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* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Mark Lawler
`* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Steven Hirsch
 `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Grant Taylor
  +* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...mrgcm...@gmail.com
  |`- How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...dxforth
  `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Chris Syntichakis
   +* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Mark Lawler
   |`* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...John Galt
   | `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Randy McLaughlin
   |  `- How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...John Galt
   `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Grant Taylor
    `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Alan Laughton
     `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Grant Taylor
      `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...emils...@gmail.com
       `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Randy McLaughlin
        `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...emils...@gmail.com
         `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...jon_br...@icloud.com
          `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...dxforth
           `* How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...Randy McLaughlin
            `- How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...dxforth

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 by: Mark Lawler - Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:43 UTC

....for them to be blocked from posting to this group? So tired of posts trying to sell medical books/journals.

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 by: Steven Hirsch - Wed, 20 Jul 2022 22:09 UTC

On 7/20/22 12:43, Mark Lawler wrote:
> ...for them to be blocked from posting to this group? So tired of posts
> trying to sell medical books/journals.

This is a public Usenet newsgroup, not a web forum or moderated group. Not
much can be done beyond tracking down the originating ISP and complaining
directly to them.

If you are reading this through a web gateway of some sort there's no point in
complaining to that entity as they have no control over matters.

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From: gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
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 by: Grant Taylor - Wed, 20 Jul 2022 23:10 UTC

On 7/20/22 4:09 PM, Steven Hirsch wrote:
> This is a public Usenet newsgroup, not a web forum or moderated group.
> Not much can be done beyond tracking down the originating ISP and
> complaining directly to them.

Responsible news masters / administrators of the posting host will care
about their user(s) doing undesirable things. Some news masters are
better than others. Some, you might as well spit into the wind.

> If you are reading this through a web gateway of some sort there's
> no point in complaining to that entity as they have no control over
> matters.

One of the most prominent Usenet web UI providers is notorious for
spewing spam and /could/ do more about their users if they wanted to.
Well at least on the account level, independent of account churn.

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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 by: mrgcm...@gmail.com - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 03:37 UTC

On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 6:10:54 PM UTC-5, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 7/20/22 4:09 PM, Steven Hirsch wrote:
> > This is a public Usenet newsgroup, not a web forum or moderated group.
> > Not much can be done beyond tracking down the originating ISP and
> > complaining directly to them.
> Responsible news masters / administrators of the posting host will care
> about their user(s) doing undesirable things. Some news masters are
> better than others. Some, you might as well spit into the wind.
> > If you are reading this through a web gateway of some sort there's
> > no point in complaining to that entity as they have no control over
> > matters.
> One of the most prominent Usenet web UI providers is notorious for
> spewing spam and /could/ do more about their users if they wanted to.
> Well at least on the account level, independent of account churn.
>
>
>
> --
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die
I've reported Mr Holt dozens of times -has no effect. I've given up now.

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 by: dxforth - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 04:18 UTC

On 21/07/2022 13:37, mrgcm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I've reported Mr Holt dozens of times -has no effect. I've given up now.

To Google? The website the spammer promotes is well represented on the
Lumen database for DMCA complaints. Google is only going to care when
it's a publisher doing the reporting.

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 by: Chris Syntichakis - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 07:02 UTC

Guys the only way to stop that crap on this group is to enforce moderation , at least moderate posts of new members -so easy to ID the crap ,not that difficult (I am one of the mods of the µIEC group)

cheers

chris

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 by: Mark Lawler - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 15:30 UTC

On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 12:02:34 AM UTC-7, csyn...@gmail.com wrote:
> Guys the only way to stop that crap on this group is to enforce moderation , at least moderate posts of new members -so easy to ID the crap ,not that difficult (I am one of the mods of the µIEC group)
>
> cheers
>
> chris

Yes! Thanks Chris. So who are the moderators for this group? If we don't have moderators who are active in this group, how do we change that to add additional moderators who are active members of this group?

Thanks,
-Mark

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 by: John Galt - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 15:40 UTC

you would have to contact the content moderator that created the group then if they changed the members settings you would see a "members" tab on the left side of the screen where conversations are.
from there you could click a member and ban them.

other google groups have this setting enabled allowing for members to boot spam posting. there are a bunch of greyed out icons which the content manager has locked in this group as they wanted it to be a completely open conversation area however once the spammers come in you can't get rid of them without some locking down of the conversations by the moderator.

its frustrating and kills these groups off.

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Subject: Re: How many times does one have to report a poster for SPAM...
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 by: Randy McLaughlin - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 15:48 UTC

On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 8:40:36 AM UTC-7, John Galt wrote:
> you would have to contact the content moderator that created the group then if they changed the members settings you would see a "members" tab on the left side of the screen where conversations are.
> from there you could click a member and ban them.
>
> other google groups have this setting enabled allowing for members to boot spam posting. there are a bunch of greyed out icons which the content manager has locked in this group as they wanted it to be a completely open conversation area however once the spammers come in you can't get rid of them without some locking down of the conversations by the moderator.
>
> its frustrating and kills these groups off.
This is an early usenet group pre-dating google groups.

I doubt there ever was a moderator, I wouldn't be surprised if a google employee just mapped this and many other usenet groups in.

Randy

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 by: John Galt - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 18:45 UTC

could always create a new group and migrate...

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 by: Grant Taylor - Thu, 21 Jul 2022 22:52 UTC

On 7/21/22 1:02 AM, Chris Syntichakis wrote:
> Guys the only way to stop that crap on this group is to enforce
> moderation

This is the comp.os.cpm newsgroup on Usenet with a Google Groups
interface thereto. This is NOT a normal Google Group.

Moderation is not /really/ a thing on Usenet. Sure, there is something
that calls itself moderation, but it's easy to circumvent.

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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 by: Alan Laughton - Fri, 22 Jul 2022 00:16 UTC

On 22/07/2022 8:52 am, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 7/21/22 1:02 AM, Chris Syntichakis wrote:
>> Guys the only way to stop that crap on this group is to enforce
>> moderation
>
> This is the comp.os.cpm newsgroup on Usenet with a Google Groups
> interface thereto.  This is NOT a normal Google Group.
>
> Moderation is not /really/ a thing on Usenet.  Sure, there is something
> that calls itself moderation, but it's easy to circumvent.
>
>
>
As Grant said, this is the comp.os.cpm newsgroup on Usenet and not
controlled by anyone including Google. I pick up this newsgroup via
nntp.aioe.org using Thunderbird and when this crap/scam post appear I'm
fortunate that my keyboard has a DELETE key, I just tap that, gone.

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 by: Grant Taylor - Fri, 22 Jul 2022 01:13 UTC

On 7/21/22 6:16 PM, Alan Laughton wrote:
> As Grant said, this is the comp.os.cpm newsgroup on Usenet and not
> controlled by anyone including Google.  I pick up this newsgroup via
> nntp.aioe.org using Thunderbird and when this crap/scam post appear I'm
> fortunate that my keyboard has a DELETE key, I just tap that, gone.

I pick up this newsgroup on my personal archive server, where I have
filters in place to block a lot of the articles.

I actively try to filter a lot of crap from my personal archive server.

N.B. I have no such filters on my personal transit server that peers
with 30 other Usenet servers.

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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 by: emils...@gmail.com - Sat, 23 Jul 2022 01:34 UTC

This bellend's email is pubicly displayed so, if there's nothing we can do to stop him, we can at least return the favour by all spamming his email account. Think of the fun to be had!

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 by: Randy McLaughlin - Sat, 23 Jul 2022 02:12 UTC

On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 8:34:11 PM UTC-5, emils...@gmail.com wrote:
> This bellend's email is pubicly displayed so, if there's nothing we can do to stop him, we can at least return the favour by all spamming his email account. Think of the fun to be had!

Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.

For me it's not so bad. I intend to ignore it until it drives me to contacting his ISP.

Randy

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 by: emils...@gmail.com - Sat, 23 Jul 2022 02:32 UTC

On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:

> Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.

Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)

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 by: jon_br...@icloud.com - Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:52 UTC

On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:32:24 AM UTC+1, emils...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:
>
> > Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.
> Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)

He is probably not a real person, so this isn't going to help.

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 by: dxforth - Thu, 1 Sep 2022 01:52 UTC

On 1/09/2022 12:52 am, jon_br...@icloud.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:32:24 AM UTC+1, emils...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:
>>
>>> Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.
>> Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)
>
> He is probably not a real person, so this isn't going to help.

It's possible there's nobody to read the inbox but one can live in
hope. For sure whoever is behind it is living in hope of making
easy money. That too, is also doubtful.

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 by: Randy McLaughlin - Thu, 1 Sep 2022 16:57 UTC

On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:52:43 PM UTC-5, dxforth wrote:
> On 1/09/2022 12:52 am, jon_br...@icloud.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:32:24 AM UTC+1, emils...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.
> >> Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)
> >
> > He is probably not a real person, so this isn't going to help.
>
> It's possible there's nobody to read the inbox but one can live in
> hope. For sure whoever is behind it is living iin hope of making
> easy money. That too, is also doubtful.

This is a usenet group passing through Google groups. It hugely predates Google groups. There is no moderation and no one is in charge.

Complain all you want no one can stop you just as no one can stop anyone.

Randy

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 by: dxforth - Fri, 2 Sep 2022 06:10 UTC

On 2/09/2022 2:57 am, Randy McLaughlin wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 8:52:43 PM UTC-5, dxforth wrote:
>> On 1/09/2022 12:52 am, jon_br...@icloud.com wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 3:32:24 AM UTC+1, emils...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 23 July 2022 at 12:12:27 UTC+10, Randy McLaughlin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes he is wrong to spam so let's spam back.
>>>> Yeah, I know, I'm childish. ;-)
>>>
>>> He is probably not a real person, so this isn't going to help.
>>
>> It's possible there's nobody to read the inbox but one can live in
>> hope. For sure whoever is behind it is living iin hope of making
>> easy money. That too, is also doubtful.
>
>
> This is a usenet group passing through Google groups. It hugely predates Google groups. There is no moderation and no one is in charge.
>
> Complain all you want no one can stop you just as no one can stop anyone.

Your post suggests otherwise.

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