Just let my machine reboot for updates, only to see a Copilot icon in
the taskbar, to its credit when I asked it why it was there, it knew it
shouldn't have been ...

<http://andyburns.uk/misc/copilot-install.png>

On 12/25/2023 7:37 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Just let my machine reboot for updates, only to see a Copilot icon in the taskbar, to its credit when I asked it why it was there, it knew it shouldn't have been ...
>
> <http://andyburns.uk/misc/copilot-install.png>

"Prepare a list of the tasks that you are capable of performing."

<it starts making a list, which scrolls off the screen...>
<Then it erases the screen and comes back>

"Sorry, I can't give a response to that right now."

Even though it was giving a response, it removed the
partial answer.

*******

"add together the numbers 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 and give me the sum"

"The sum of the numbers 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, and 128 is n=0∑7​2n=255 "

The jazz on the end, was a suitably formatted math symbol -- it
recognized it was 2^n series, and it summed from 0 to 7 for 2^n,
which is more than just adding numbers. Presumably my question
"fit a pattern" a little too well.

I suppose if I used a random number generator and asked it to add
that up, it would become all pissy-eyed. Because the question would
not have enough fun for the AI.

The message length limit is 500 characters, and you can break it up.

"For example, split 1/2 This is the first part of my message. followed by
split 2/2 This is the second part of my message.
"

That might not be enough space, to get it to do my taxes.

Paul

On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 12:37:59 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>Just let my machine reboot for updates, only to see a Copilot icon in
>the taskbar, to its credit when I asked it why it was there, it knew it
>shouldn't have been ...
>
><http://andyburns.uk/misc/copilot-install.png>

Dumped it within minutes after it arrived.
Don't need more MS crap.

KenW

Paul wrote:
> On 12/25/2023 7:37 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Just let my machine reboot for updates, only to see a Copilot icon in the taskbar, to its credit when I asked it why it was there, it knew it shouldn't have been ...
>>
>> <http://andyburns.uk/misc/copilot-install.png>
>
> "Prepare a list of the tasks that you are capable of performing."
>
> <it starts making a list, which scrolls off the screen...>
> <Then it erases the screen and comes back>
>
> "Sorry, I can't give a response to that right now."
>
> Even though it was giving a response, it removed the
> partial answer.
>
> *******
>
> "add together the numbers 1 2 4 8 16 32 64 128 and give me the sum"
>
> "The sum of the numbers 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, and 128 is n=0∑7​2n=255"
>
>
I've always been more impressed by the Fibonacci series. It belongs both
to pure maths and is regularly found in nature's real evolutionary patterns.
Forget prime numbers; they're a mere tease.
Pythagoras and Plato would have jumped in their graves when it was first
announced.
0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144 ......
Ed

On 26/12/2023 12:17 am, KenW wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 12:37:59 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Just let my machine reboot for updates, only to see a Copilot icon in
>> the taskbar, to its credit when I asked it why it was there, it knew it
>> shouldn't have been ...
>>
>> <http://andyburns.uk/misc/copilot-install.png>
>
> Dumped it within minutes after it arrived.
> Don't need more MS crap.
>
>
> KenW

Can anyone tell me how to disable ( or uninstall ) Copilot in Win 11
23H2. I have both home and Pro versions, and I am running local accounts
on all computers. A Registry entry would be ideal if this is possible.

Maurice Helwig

On 12/25/2023 3:32 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
> On 26/12/2023 12:17 am, KenW wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 12:37:59 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just let my machine reboot for updates, only to see a Copilot icon in
>>> the taskbar, to its credit when I asked it why it was there, it knew it
>>> shouldn't have been ...
>>>
>>> <http://andyburns.uk/misc/copilot-install.png>
>>
>> Dumped it within minutes after it arrived.
>> Don't need more MS crap.
>>
>>
>> KenW
>
> Can anyone tell me how to disable ( or uninstall ) Copilot in Win 11
> 23H2. I have both home and Pro versions, and I am running local accounts
> on all computers. A Registry entry would be ideal if this is possible.
>
> Maurice Helwig

Google: <disable/remove Copilot>
<https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/techook/dont-like-the-new-windows-11-copilot-ai-shortcut-heres-how-to-get-rid-of-it-8975025/>

On Tue, 26 Dec 2023 06:32:32 +1000, Maurice Helwig
<mbhelwig@aussiebroadband.com.au> wrote:

>On 26/12/2023 12:17 am, KenW wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 12:37:59 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just let my machine reboot for updates, only to see a Copilot icon in
>>> the taskbar, to its credit when I asked it why it was there, it knew it
>>> shouldn't have been ...
>>>
>>> <http://andyburns.uk/misc/copilot-install.png>
>>
>> Dumped it within minutes after it arrived.
>> Don't need more MS crap.
>>
>>
>> KenW
>
>Can anyone tell me how to disable ( or uninstall ) Copilot in Win 11
>23H2. I have both home and Pro versions, and I am running local accounts
>on all computers. A Registry entry would be ideal if this is possible.
>
>Maurice Helwig
Taskbar settings is what I used

KenW

On 12/25/2023 3:32 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
> On 26/12/2023 12:17 am, KenW wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 12:37:59 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just let my machine reboot for updates, only to see a Copilot icon in
>>> the taskbar, to its credit when I asked it why it was there, it knew it
>>> shouldn't have been ...
>>>
>>> <http://andyburns.uk/misc/copilot-install.png>
>>
>> Dumped it within minutes after it arrived.
>> Don't need more MS crap.
>>
>>
>> KenW
>
> Can anyone tell me how to disable ( or uninstall ) Copilot in Win 11 23H2. I have both home and Pro versions, and I am running local accounts on all computers. A Registry entry would be ideal if this is possible.
>
> Maurice Helwig

It is formerly named Bing Chat. which may account for it being
hard to find, otherwise. This for example, I caught this on the
machine, in a Temp directory. But there's no sign of a copy of it.
Can't track what update package, delivered this executable. I did not
keep a copy (thought it was malware).

BingChatInstaller.exe

<Reddit> So... Windows Copilot is just Microsoft Edge running the Bing chat

Settings> Sidebar> App and notification settings/ Bing Chat and toggle off "Show Bing Chat".

edgeservices.bing.com

*******

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/15snzPrp/Co-Pilot-MSEdge-Bing-Chat-Control.gif

I don't know if that removed the TaskBar icon. For that, we have
this option, which you could do first. Then go check the MSEdge situation.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/s2qKF1SP/copilot-personalize-taskbar.gif

( Idea from https://www.digitalcitizen.life/add-remove-icons-taskbar-windows-11/ )

Paul

On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 19:18:17 +0000, Ed Cryer wrote:
>
> I've always been more impressed by the Fibonacci series. It belongs both
> to pure maths and is regularly found in nature's real evolutionary patterns.
> Forget prime numbers; they're a mere tease.
> Pythagoras and Plato would have jumped in their graves when it was first
> announced.
>
> 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144 ......

And then there's the On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences:
<https://oeis.org/>

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> wrote:

> On 12/25/2023 3:32 PM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
>> On 26/12/2023 12:17 am, KenW wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 12:37:59 +0000, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just let my machine reboot for updates, only to see a Copilot icon in
>>>> the taskbar, to its credit when I asked it why it was there, it knew it
>>>> shouldn't have been ...
>>>>
>>>> <http://andyburns.uk/misc/copilot-install.png>
>>>
>>> Dumped it within minutes after it arrived.
>>> Don't need more MS crap.
>>>
>>>
>>> KenW
>>
>> Can anyone tell me how to disable ( or uninstall ) Copilot in Win 11
>> 23H2. I have both home and Pro versions, and I am running local accounts
>> on all computers. A Registry entry would be ideal if this is possible.
>>
>> Maurice Helwig
>
> Google: <disable/remove Copilot>
> <https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/techook/dont-like-the-new-windows-11-copilot-ai-shortcut-heres-how-to-get-rid-of-it-8975025/>

Alas, the gist of the "premium" article is kept secret unless you
register using Google account, Facebook, or an e-mail address; i.e., you
have to login to read the full article.

https://www.minitool.com/news/how-to-uninstall-copilot.html

To me, that article is about disabling or hiding Copilot, not about
removing it. Most articles that I found online are about disabling
Copilot, so the user doesn't see it anymore. That's not removing it.
Could be Copilot relies on system components that should not be removed.

This is like "removing" IE from Windows which merely hides it. Its libs
still exist since they may be used by other programs, like HTAs (HTML
Applications). Not seeing it isn't the same as it does not exist.

It's like a tot sitting on your lap covering their eyes with their hands
saying "You can't see me". Uh huh. The tot is still there on your lap.

From other online reading, Copilot is not an app (UWP) or program
(Win32), but a subset of Edge pointing to the [Chat]GPT search engine
via Bing. Made it easy to add access to Copilot from Edge-C. On some
Windows versions, it can be started via:

%windir%\explorer.exe "microsoft-edge:///?ux=copilot&tcp=1&source=taskbar"

You're loading Windows Explorer (both a file manager and desktop GUI
manager) to point at a microsoft-edge:// schemed URL. Edge-C and
Copilot are dependent.

I doubt you want to remove Edge-C (Chromium variant of Edge aka new
Edge) even if you don't use it (I use Firefox as my primary web browser,
and Edge as a backup since Chrome is no longer needed with Edge-C, and
Edge-C is more secure than Chrome).

Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

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On 25/12/2023 20:32, Maurice Helwig wrote:
>
> Can anyone tell me how to disable ( or uninstall ) Copilot in Win 11
> 23H2. I have both home and Pro versions, and I am running local
> accounts on all computers. A Registry entry would be ideal if this is
> possible.
>
> Maurice Helwig
Why not ask CoPilot this question? I just did it for you and got this
answer:

"I understand that you would like to uninstall Copilot from your system.
According to a Microsoft Community post, Copilot is a built-in feature
of Windows 11 and cannot be uninstalled like a regular app. However, you
can disable it through Taskbar settings. If you want to ensure it�s
completely disabled and not just accessible through Taskbar settings,
you�ll need to use the Group Policy Editor. This method is available for
Windows 11 Pro, Enterprise, or Education editions. Navigate to User
Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows
Copilot in the Group Policy Editor. Then, double-click on �Turn off
Windows Copilot� and select �Enabled� to remove Copilot entirely. I hope
this helps!"

It's not a good idea to remove it because it can answer most questions
for you like the one you just asked.

Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year.