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* Nicklaus WirthStephen Fuld
`* Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesJohn Levine
 +- Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesMitchAlsup1
 +* Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesAnton Ertl
 |`* Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesMichael S
 | +- Re: Niklaus Wirth obituariesLawrence D'Oliveiro
 | `- Re: Niklaus Wirth obituariesAndy Valencia
 +* Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesStephen Fuld
 |+* Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesMichael S
 ||`- Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesStephen Fuld
 |`* Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesJohn Levine
 | `- Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesStephen Fuld
 `- Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituariesGeorge Musk

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 by: Stephen Fuld - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 18:45 UTC

https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/niklaus-wirth-computer-programmers-dies-at-89-6817b134

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 by: John Levine - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:08 UTC

According to Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>:
>https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/niklaus-wirth-computer-programmers-dies-at-89-6817b134

Here's a few that aren't paywalled. He died on 1 January but for some reason most of the obits
were just published in the last few days.

https://hackaday.com/2024/01/05/remembering-niklaus-wirth-father-of-pascal-and-inspiration-to-many/

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/technology/niklaus-wirth-dead.html

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 by: MitchAlsup1 - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:30 UTC

One of the few who deserves a salute to his work.

Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituaries

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 by: Anton Ertl - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:41 UTC

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes:
>He died on 1 January

I met him for the second time in January 2020, at an event celebrating
the 100th birthday of Heiz Zemanek (an Austrian computer pioneer who
died in 2014). Interestingly, Heinz Zemanek was born on 1
January, so Wirth died on Zemanek's 104th birthday.

So he died on the 104th birthday of Heinz Zemanek.

>https://hackaday.com/2024/01/05/remembering-niklaus-wirth-father-of-pascal-and-inspiration-to-many/

This is a very good one.

- anton
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 by: Michael S - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 21:26 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 20:41:10 GMT
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) wrote:

> John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes:
> >He died on 1 January
>
> I met him for the second time in January 2020, at an event celebrating
> the 100th birthday of Heiz Zemanek (an Austrian computer pioneer who
> died in 2014). Interestingly, Heinz Zemanek was born on 1
> January, so Wirth died on Zemanek's 104th birthday.
>
> So he died on the 104th birthday of Heinz Zemanek.
>
> >https://hackaday.com/2024/01/05/remembering-niklaus-wirth-father-of-pascal-and-inspiration-to-many/
> >
>
> This is a very good one.
>
> - anton

Yes, a good one, but IMHO misses a key point: Nicklaus Wirth was first
and foremost a good writer.
It's a pity that he wrote so few books and instead spent 6th and 7th
decades of his life, the age most suited for books writing, on
something else.

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 by: Lawrence D'Oliv - Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:00 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 23:26:20 +0200, Michael S wrote:

> [Niklaus] Wirth was first and foremost a good writer.

Maybe not in English. Remember that the Pascal spec was credited to
“Jensen & Wirth”, and I suspect Jensen was credited first because she did
a lot to keep it readable. I read something an article in English by
Wirth, once, and he came across as someone not completely fluent in it.

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 by: Stephen Fuld - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 06:35 UTC

On 2/24/2024 11:08 AM, John Levine wrote:
> According to Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>:
>> https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/niklaus-wirth-computer-programmers-dies-at-89-6817b134
>
> Here's a few that aren't paywalled.

I apologize for that. The story came up on my Apple News feed, and
apparently, even though I don't have a subscription to the Wall Street
Journal, if I access it through the Apple news link, it bypasses the
paywall.

Just to satisfy my curiosity, here is the actual Apple News link.

https://apple.news/AJGmPl3VwSOuLTqIp70oaYA

Will someone else, please try it and let me know if it allows access or not?

Thanks.

--
- Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

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 by: Michael S - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 10:44 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:35:53 -0800
Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> wrote:

> On 2/24/2024 11:08 AM, John Levine wrote:
> > According to Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>:
> >> https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/niklaus-wirth-computer-programmers-dies-at-89-6817b134
> >>
> >
> > Here's a few that aren't paywalled.
>
> I apologize for that. The story came up on my Apple News feed, and
> apparently, even though I don't have a subscription to the Wall
> Street Journal, if I access it through the Apple news link, it
> bypasses the paywall.
>
> Just to satisfy my curiosity, here is the actual Apple News link.
>
> https://apple.news/AJGmPl3VwSOuLTqIp70oaYA
>
> Will someone else, please try it and let me know if it allows access
> or not?
>
> Thanks.
>
>

Yes, I can read it.
I don't know if it is related to Apple News link or to the fact that it
is the first WSJ article I am attempting to read this week and only 2nd
or 3rd that I am trying to read this month.

BTW, I think that the article is good.

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 by: George Musk - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 11:05 UTC

On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 19:08:09 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:

> According to Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>:
>>https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/niklaus-wirth-computer-
programmers-dies-at-89-6817b134
>
> Here's a few that aren't paywalled. He died on 1 January but for some
> reason most of the obits were just published in the last few days.
>
> https://hackaday.com/2024/01/05/remembering-niklaus-wirth-father-of-
pascal-and-inspiration-to-many/
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/technology/niklaus-wirth-dead.html

Also
https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/04/niklaus_wirth_obituary/

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 by: Stephen Fuld - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 16:09 UTC

On 2/25/2024 2:44 AM, Michael S wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2024 22:35:53 -0800
> Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2/24/2024 11:08 AM, John Levine wrote:
>>> According to Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>:
>>>> https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/niklaus-wirth-computer-programmers-dies-at-89-6817b134
>>>>
>>>
>>> Here's a few that aren't paywalled.
>>
>> I apologize for that. The story came up on my Apple News feed, and
>> apparently, even though I don't have a subscription to the Wall
>> Street Journal, if I access it through the Apple news link, it
>> bypasses the paywall.
>>
>> Just to satisfy my curiosity, here is the actual Apple News link.
>>
>> https://apple.news/AJGmPl3VwSOuLTqIp70oaYA
>>
>> Will someone else, please try it and let me know if it allows access
>> or not?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, I can read it.
> I don't know if it is related to Apple News link or to the fact that it
> is the first WSJ article I am attempting to read this week and only 2nd
> or 3rd that I am trying to read this month.
>
> BTW, I think that the article is good.

Thank you Michael. And I agree with your assessment of the article.

--
- Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

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 by: John Levine - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 19:20 UTC

According to Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>:
>Just to satisfy my curiosity, here is the actual Apple News link.
>
>https://apple.news/AJGmPl3VwSOuLTqIp70oaYA
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>Will someone else, please try it and let me know if it allows access or not?

I get a page that offers to unlock the article with a trial Apple News
subscription.

The WSJ is quite thoroughly paywalled, very few free articles.

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Re: Nicklaus Wirth obituaries

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 by: Stephen Fuld - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 22:14 UTC

On 2/25/2024 11:20 AM, John Levine wrote:
> According to Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>:
>> Just to satisfy my curiosity, here is the actual Apple News link.
>>
>> https://apple.news/AJGmPl3VwSOuLTqIp70oaYA
>>
>> Will someone else, please try it and let me know if it allows access or not?
>
> I get a page that offers to unlock the article with a trial Apple News
> subscription.
>
> The WSJ is quite thoroughly paywalled, very few free articles.

I guess that Apple has some kind of deal with WSJ. Fine, but the
interesting part is that I read the article on my iPad (reasonable),
then e-mailed it (using inbuilt iPad mail, to myself. I then opened the
e-mail on my Windows desktop PC, from where I pasted the URL into the
posting. When I clicked the link on my PC, it brought up the full
article. So Apple knew that, despite it being a PC, that it was somehow
the Apple News subscription from my iPad and bypassed the paywall and
the ad for Apple News.

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- Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

Re: Niklaus Wirth obituaries

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 by: Andy Valencia - Sun, 3 Mar 2024 14:43 UTC

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
> Maybe not in English. Remember that the Pascal spec was credited to
> "Jensen & Wirth", and I suspect Jensen was credited first because she did
> a lot to keep it readable.

Whatever happened to Ms. Jensen? I can't find any work from her aside from
the famous report on Pascal. There were rumors at my old university (UC
Santa Cruz) that she'd been a student there once.

Andy Valencia
Home page: https://www.vsta.org/andy/
To contact me: https://www.vsta.org/contact/andy.html

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