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* Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Nigel Reed
+* Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Jesse Rehmer
|+- Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Andrew
|+- Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?D
|`* Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Nigel Reed
| `* Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Andrew
|  +- Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Andrew
|  `* Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?David Ritz
|   `* Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Nigel Reed
|    `* Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?David Ritz
|     `* Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Jesse Rehmer
|      `* Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?David Ritz
|       `- Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Jesse Rehmer
+- Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?Adam W.
+- Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?D
`- Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?yamo'

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Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?

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From: sysop@endofthelinebbs.com (Nigel Reed)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 01:19:45 -0600
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 by: Nigel Reed - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 07:19 UTC

Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to

https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

To get the pgp however the site times out.

What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$1@rasp.pasdenom.info

--
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?

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From: jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com (Jesse Rehmer)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Jesse Rehmer - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28 UTC

On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed" <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com>
wrote:

> Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
>
> https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
>
> To get the pgp however the site times out.
>
> What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
>
> Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$1@rasp.pasdenom.info

Site loads fine here.

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From: Doug@hyperspace.vogon.gov (Andrew)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 14:36:02 +0100
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 by: Andrew - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 13:36 UTC

Jesse Rehmer wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed" <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
>>
>> https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
>>
>> To get the pgp however the site times out.
>>
>> What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
>>
>> Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$1@rasp.pasdenom.info
>
> Site loads fine here.
>

I went there out of idle curiosity and even the "The public key can be
imported from:" link worked just fine. This was with Seamonkey, a
browser which has timeout problems with a fair proportion of sites.

Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?

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 by: D - Sat, 11 Nov 2023 14:18 UTC

On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC), Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
>On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45?AM CST, "Nigel Reed" <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
>> Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
>> https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
>> To get the pgp however the site times out.
>> What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
>> Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$1@rasp.pasdenom.info
>
>Site loads fine here.

(using Tor Browser 13.0.1)
https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
>NoceM issued by pasdenom.info
>robot@pasdenom.info sends NoCems of the type:
>site -> rare manual notices
>spam -> 99.99% spam
>spam2 -> spam with rare false positives
>spam3 -> spam with false positives
>spam4 -> spam with slightly more false positives
>The types spam, spam2, spam3 and spam4 get a score from spamassassin,
>the higher the number the lower the threshold, the greater the risk
>of a legitimate article being considered spam.
>The public key can be imported from:nono.asc
>https://pasdenom.info/gpg/nono.asc
>Here is an example of a note
>http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165087803400
[end quote]

...@googlegroups... = ...@googlespam...

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From: sysop@endofthelinebbs.com (Nigel Reed)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 02:31:00 -0600
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 by: Nigel Reed - Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:31 UTC

On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:

> On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
> <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
>
> > Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
> >
> > https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
> >
> > To get the pgp however the site times out.
> >
> > What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
> >
> > Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$1@rasp.pasdenom.info
>
> Site loads fine here.

Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.

--
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?

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From: Doug@hyperspace.vogon.gov (Andrew)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:45:57 +0100
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 by: Andrew - Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:45 UTC

Nigel Reed wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
> Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
>> <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
>>>
>>> https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
>>>
>>> To get the pgp however the site times out.
>>>
>>> What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
>>>
>>> Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$1@rasp.pasdenom.info
>>
>> Site loads fine here.
>
> Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
> systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
> up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.
>

What does traceroute say?

It won't be incredibly helpful, I did a "ping -c 4 pasdenom.info" and
saw that the site appears to eat "ping" requests.

sudo traceroute pasdenom.info
[sudo] password for root:
traceroute to pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1) 0.343 ms 0.284 ms 0.381 ms
2 * * *
3 [city gateway for my ISP] 12.066 ms 12.033 ms 17.131 ms
4 145.253.48.220 (145.253.48.220) 19.395 ms 25.272 ms 19.327 ms
5 decix.proxad.net (80.81.192.223) 18.085 ms 18.051 ms 17.071 ms

And that was it. My browser was happy connecting to the site during
these tests and I assume my problem is that the site rejects pings.

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Subject: Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:08:57 +0100
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 by: Andrew - Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:08 UTC

Andrew wrote:
> Nigel Reed wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
>> Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
>>> <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
>>>>
>>>> https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
>>>>
>>>> To get the pgp however the site times out.
>>>>
>>>> What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
>>>>
>>>> Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$1@rasp.pasdenom.info
>>>
>>> Site loads fine here.
>>
>> Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
>> systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
>> up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.
>>
>
> What does traceroute say?
>
> It won't be incredibly helpful, I did a "ping -c 4 pasdenom.info" and
> saw that the site appears to eat "ping" requests.
>
> sudo traceroute pasdenom.info
> [sudo] password for root:
> traceroute to pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
>  1  192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1)  0.343 ms  0.284 ms  0.381 ms
>  2  * * *
>  3  [city gateway for my ISP]  12.066 ms  12.033 ms  17.131 ms
>  4  145.253.48.220 (145.253.48.220)  19.395 ms  25.272 ms  19.327 ms
>  5  decix.proxad.net (80.81.192.223)  18.085 ms  18.051 ms  17.071 ms
>
> And that was it.  My browser was happy connecting to the site during
> these tests and I assume my problem is that the site rejects pings.

Sorry, what I meant to add is that I had a similar problem with one site
a year or two ago. It was the update repository for my Linux
distribution so this was a really big deal after a couple of days. This
turned out to be a "you can't get there from here via that route" problem.
Unfortunately I can't find out (or remember) how I fixed it.
https://forums.opensuse.org/t/unable-to-connect-to-repositories/120346/16
looks to be essentially the same problem (and the one that I had), their
solution was to turn the router off and then on again.

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 by: David Ritz - Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:51 UTC

On Sunday, 12 November 2023 13:45 +0100,
in article <uiqhe6$2qu5h$1@paganini.bofh.team>,
Andrew <Doug@hyperspace.vogon.gov> wrote:

> Nigel Reed wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 11:28:04 -0000 (UTC)
> > Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Nov 11, 2023 at 1:19:45 AM CST, "Nigel Reed"
> > > <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
> > > >
> > > > https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html
> > > >
> > > > To get the pgp however the site times out.
> > > >
> > > > What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?
> > > >
> > > > Ref: message-id uim0br$uu$1@rasp.pasdenom.info
> > >
> > > Site loads fine here.
> >
> > Add, I tried it on a couple of browsers on a couple of operating
> > systems and no dice. I tried lynx on a a different server and it pulls
> > up. Maybe my IP block is firewalled or something.
> >
>
> What does traceroute say?
>
> It won't be incredibly helpful, I did a "ping -c 4 pasdenom.info" and saw that
> the site appears to eat "ping" requests.
>
> sudo traceroute pasdenom.info
> [sudo] password for root:
> traceroute to pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> 1 192.168.178.1 (192.168.178.1) 0.343 ms 0.284 ms 0.381 ms
> 2 * * *
> 3 [city gateway for my ISP] 12.066 ms 12.033 ms 17.131 ms
> 4 145.253.48.220 (145.253.48.220) 19.395 ms 25.272 ms 19.327 ms
> 5 decix.proxad.net (80.81.192.223) 18.085 ms 18.051 ms 17.071 ms
>
> And that was it. My browser was happy connecting to the site during these
> tests and I assume my problem is that the site rejects pings.

$ dig +short NS pasdenom.info
ns-188-a.gandi.net.
ns-181-c.gandi.net.
ns-217-b.gandi.net.

$ dig pasdenom.info @ns-181-c.gandi.net | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A
pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35

$ ping -c2 82.66.60.35
PING 82.66.60.35 (82.66.60.35) 56(84) bytes of data.

--- 82.66.60.35 ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 999ms

$ mtr -nrz 82.66.60.35
Start: Sun Nov 12 19:32:11 2023
HOST: X-X Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
[...]
10. AS1299 62.115.118.63 0.0% 10 8.2 22.1 7.8 140.3 41.6
11. AS1299 62.115.46.69 0.0% 10 7.9 8.1 7.9 8.4 0.0
12. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

% mtr -nrzP 119 119 82.66.60.35
Start: 2023-11-12T14:46:10-0500
[...]
Start: 2023-11-12T14:46:28-0500
HOST: X.X.X Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
[...]]
7. AS174 130.117.3.34 0.0% 10 77.6 77.8 77.5 78.3 0.2
8. AS174 149.11.115.14 0.0% 10 81.1 82.2 80.9 92.7 3.7
9. AS??? ??? 100.0 10 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more difficult.

--
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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Subject: Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:38:41 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Adam W. - Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:38 UTC

Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

> What's the use of posting nocem messages if nobody can use them?

Here's the key downloaded from the link you provided:

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Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
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 by: Nigel Reed - Mon, 13 Nov 2023 06:52 UTC

On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:51:04 -0600
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more
> difficult.

No worries, I got to it via a different network on another server.
Thanks for the in depth debugging tho.

--
End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

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 by: D - Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:53 UTC

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:00:00 +0000, ? Good Guy ? <Hello.World@example.onion> wrote:
>We Stand

si "we" n'existait pas ils pourraient simplement les inventer

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Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
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 by: David Ritz - Mon, 13 Nov 2023 21:04 UTC

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On Monday, 13 November 2023 00:52 -0600,
in article <20231113005213.32ae48a6@wibble.sysadmininc.com>,
Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:51:04 -0600
> David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

>> It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more
>> difficult.

> No worries, I got to it via a different network on another server.
> Thanks for the in depth debugging tho.

Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.

$ dig @ns-181-c.gandi.net pasdenom.info | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A
pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35
^^^

$ nmap -p 25,80,119,443,563 pasdenom.info

Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2023-11-13 20:XX UTC
Nmap scan report for pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35)
Host is up (0.26s latency).
rDNS record for 82.66.60.35: usenet.pasdenom.info
PORT STATE SERVICE
25/tcp filtered smtp
80/tcp open http
119/tcp open nntp
443/tcp open https
563/tcp open snews

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.21 seconds

While pasdenom.info is configured to receive email (Mail eXchange),
they specify no IP address from which they are designated to send, ie.
no SPF record.

$ dig +short MX pasdenom.info
50 fb.mail.gandi.net.
10 spool.mail.gandi.net.

$ dig +short TXT pasdenom.info
"google-site-verification=ToBiCiESEmzVbbt0xzpJ-qRmHDlwBpytL2cgfDJMCU8"

- --
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
"There will be more spam." -- Paul Vixie

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 by: Jesse Rehmer - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 01:31 UTC

On Nov 13, 2023 at 3:04:56 PM CST, "David Ritz" <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

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> On Monday, 13 November 2023 00:52 -0600,
> in article <20231113005213.32ae48a6@wibble.sysadmininc.com>,
> Nigel Reed <sysop@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:51:04 -0600
>> David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>> It seems they are intentionally attempting to make things more
>>> difficult.
>
>> No worries, I got to it via a different network on another server.
>> Thanks for the in depth debugging tho.
>
> Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
> fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.
>
> $ dig @ns-181-c.gandi.net pasdenom.info | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A
> pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35
> ^^^
>
> $ nmap -p 25,80,119,443,563 pasdenom.info
>
> Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2023-11-13 20:XX UTC
> Nmap scan report for pasdenom.info (82.66.60.35)
> Host is up (0.26s latency).
> rDNS record for 82.66.60.35: usenet.pasdenom.info
> PORT STATE SERVICE
> 25/tcp filtered smtp
> 80/tcp open http
> 119/tcp open nntp
> 443/tcp open https
> 563/tcp open snews
>
> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.21 seconds
>
> While pasdenom.info is configured to receive email (Mail eXchange),
> they specify no IP address from which they are designated to send, ie.
> no SPF record.
>
> $ dig +short MX pasdenom.info
> 50 fb.mail.gandi.net.
> 10 spool.mail.gandi.net.
>
> $ dig +short TXT pasdenom.info
> "google-site-verification=ToBiCiESEmzVbbt0xzpJ-qRmHDlwBpytL2cgfDJMCU8"
>
> - --
> David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
> "There will be more spam." -- Paul Vixie
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AWS and other large Cloud providers would disagree as it is their default TTL.

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Subject: Re: Is the pasdenom.info news admin here?
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 11:45:05 +0100
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 by: yamo' - Tue, 14 Nov 2023 10:45 UTC

Hi,

Nigel Reed a tapoté le 11/11/2023 08:19:
> Posts in news.lists.filters direct us to
>
> https://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html

I have trouble with bots with news2web.pasdenom.info so I had to
configure fail2ban...

I may works now for you IP...

Could you try on the http version?

<http://pasdenom.info/nocem.en.html> or <http://pasdenom.info/nocem.html>

--
Stéphane

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 by: David Ritz - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 00:54 UTC

On Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:31 -0000,
in article <uiuil0$2abb$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>,
Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:

> On Nov 13, 2023 at 3:04:56 PM CST, "David Ritz" <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

[...]

>> Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
>> fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.

>> $ dig @ns-181-c.gandi.net pasdenom.info | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A
>> pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35

[...]

> AWS and other large Cloud providers would disagree as it is their
> default TTL.

DNS TTL is determined by the Name Server for the domain in question.
While AWS may provide DNS, with a default of five minute TTL, this is
far from being written in stone. For example, the dnspod.com servers
provide a default of 600 seconds (10 minutes) TTL, even when the
domain in question is hosted in the AWS cloud.

It's been a while, but I used to observe Fast Flux botnet controllers
using AWS load balancing, to be assigned a fresh IP address, every
sixty seconds, maximum. While short TTLs do not necessarily scream
bad actors, it may certainly be employed as a weighting factor.

--
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
"The Zen nature of a spammer resembles a cockroach,
except that the cockroach is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
- Peter Olson, Delphi Information Engineer; 27-AUG-1998

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 by: Jesse Rehmer - Wed, 15 Nov 2023 02:46 UTC

On Nov 14, 2023 at 6:54:38 PM CST, "David Ritz" <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, 14 November 2023 01:31 -0000,
> in article <uiuil0$2abb$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>,
> Jesse Rehmer <jesse.rehmer@blueworldhosting.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 13, 2023 at 3:04:56 PM CST, "David Ritz" <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> Some of their techniques, including a 300 second TTL for the domain,
>>> fall within the realm of what I refer to as stupid spammer tricks.
>
>>> $ dig @ns-181-c.gandi.net pasdenom.info | grep -E ^pasdenom.info.\*A
>>> pasdenom.info. 300 IN A 82.66.60.35
>
> [...]
>
>> AWS and other large Cloud providers would disagree as it is their
>> default TTL.
>
> DNS TTL is determined by the Name Server for the domain in question.
> While AWS may provide DNS, with a default of five minute TTL, this is
> far from being written in stone. For example, the dnspod.com servers
> provide a default of 600 seconds (10 minutes) TTL, even when the
> domain in question is hosted in the AWS cloud.
>
> It's been a while, but I used to observe Fast Flux botnet controllers
> using AWS load balancing, to be assigned a fresh IP address, every
> sixty seconds, maximum. While short TTLs do not necessarily scream
> bad actors, it may certainly be employed as a weighting factor.

Let me be more specific, AWS Route53 uses it as the default TTL.

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