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* Whither the Mill?Stephen Fuld
+- Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
+- Re: Whither the Mill?BGB
+* Re: Whither the Mill?George Neuner
|`* Re: Whither the Mill?BGB
| +* Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |+* Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| ||+* Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |||`* Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| ||| `* Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |||  +* Re: Whither the Mill?EricP
| |||  |`* Re: Whither the Mill?BGB-Alt
| |||  | +* Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |||  | |`- Re: Whither the Mill?BGB-Alt
| |||  | +- Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |||  | +- Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| |||  | `* Re: Whither the Mill?EricP
| |||  |  +* Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| |||  |  |+* Re: Whither the Mill?Paul A. Clayton
| |||  |  ||+- Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| |||  |  ||`* Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |||  |  || `* Re: Whither the Mill?Paul A. Clayton
| |||  |  ||  +* Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |||  |  ||  |`* Re: Whither the Mill?Paul A. Clayton
| |||  |  ||  | `* Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| |||  |  ||  |  `* Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |||  |  ||  |   `* Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| |||  |  ||  |    `- Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |||  |  ||  `- Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| |||  |  |`- Re: Whither the Mill?EricP
| |||  |  `- Re: Whither the Mill?BGB
| |||  `* Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| |||   `* Re: Whither the Mill?MitchAlsup
| |||    `- Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| ||`* Re: Whither the Mill?Niklas Holsti
| || +* Re: Whither the Mill?Anton Ertl
| || |`- Re: Whither the Mill?Thomas Koenig
| || +- Re: Whither the Mill?Scott Lurndal
| || `* Re: Whither the Mill?moi
| ||  `* Re: Whither the Mill?BGB
| ||   `* Re: Whither the Mill?Thomas Koenig
| ||    +- Re: Whither the Mill?BGB
| ||    +- Re: fast compiling, Whither the Mill?John Levine
| ||    `* Re: Whither the Mill?Terje Mathisen
| ||     `- Re: Whither the Mill?BGB
| |`- Re: Whither the Mill?BGB-Alt
| +- Re: Whither the Mill?EricP
| `* Re: Whither the Mill?Andreas Eder
|  +- Re: Whither the Mill?Chris M. Thomasson
|  `- Re: Whither the Mill?BGB
`- Re: Whither the Mill?Quadibloc

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Re: Whither the Mill?

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From: mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup)
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Subject: Re: Whither the Mill?
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 21:07:50 +0000
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 by: MitchAlsup - Wed, 3 Jan 2024 21:07 UTC

Scott Lurndal wrote:

> mitchalsup@aol.com (MitchAlsup) writes:
>>Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>> If the HV is allowing direct access to the device, and allowing
>>> the device to use physical addresses via cached translations,
>>> then the device must support both PCIe ATS and PRI. The former
>>
>>Or have a HostBridge that provides translation services to
>>virtualized devices....

> All of the major operating systems fully support PCIe ATS and PRI
> standards.

But there are existing devices which do not.

> Leveraging that makes your processor viable, using a custom host
> bridge doesn't.

For devices that do not support, MY 66000 I/O MMU alleviates the
difference.

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