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* OT Thunderbird Supernova, threaded message display and BetterbirdStephen Fuld
`- Re: OT Thunderbird Supernova, threaded message display and BetterbirdTerje Mathisen

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From: sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid (Stephen Fuld)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: OT Thunderbird Supernova, threaded message display and Betterbird
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2023 09:15:54 -0700
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 by: Stephen Fuld - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 16:15 UTC

Background: I have been using Thunderbird for e-mail and newsgroup
access for many years. While it has some issues, I have been generally
happy with it. Recently, the Thunderbird team has released a new
version, 115, code named Supernova. Its primary claimed advantage was a
complete rewrite of the UI code to make it easier to maintain, and add
some features. After waiting a few weeks to verify there were no
showstopper bugs reported, I installed it.

Issue: one of the changes to the UI was that they eliminated the
vertical and horizontal lines in the message header pane that
graphically indicated threading. As anyone who posts here realizes, our
threads often get very deep, with lots of nested sub threads, etc. I
really liked the display as, for example, it eased finding the
"ancestor" of a post.

When I asked about this in the Thunderbird help forum, the responses
indicated that the developers had removed the feature, and it seems like
it won't be back soon.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1829470

Another responder suggested moving to Betterbird, saying that they had
added that feature back.

https://betterbird.eu/index.html

So, my question. Does anyone here have experience with Betterbird
and/or opinions about it?

--
- Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

Re: OT Thunderbird Supernova, threaded message display and Betterbird

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From: terje.mathisen@tmsw.no (Terje Mathisen)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: OT Thunderbird Supernova, threaded message display and Betterbird
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 by: Terje Mathisen - Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:28 UTC

Stephen Fuld wrote:
> Background:    I have been using Thunderbird for e-mail and newsgroup
> access for many years.  While it has some issues, I have been generally
> happy with it.  Recently, the Thunderbird team has released a new
> version, 115, code named Supernova.  Its primary claimed advantage was a
> complete rewrite of the UI code to make it easier to maintain, and add
> some features.  After waiting a few weeks to verify there were no
> showstopper bugs reported, I installed it.
>
> Issue: one of the changes to the UI was that they eliminated the
> vertical and horizontal lines in the message header pane that
> graphically indicated threading.  As anyone who posts here realizes, our
> threads often get very deep, with lots of nested sub threads, etc.  I
> really liked the display as, for example, it eased finding the
> "ancestor" of a post.
>
> When I asked about this in the Thunderbird help forum, the responses
> indicated that the developers had removed the feature, and it seems like
> it won't be back soon.
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1829470
>
> Another responder suggested moving to Betterbird, saying that they had
> added that feature back.
>
> https://betterbird.eu/index.html
>
>
> So, my question.  Does anyone here have experience with Betterbird
> and/or opinions about it?

No opinion on betterbird, but since I'm using SeaMonkey which gets its
mail/news component from mozilla/thunderbird, I guess I might be in the
market soon, so thanks for the link!

Terje

--
- <Terje.Mathisen at tmsw.no>
"almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"

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