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* Python x86-64Arne Vajhøj
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From: arne@vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
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Subject: Python x86-64
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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 01:15 UTC

https://vmssoftware.com/products/python/

X86VMS-PYTHON-A0310-0-REL008-1.ZIP

Arne

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Subject: Re: Python x86-64
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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 01:27 UTC

On 4/8/2024 9:15 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> https://vmssoftware.com/products/python/
>
> X86VMS-PYTHON-A0310-0-REL008-1.ZIP

$ python
Python 3.10.0 (default, Feb 21 2024, 05:22:10) [C] on OpenVMS
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> print('Hello world!')
Hello world!
>>>

Arne

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From: arne@vajhoej.dk (Arne Vajhøj)
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Subject: Re: Python x86-64
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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 01:34 UTC

On 4/8/2024 9:27 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 4/8/2024 9:15 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>> https://vmssoftware.com/products/python/
>>
>> X86VMS-PYTHON-A0310-0-REL008-1.ZIP
>
> $ python
> Python 3.10.0 (default, Feb 21 2024, 05:22:10) [C] on OpenVMS
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> print('Hello world!')
> Hello world!
> >>>

One interesting thing in wheels package:

>>> import rdb
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
File "/python$root/lib/python3.10/rdb.py", line 1, in <module>
from _rdb import *
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named '_rdb'

Looks like Rdb is expected (but obviously not ready yet).

Arne

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From: news@cct-net.co.uk (Chris Townley)
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Subject: Re: Python x86-64
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 by: Chris Townley - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 10:48 UTC

On 09/04/2024 02:15, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> https://vmssoftware.com/products/python/
>
> X86VMS-PYTHON-A0310-0-REL008-1.ZIP
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> Arne

The laugh is that, according to the release notes, it will not run on
the CL VMDK, as that doesn't have 9.2-2 update 1

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Chris

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 by: Single Stage to Orbi - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 11:09 UTC

On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 11:48 +0100, Chris Townley wrote:
> The laugh is that, according to the release notes, it will not run on
> the CL VMDK, as that doesn't have 9.2-2 update 1

Oh dear. I hope they relent and provide updates.
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Re: Python x86-64

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 by: Simon Clubley - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 12:49 UTC

On 2024-04-08, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
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>
> X86VMS-PYTHON-A0310-0-REL008-1.ZIP
>

Good news.

I wonder how long it will be before someone asks for Python 2.7 on VMS ? :-)

Simon.

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 by: Single Stage to Orbi - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 13:10 UTC

On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 12:49 +0000, Simon Clubley wrote:

> I wonder how long it will be before someone asks for Python 2.7 on
> VMS ? :-)

I really hope not. We should have migrated to 3.x by now, it's been 10
years.
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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 19:30 UTC

On 4/9/2024 8:49 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2024-04-08, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
>> https://vmssoftware.com/products/python/
>>
>> X86VMS-PYTHON-A0310-0-REL008-1.ZIP
>
> Good news.
>
> I wonder how long it will be before someone asks for Python 2.7 on VMS ? :-)

It exist on VMS Alpha and VMS Itanium.

Will probably never exist on VMS x86-64.

In CPython flavor that is.

Jython 2.7 has run fine on VMS x86-64 since Java became
available.

$ python
Python 3.10.0 (default, Feb 21 2024, 05:22:10) [C] on OpenVMS
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> print "hi"
File "<stdin>", line 1
print "hi"
^^^^^^^^^^
SyntaxError: Missing parentheses in call to 'print'. Did you mean
print(...)?
>>>

$ jython
org.python WARNING console: Failed to install
'org.python.util.InteractiveConsole': does not implement interface
org.python.core.Con
sole.
Jython 2.7.3 (tags/v2.7.3:5f29801fe, Sep 10 2022, 18:52:49)
[OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (VMS Software, Inc)] on java1.8.0_372
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> print "hi"
hi
>>> Exit
$

Arne

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 by: Single Stage to Orbi - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 15:58 UTC

On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 14:10 +0100, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 12:49 +0000, Simon Clubley wrote:
>
> > I wonder how long it will be before someone asks for Python 2.7 on
> > VMS ? :-)
>
> I really hope not. We should have migrated to 3.x by now, it's been
> 10 years.

I know what I said but I just got bit in the arse with a software
package that still needed Python 2.7. I just don't have the time to
update it to use Python 3.x. <roll eyes>
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 by: Simon Clubley - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 17:26 UTC

On 2024-04-10, Single Stage to Orbit <alex.buell@munted.eu> wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 14:10 +0100, Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
>> On Tue, 2024-04-09 at 12:49 +0000, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>
>> > I wonder how long it will be before someone asks for Python 2.7 on
>> > VMS ? :-)
>>
>> I really hope not. We should have migrated to 3.x by now, it's been
>> 10 years.
>
> I know what I said but I just got bit in the arse with a software
> package that still needed Python 2.7. I just don't have the time to
> update it to use Python 3.x. <roll eyes>

There is a Python 2 to Python 3 conversion script as part of Python 3,
but it is not perfect. The thing it got wrong for me was when it converted
code that issues a prompt and then waits for input without an intermediate
CRLF.

Simon.

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 by: Single Stage to Orbi - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 23:28 UTC

On Wed, 2024-04-10 at 17:26 +0000, Simon Clubley wrote:
> > I know what I said but I just got bit in the arse with a software
> > package that still needed Python 2.7. I just don't have the time to
> > update it to use Python 3.x. <roll eyes>
>
> There is a Python 2 to Python 3 conversion script as part of Python
> 3, but it is not perfect. The thing it got wrong for me was when it
> converted code that issues a prompt and then waits for input without
> an intermediate CRLF.

Nice one, thanks, I will give that a try at some point and maybe send
patches upstream for the package.
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