner.
>>
>
> https://resource.czur-files.com/software/windows/install/CZUR_Shine_Setup_RLS_V2.2.240123.zip
but for windows I have no problem : I just used the bundled
CD with an installer (it requires the Seriel Number of the
product to run ! But no problem, it is printed in the base
of the scanner)

> Use archive manager, unzip the ZIP file, to reveal the EXE.
> InnoExtract, there is a version for Linux in the repository.
>
> Name: CZUR_Shine_Setup_RLS_V2.2.240123.exe
> Size: 626,496,624 bytes (597 MiB)
> SHA256: BE936A6C4129EE166180C96D187F419F34BCE6ECCE35A6A917811F070A14FB64
>
> Next:
>
> sudo apt install innoextract
> mkdir work
> mv CZUR_Shine_Setup_RLS_V2.2.240123.exe work
> cd work
> innoextract CZUR_Shine_Setup_RLS_V2.2.240123.exe

Uh, I misunderstood ... what about trying to run the DVD
installer under WINE ? (I'm skeptical it would work)
>
> This gives two folders App and Tmp
>
> Name: czcv_scan.dll
> Size: 13811440 bytes (13 MiB)
> SHA256: 07438D8C9B4CAA3F8D95BD3E882FD3636D7F5F5358470DC2228201242F90D0EB
>
> dewarp_by_edge_a3 <=== scan in virustotal.com to get the Exports.
> recog_text_rotation This has nothing to do with the camera, it could be OpenCV.
> release_all_models
> remove_finger
> rotate_image
>
> Name: SonixCamera.dll
> Size: 127568 bytes (124 KiB)
> SHA256: 2DB4D77CDF4B4476A1DA2AA2D07570E46EA3F29B8160E7ED011ECD632A276744
>
> SonixCam_AsicRegisterRead <=== scan in virustotal.com to get the Exports.
> SonixCam_AsicRegisterWrite Firmware management for the Asic running the camera sensor.
> SonixCam_BurnerFw Does not appear to run the camera itself.
> SonixCam_ExportFw
> SonixCam_GetAsicRomType
> SonixCam_GetErrorCode
> SonixCam_GetFwVersion
> SonixCam_GetManufacturer
> SonixCam_GetProduct
> SonixCam_GetSerialFlashType
> SonixCam_GetVidPid
> SonixCam_Init
> SonixCam_SensorRegisterCustomRead
> SonixCam_SensorRegisterCustomWrite
> SonixCam_SensorRegisterRead
> SonixCam_SensorRegisterWrite
> SonixCam_SerialFlashCustomRead
> SonixCam_SerialFlashRead
> SonixCam_SerialFlashSectorCustomWrite
> SonixCam_SerialFlashSectorWrite
> SonixCam_UnInit
what am I supposed to do with that stuff ?
what do you thing about giving a chance to Wine and the
original installer ?
>
> Your czcv000*_0*.{bin) type thing, is inside App/Model
>
> Paul
--
1) Resistere, resistere, resistere.
2) Se tutti pagano le tasse, le tasse le pagano tutti
MarioCPPP

On 2/26/2024 8:11 AM, MarioCCCP wrote:
> On 25/02/24 22:07, J.O. Aho wrote:
>> On 25/02/2024 17.52, MarioCCCP wrote:
>>> Sorry for the multipost, I am really at a loss with this glitch
>>
>> Sorry, you failed, you made a cross post and nothing to be sorry about.
>>
>>> I have purchased this item
>>>
>>> CZUR Shine Ultra Pro 24MP High resolution scanner for books USB Portable, Documents Scanner with OCR up to A3 format for home and office, Multilingual OCR viewer
>>
>>> I just wrote a request on FB page of CZUR, but apart from that, what could be the problem ?
>>>
>>> It is their own recent SW for the very corresponding HW, why should it fail ?
>>
>> The scanner_x86_64_1.7.2312301E.deb, which is the latest I could see anyone refer to do not supply an udev file for your scanner, check /etc/udev/rules.d/ and you will find
>>
>> czur_1101.rules
>> czur_1616.rules
>> czur_et.rules
>>
>> you will need to have one like for example czur_2401.rules:
>> SUBSYSTEM==”usb” ,
>> ATTRS{idVendor}==”04fc” ,
>> ATTRS{idProduct}==”2401” ,
>> MODE="0666"
>>
>>
>> then run:  sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo udevadm trigger
>>
>
> tnx, first of all.
>
> I run the above. A lot of lightening fast notifications of detection of sth appeared.
>
> The SW from CZUR still does not detect the scanner, neighter auto nor manually, running the SW before or after the command.
>
>
>> If still not working, you may have to copy some files form the ms-windows install, should be called something like czcv000*_0*.{bin|xml|ex}
>
> too complicated.
> I discovered that WEBCAMOID detects it and is able to take screenshots, but has misterious a huge latency (if I put sth under the scanner, it updates the screen after MANY seconds).
> If I run its native SW under windows 11 virtual machine, despite having just two cores assigned and 24 GB, the update is REALTIME, and the latency between screenshots of a few seconds. Actually it is the page orientation corrector and borders detector that cause some lag : a single A4 page lags not at all (but I scan A4 notebooks badly folded).
>
>
>
>>
>> In the Linux install you find those in /opt/scanner/
>>
>> also the file /opt/scanner/dev_list.bin may not support your scanner.
>>
>>
>> You will have to experiment and see if you get it to work and hope CZUR comes back and have a later beta version that supports your scanner.
>
> now I read the advices from Paul ...
> TNX anyway

While in Windows, you can use this:

https://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtreeview_e.html

https://www.uwe-sieber.de/files/UsbTreeView_x64.zip

What that does, is it displays the config space of hardware
in USB ports.

That takes the place of Microsoft USBView and UVCView (more
or less different versions of the same thing).

The speed difference may have something to do with the
undocumented SonixAsic (Application Specific Integrated Circuit).

The .deb file is unlikely to control all the CZUR designs.
You would need a .deb specifically for the "Shine Ultra Pro",
and it's hard to predict whether some cosmetic changes to the
material the .deb installed will be sufficient to make it work.

Some of the software senses serial number. The serial number is
likely a token to make the software work.

Paul