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* I just played Ultima 7....my opinions on why game consoles are SOTrimble Bracegirdle
`* I just played Ultima 7....my opinions on why game consoles are SO much better...Mike S.
 `* I just played Ultima 7....my opinions on why game consoles are SO much better...Spalls Hurgenson
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 by: Trimble Bracegirdle - Wed, 4 May 2022 16:31 UTC

On Monday, 18 April 2022 at 00:17:30 UTC+1, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 10:41:45 -0700 (PDT), Jay Roi
> <jeremy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, June 18, 1996 at 4:00:00 PM UTC+9, Ranzer L. Averon wrote:
> >Wow I can't believe a retard like this guy posted this stupid shit way back when
> >I was 5 years old. I was smarter than this idiot even then hahaha
> And yet, it was /you/ who revived a 26-year old thread* ;-)
>
> But, of course, out of curiosity, I had to go back and read what the
> original poster wrote.** It's an... intriguing diatribe; a long and
> meandering post without too-few paragraph breaks that indicate a lack
> of concern about the readability of his writings.
>
> First impressions suggest it's a trollish shit-post, but I think the
> author was being earnest, if impolite and unable to distinguish that
> just because he didn't like a game didn't meant it wasn't any good.
> His assumptions that Ultima VII was awful because it isn't linear, or
> emphasis character and world interaction over combat were matters of
> personal taste. I mean, he does make some valid criticisms of the
> game; for all that I love Ultima VII, it's combat was the weakest part
> of the game, and its constant insistence that you nanny your followers
> quickly became tiresome. But its other strengths - while not focused
> on the sort of gameplay he preferred - are what made the game so
> memorable to so many others..
>
> Actually, what I disliked most about his post was that it failed to
> address how Ultima VII proved console superiority (as per his post's
> subject line). That he disliked the game was clear, but that was a
> subjective opinion. Nowhere did he provide convincing evidence that
> console RPGs were better on any objective way.
>

I'm currently playing ULTIMA VII in DOSBOX
There don't seem to be any working remakes and this DOSBOX is very jerky
I notice this "in the style of"
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 by: Mike S. - Wed, 4 May 2022 18:05 UTC

On Wed, 4 May 2022 09:31:00 -0700 (PDT), Trimble Bracegirdle
<wimbatstrim@gmail.com> wrote:

>I'm currently playing ULTIMA VII in DOSBOX
>There don't seem to be any working remakes and this DOSBOX is very jerky

Google 'Ultima 7 Exult'.

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From: spallshurgenson@gmail.com (Spalls Hurgenson)
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Subject: Re: I just played Ultima 7....my opinions on why game consoles are SO much better....
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 by: Spalls Hurgenson - Thu, 5 May 2022 03:42 UTC

On Wed, 04 May 2022 14:05:10 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 4 May 2022 09:31:00 -0700 (PDT), Trimble Bracegirdle
><wimbatstrim@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I'm currently playing ULTIMA VII in DOSBOX
>>There don't seem to be any working remakes and this DOSBOX is very jerky
>
>Google 'Ultima 7 Exult'.

Exult was a miracle in code when it was first released. "Ultima 7"s
unique memory handling routines were a headache even during the DOS
days, but with the rise of Windows95 and XP, it literally was a
showstopper; thanks to the Voodoo memory manager, the game wouldn't
even start*. Exult fixed that, and made the game playable again. Even
knowing how it worked, it still seemed like magic; a C++ resurrection.

These days, with DOSBox being a perfectly viable option, Exult is no
longer quite as necessary (the only stuttering I get playing it on
DOSBox are stilted animations that were naturally part of the game),
and there's something to be said about playing the game from DOS.
Still, Exult has one really awesome feature that rarely gets
mentioned:

You can change the fucking font.

I love Ultima 7; I really do. And I've played the game at least a
dozen times. But, oh my god, the font the game shipped with -
especially when played at 320x200 resolution - was horrid; it
literally was became painful to play because of the necessary
eyestrain.

Exult fixed that. Maybe its not as earth-shaking a change as the
getting it to run under Win32s, but it made a huge difference
nonetheless.

---------------
* Yes, technically with Windows95 and 98 you could still drop to DOS,
but that wasn't considered a reasonable option for the majority of
gamers

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 by: Mike S. - Thu, 5 May 2022 13:16 UTC

On Wed, 04 May 2022 23:42:47 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>You can change the fucking font.

Seriously, I very recently watched someone who was playing this game
on Youtube and he was having trouble reading the text. So yeah
Trimble, Spalls is not kidding. The default font can be a nightmare to
deal with.

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