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* NoCeM, pl.* and false positivesAdam W.
+- NoCeM, pl.* and false positivesllp
`- NoCeM, pl.* and false positivesRetro Guy

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NoCeM, pl.* and false positives

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From: gof-cut-this-news@cut-this-chmurka.net.invalid (Adam W.)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: NoCeM, pl.* and false positives
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 21:10:01 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Adam W. - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 21:10 UTC

Hi!

I finally made the solution to repost cancelled articles to my local
groups (chmurka.spam.*, available on news.chmurka.net). I process notices
from three sources:

- Eternal September
- usenet.ovh
- i2pn2

I saw no false positives from Eternal September (great! But it might be
also that they were already cancelled by usenet.ovh or i2pn2 and that's
why I didn't catch them in Eternal September's notices), but considerable
amount of them from usenet.ovh and i2pn2. Worth to take a look:

i2pn2:

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Re: NoCeM, pl.* and false positives

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From: llp@news.usenet.ovh (llp)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: NoCeM, pl.* and false positives
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 23:42:22 +0200
Organization: Alfa Network En Travaux
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 by: llp - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 21:42 UTC

Hi,

Adam W. avait prétendu :
> Hi!
>
> I finally made the solution to repost cancelled articles to my local
> groups (chmurka.spam.*, available on news.chmurka.net). I process notices
> from three sources:
>
> - Eternal September
> - usenet.ovh
> - i2pn2
>
> I saw no false positives from Eternal September (great! But it might be
> also that they were already cancelled by usenet.ovh or i2pn2 and that's
> why I didn't catch them in Eternal September's notices), but considerable
> amount of them from usenet.ovh and i2pn2. Worth to take a look:

Since a few days, nocembot detect spam in all hierarchies.
But i found a tipo in utf-8 spam détection messages.
Please, tell me if you found new false positive.
The goal is to reach 0% false positive like in fr and big8 hierarchies.

Admin of news.usenet.ovh

Re: NoCeM, pl.* and false positives

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Subject: Re: NoCeM, pl.* and false positives
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 by: Retro Guy - Sat, 21 Oct 2023 21:46 UTC

Adam W. wrote:

> Hi!

> I finally made the solution to repost cancelled articles to my local
> groups (chmurka.spam.*, available on news.chmurka.net). I process notices
> from three sources:

Very nice! I save to a .mbox file that I scroll through, which can be
monotonous but somewhat helpful.

> I saw no false positives from Eternal September (great! But it might be
> also that they were already cancelled by usenet.ovh or i2pn2 and that's
> why I didn't catch them in Eternal September's notices), but considerable
> amount of them from usenet.ovh and i2pn2. Worth to take a look:

It looks like the rule I had set in spamassassin detecting empty posts
probably accounts for most of these. (See discussion in e-s.support 'False
positives in spam filter?'. I removed that rule yesterday.

Considering we're sending out NoCeMs for close to 50,000 posts per day
(yesterday was 50,746 for i2pn2), there could be a few false positives that
I don't notice in the .mbox.

It is VERY helpful that someone let's us (NoCeM sources) know if/when they
see a few false positives. I've been pretty much dependent on only myself
to try to make my filtering work well, so thanks for posting!

--
Retro Guy

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